I think the difference is that Superman is supposed to not be the person he was in Man of Steel, while Batman has always been a fasho.
Also Nolan has more street cred than Snyder.
Well, I'd say that Batman's sufficiently malleable that you could get away with making him fascist.
You can see some elements of it in his 'let's have contingencies for every member of the Justice League' thing, but it's hardly an element in every incarnation of Batman.
Yeah, I would agree, although Odradek's point does hold some water: Batman has always been the kind of hero willing to compromise himself as a moral actor in favour of a greater good in really bad no-win situations, while Superman is the sort of hero who will not compromise on his morals because he understands that his power obligates him to set a moral example. The former is not at heart a "fascist," but he is a very dark shade of hero; the latter is much more idealistic, but he can afford to be and would be to some degree even if he could not because that is who he is. Batman sees himself as a necessary evil in a society that should not need him, a human weapon; Superman sees himself as a protector sworn to a moral good higher than himself, a human shield. Or so I have gleaned.
epIn the national forests trespass growths, old tires are often used to surround young marijuana plants. These tires are just left to decompose and contaminate groundwater supplies.
Many of the bigger marijuana trespass plantations in national parks and forests have support from certain Mexican drug cartels.
When they said "Some day you may lose them all;" He replied "Fish, fiddle-de-dee!" And his Aunt Jobiska made him drink Lavender water tinged with pink, For she said "The World in general knows There's nothing so good for a Pobble's toes!"
The Pobble who has no toes Swam across the Bristol Channel; But before he set out he wrapped his nose In a piece of scarlet flannel. For his Aunt Jobiska said "No harm Can come to his toes if his nose is warm; And it's perfectly known that a Pobble's toes Are safe, -- provided he minds his nose!"
The Pobble swam fast and well, And when boats or ships came near him, He tinkledy-blinkledy-winkled a bell, So that all the world could hear him. And all the Sailors and Admirals cried, When they saw him nearing the further side - "He has gone to fish for his Aunt Jobiska's Runcible Cat with crimson whiskers!"
But before he touched the shore, The shore of the Bristol Channel, A sea-green porpoise carried away His wrapper of scarlet flannel. And when he came to observe his feet, Formerly garnished with toes so neat, His face at once became forlorn, On perceiving that all his toes were gone!
And nobody ever knew, From that dark day to the present, Whoso had taken the Pobble's toes, In a manner so far from pleasant. Whether the shrimps, or crawfish grey, Or crafty Mermaids stole them away - Nobody knew: and nobody knows How the Pobble was robbed of his twice five toes!
The Pobble who has no toes Was placed in a friendly Bark, And they rowed him back, and carried him up To his Aunt Jobiska's Park. And she made him a feast at his earnest wish Of eggs and buttercups fried with fish, - And she said "It's a fact the whole world knows, That Pobbles are happier without their toes!"
I think the difference is that Superman is supposed to not be the person he was in Man of Steel, while Batman has always been a fasho.
Also Nolan has more street cred than Snyder.
Well, I'd say that Batman's sufficiently malleable that you could get away with making him fascist.
You can see some elements of it in his 'let's have contingencies for every member of the Justice League' thing, but it's hardly an element in every incarnation of Batman.
Yeah, I would agree, although Odradek's point does hold some water: Batman has always been the kind of hero willing to compromise himself as a moral actor in favour of a greater good in really bad no-win situations, while Superman is the sort of hero who will not compromise on his morals because he understands that his power obligates him to set a moral example. The former is not at heart a "fascist," but he is a very dark shade of hero; the latter is much more idealistic, but he can afford to be and would be to some degree even if he could not because that is who he is. Batman sees himself as a necessary evil in a society that should not need him, a human weapon; Superman sees himself as a protector sworn to a moral good higher than himself, a human shield. Or so I have gleaned.
Well, yeah. Out of anybody in the DCU, Batman's the most likely to go fascist without having to make an Elseworld.
Yeah, I would agree, although Odradek's point does hold some water: Batman has always been the kind of hero willing to compromise himself as a moral actor in favour of a greater good in really bad no-win situations, while Superman is the sort of hero who will not compromise on his morals because he understands that his power obligates him to set a moral example. The former is not at heart a "fascist," but he is a very dark shade of hero; the latter is much more idealistic, but he can afford to be and would be to some degree even if he could not because that is who he is. Batman sees himself as a necessary evil in a society that should not need him, a human weapon; Superman sees himself as a protector sworn to a moral good higher than himself, a human shield. Or so I have gleaned.
