The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

1491049114913491549167762

Comments

  • TreTre
    edited 2014-05-05 20:18:33
    image
    Lilly said:

    Kexruct said:

    Boston only has about half a million people? That's so weird to me.

    "Boston" is only a very small chunk of the Boston Metropolitan Area.  Like, Harvard and MIT are in Cambridge, which is right next to Boston.
    Fun fact: I lived in one of Boston's other suburbs, Quincy, for about two years

    but my parents disliked it and my mom got a better job offer down in North Carolina so we've lived here since I was 5 or so
  • kill living beings
    as an emotivist i take great offense
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    @Tre Heh, I moved to North Carolina when I was about 4 for similar reasons(my dad found a better job here)
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    yesterday my flatmate expressed the opinion that philosophy shouldn't be a subject because 'you shouldn't take your ideas from dead old thinkers, it's up to you to develop your own philosophy as you live your life, and you can't teach that in a class', and all my other flatmates seemed to think this was really clever and profound

    i tried to explain that that's not what philosophy classes are really about, and that the opinions of thinkers in the humanities aren't normally presented to students as being the final word on the subject in any case, but i don't think anyone was convinced
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    So who was it that licensed this piece of shit?



    The property's creator retained most of the rights to it until 2007, when he sold them to Entertainment Rights. Entertainment Rights fell into administration (the British version of bankruptcy) in 2009, and from there they bounced to Boomerang Media (where Entertainment Rights took Classic Media's name) to DreamWorks Animation.
  • edited 2014-05-05 20:32:15
    Open question (not sarcasm nor criticism) to Odradek:

    So, what exactly is your opinion on philosophy?  on specific branches of philosophy?  What about math geeks?  What about people who make fun of math geeks?  What about social criticism and social theory?  Or other potentially controversial social commentary stuff that pops up on the internet?  etc.

    Because, I'll say frank here, I almost never understand what you mean in your posts, because I would need to guess what you're thinking based on some webcomic or copypasta you've posted, perhaps with a slight terse comment.  And frankly speaking, I'm not good at that, especially on the internet, where things are frequently coated with multiple layers of sarcasm and Poe's Law, and hazarding a guess is potentially very hazardous to me.
  • > 4:00
    > longplay

    [Star Wolf] I don't believe it!

    Then again, it's not like there's a real way to "longplay" that game...you either know where Waldo is, or you don't.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    Got my passport in the mail. Finally.
  • edited 2014-05-05 20:37:37
    kill living beings
    Tachyon said:

    yesterday my flatmate expressed the opinion that philosophy shouldn't be a subject because 'you shouldn't take your ideas from dead old thinkers, it's up to you to develop your own philosophy as you live your life, and you can't teach that in a class', and all my other flatmates seemed to think this was really clever and profound

    i tried to explain that that's not what philosophy classes are really about, and that the opinions of thinkers in the humanities aren't normally presented to students as being the final word on the subject in any case, but i don't think anyone was convinced

    reading this next to a physics paper all about buildling on gibbs and maxwell is a p. good experience

    DEAD WHITE MEN
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Open question (not sarcasm nor criticism) to Odradek:

    So, what exactly is your opinion on philosophy?  on specific branches of philosophy?  What about math geeks?  What about people who make fun of math geeks?  What about social criticism and social theory?  Or other potentially controversial social commentary stuff that pops up on the internet?  etc.

    Because, I'll say frank here, I almost never understand what you mean in your posts, because I would need to guess what you're thinking based on some webcomic or copypasta you've posted, perhaps with a slight terse comment.  And frankly speaking, I'm not good at that, especially on the internet, where things are frequently coated with multiple layers of sarcasm and Poe's Law, and hazarding a guess is potentially very hazardous to me.

    1.It's good

    2. Metaphysics gets too much shit, epistemology is important, ethics is unimportant mostly and aesthetics is mostly frippery

    3. Fuck 'em

    4. I dunno

    5. I dunno, ask Tachyon

    6. 90% of the internet is shit.
  • edited 2014-05-05 20:38:22
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i can save you some of your puzzling, Glenn, by informing you that Odradek reads a lot of philosophy and finds it interesting

    and also that when he refers to 'math geeks' he doesn't mean people like Ponicalica, but rather the dregs of LessWrong

    ninja'd by Odradek himself, making this redundant
  • edited 2014-05-05 20:42:08
    I've been instructed to ask you about social criticism and social theory.