Well, yeah. Out of anybody in the DCU, Batman's the most likely to go fascist without having to make an Elseworld.
I still think it pretty unlikely given the kind of person that Batman tends to be characterised as. He does not think of himself as morally righteous in the way that someone with a truly fascistic mindset does. Rather, he sees himself as a compromised moral actor capable of doing awful things that good people should never be forced to do. It's a strange way of thinking, and perhaps insane, but not quite so authoritarian as it is made out to be.
Freaking the fuck out over minor criticism of a white supremacist invalidates the human race.
Dammit math nerds, in the end you did manage to prove antinatalism.
Pfffffft.
Stop reading LessWrong, even by proxy. I think it's going to give you soul cancer.
On a barely related note, I realised why it's not a contradiction in terms for a philosophical pessimist to look forward to the end of the universe. Kind of face-palmed at my own failure to realise it earlier.
Freaking the fuck out over minor criticism of a white supremacist invalidates the human race.
Dammit math nerds, in the end you did manage to prove antinatalism.
Pfffffft.
Stop reading LessWrong, even by proxy. I think it's going to give you soul cancer.
On a barely related note, I realised why it's not a contradiction in terms for a philosophical pessimist to look forward to the end of the universe. Kind of face-palmed at my own failure to realise it earlier.
> Also, it takes up crudloads of nitrogen and water.
You mean to grow it?
I bet it's chump change compared to the amount of nitrogen and water that people waste just to maintain lawns.
Yes, Eurasian lawn grasses are inefficient and meant for climates with much more rain and with more nitrogen replenishing factors. But, plant for plant, space for space, pound of soil vs pound of soil, marijuana is more inefficient than corn, which is far more inefficient than lawn grasses. If people had lawns of marijuana instead of grass, it would require much more water and nitrogen.
Another difference is how much marijuana is grown indoors, which is, in fact, extreme with regards to energy needed vs plant output inefficiency. Lawn Grasses are at least hardy (to temperature and varying sun and humidity) much more than marijuana.
Grasses of lawns can be left alone, though watered and fertilized, and live, though with weeds and parasites. Marijuana must be Cultivated. At least agriculture produces food
Growing marijuana in place of grass would be pretty incredibly stupid anyway.
What I meant was, going after people growing marijuana is probably a waste of effort on a policy scale if your intent is to focus on waste of natural and ecosystem resources. You're much better off dissuading people from filling their lawns with grass...
...y'know, if I were a policymaker, I might be inclined to subsidize housing options that have no lawns, or very small lawns.
Oh, and I learned about tritone substitutions today.
So that's how them piano players do that thing.
Ooh, I never knew there was a term for this.
I just knew that tritone-away chords were closely related.
Also, putting a scale degree 5 below a tritone-substituted V chord is a pretty neat sound. So, for example, a Db major chord with a G in the bass, resolving to a C major or C mnor chord.
Y'know what would be nice? Instead of each house having its own lawn, which people inevitably fence in and stuff, have a common backyard shared by a number of surrounding houses.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I know this is stupid
But that little neurotic autistic part of me is irritated that Mozilla revamped Firefox's interface for version 29 instead of waiting for a nice round number like 30
Freaking the fuck out over minor criticism of a white supremacist invalidates the human race.
Dammit math nerds, in the end you did manage to prove antinatalism.
Pfffffft.
Stop reading LessWrong, even by proxy. I think it's going to give you soul cancer.
On a barely related note, I realised why it's not a contradiction in terms for a philosophical pessimist to look forward to the end of the universe. Kind of face-palmed at my own failure to realise it earlier.
why
Simple: Philosophical pessimism, despite sharing the name and root of the dispositional variety (and frequently being espoused by dispositional pessimists), is not using that root in the same way.
Optima is the Latin word for "best," pessima the one for "worst." Dispositional optimism and pessimism are about outcomes, being either the best or the worst; the philosophical varieties apply more to the statement "this is the _____ of all possible worlds," or, "being alive is the _____ thing."
A philsophical optimist in the extreme sense would basically be Pangloss but actually sincere, although most people tend towards some form of philosophical optimism because the alternative is frequently depressing. Most schools of Buddhism are pessimistic in philosophy, but optimistic in disposition; many evangelical Chistian sects are the opposite.
Freaking the fuck out over minor criticism of a white supremacist invalidates the human race.
Dammit math nerds, in the end you did manage to prove antinatalism.
Pfffffft.
Stop reading LessWrong, even by proxy. I think it's going to give you soul cancer.
On a barely related note, I realised why it's not a contradiction in terms for a philosophical pessimist to look forward to the end of the universe. Kind of face-palmed at my own failure to realise it earlier.
why
Simple: Philosophical pessimism, despite sharing the name and root of the dispositional variety (and frequently being espoused by dispositional pessimists), is not using that root in the same way.
Optima is the Latin word for "best," pessima the one for "worst." Dispositional optimism and pessimism are about outcomes, being either the best or the worst; the philosophical varieties apply more to the statement "this is the _____ of all possible worlds," or, "being alive is the _____ thing."
A philsophical optimist in the extreme sense would basically be Pangloss but actually sincere, although most people tend towards some form of philosophical optimism because the alternative is frequently depressing. Most schools of Buddhism are pessimistic in philosophy, but optimistic in disposition; many evangelical Chistian sects are the opposite.
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epIn the national forests trespass growths, old tires are often used to surround young marijuana plants. These tires are just left to decompose and contaminate groundwater supplies.
Many of the bigger marijuana trespass plantations in national parks and forests have support from certain Mexican drug cartels.
FRANCE LOST EUROVISION SO FUCKING HARD
GET FUCKED GABACHOS
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
once had as many as we
He replied "Fish, fiddle-de-dee!"
And his Aunt Jobiska made him drink
Lavender water tinged with pink,
For she said "The World in general knows
There's nothing so good for a Pobble's toes!"
The Pobble who has no toes
Swam across the Bristol Channel;
But before he set out he wrapped his nose
In a piece of scarlet flannel.
For his Aunt Jobiska said "No harm
Can come to his toes if his nose is warm;
And it's perfectly known that a Pobble's toes
Are safe, -- provided he minds his nose!"
The Pobble swam fast and well,
And when boats or ships came near him,
He tinkledy-blinkledy-winkled a bell,
So that all the world could hear him.
And all the Sailors and Admirals cried,
When they saw him nearing the further side -
"He has gone to fish for his Aunt Jobiska's
Runcible Cat with crimson whiskers!"
But before he touched the shore,
The shore of the Bristol Channel,
A sea-green porpoise carried away
His wrapper of scarlet flannel.
And when he came to observe his feet,
Formerly garnished with toes so neat,
His face at once became forlorn,
On perceiving that all his toes were gone!
And nobody ever knew,
From that dark day to the present,
Whoso had taken the Pobble's toes,
In a manner so far from pleasant.
Whether the shrimps, or crawfish grey,
Or crafty Mermaids stole them away -
Nobody knew: and nobody knows
How the Pobble was robbed of his twice five toes!
The Pobble who has no toes
Was placed in a friendly Bark,
And they rowed him back, and carried him up
To his Aunt Jobiska's Park.
And she made him a feast at his earnest wish
Of eggs and buttercups fried with fish, -
And she said "It's a fact the whole world knows,
That Pobbles are happier without their toes!"
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
I don't understand.
大學的年同性戀毛皮
aaaaa
wait nvm
Dammit math nerds, in the end you did manage to prove antinatalism.
大學的年同性戀毛皮
aaaaa
What I meant was, going after people growing marijuana is probably a waste of effort on a policy scale if your intent is to focus on waste of natural and ecosystem resources. You're much better off dissuading people from filling their lawns with grass...
...y'know, if I were a policymaker, I might be inclined to subsidize housing options that have no lawns, or very small lawns.
except when you need a place to grill out
大學的年同性戀毛皮
aaaaa
I just knew that tritone-away chords were closely related.
Also, putting a scale degree 5 below a tritone-substituted V chord is a pretty neat sound. So, for example, a Db major chord with a G in the bass, resolving to a C major or C mnor chord.
for resolving to C minor
stepwise chromaticism FTW
But that little neurotic autistic part of me is irritated that Mozilla revamped Firefox's interface for version 29 instead of waiting for a nice round number like 30