    So, Tachyon...what about that social criticism and social theory?

    Also, I thought LessWrong was filled with internet warrior anti-religionists.  Does this overlap with math geeks to a significant extent?  or am I totally wrong about this?
  • edited 2014-05-05 20:43:01
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    'social criticism and social theory' could mean a lot of things, ranging from satire to anthropological essays

    some of it's good, some of it isn't, and as a discipline the body of work called 'theory' is hampered by a great deal of waffle and vagueness (it's getting better, but it's still a problem)
  • kill living beings
    actual mathematicians are often religious. but at the same time it's sometimes in ways that seem really bizarre to those of us watching, same as the atheists. it owns imo
  • sounds like it should be called social analysis rather than social theory
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    One of the issues I've seen with certain parts of the social sciences is how little scientific rigor there is. I remember that someone had a bullshit generator that could write legitimate-looking sociology papers...
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    LessWrong is a sort of transhumanist singularitarian cult of reason for people who believe the robot apocalypse is a serious threat, and they regard religion, politics, and a great many other human endeavours with considerable disdain
  • How does LessWrong compare and/or relate to RationalWiki?  What little I know of both places seems to suggest that they'd attract similar crowds.
  • kill living beings
    lee4hmz said:

    One of the issues I've seen with certain parts of the social sciences is how little scientific rigor there is. I remember that someone had a bullshit generator that could write legitimate-looking sociology papers...

    not that there aren't methodology problems but heh heh

    also i don't think 'social criticism' or 'social theory' means sociology or other empiric stuff so much as, uh, i don't know.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    How does LessWrong compare and/or relate to RationalWiki?  What little I know of both places seems to suggest that they'd attract similar crowds.

    Less Wrong thinks Rational Wiki is full of insane marxists.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Right; I'd imagine just having a qualifier on "social" helps them focus.
  • Would "insane marxists" be considered less or more hardcore than LessWrong?
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Would "insane marxists" be considered less or more hardcore than LessWrong?

    Hardcore in what way?
  • edited 2014-05-05 20:52:21
    Alternatively:

    Are "insane marxists" considered diametrically opposed to, insufficiently pure/hardcore/etc. compared to, or too extreme compared to LessWrong?

    I'm trying to make sense of the different groups in some sort of multidimensional mental social space.
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Odradek said:

    How does LessWrong compare and/or relate to RationalWiki?  What little I know of both places seems to suggest that they'd attract similar crowds.

    Less Wrong thinks Rational Wiki is full of insane marxists.
    And from what I've seen, RW thinks LW are scary Scientologist-wannabes. 
  • LOL @ "RW" and "LW" abbreviations
  • edited 2014-05-05 20:58:07
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    also i don't think 'social criticism' or 'social theory' means sociology or other empiric stuff so much as, uh, i don't know.


    'social theory' is really hard to define, but there's definitely a lot of overlap with sociology

    basically, if they're doing statistical analysis and conducting surveys it's sociology, and if they're making frequent allusions to Saussurean linguistics and Marxist philosophy it's theory
  • edited 2014-05-05 21:02:30
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    ....there is not an umlaut over the "e" in "moe".

    I don't like to correct how people write things, but that particular one bothers me to no end and I don't get why people do it.

    In that case, it's a diaeresis, not an umlaut. It uses the same symbol to indicate that two vowels that usually become a diphthong or a single long vowel are pronounced separately. It is much more common in French and Greek loan-words and proper nouns like naïve and Nausicaä (the chick from the Odyssey or the Miyazaki protagonist) than in regular English or other words; sometimes you see it in words like preëmptive as well, although that is rarer in modern spelling...

    Sorry, but it's a perfectly legitimate transliteration convention.
  • m'darling im afraid that people have already said most of those things in response to that post.

    but putting a diaeresis over the e in moe still looks hella stupid
  • ....there is not an umlaut over the "e" in "moe".

    I don't like to correct how people write things, but that particular one bothers me to no end and I don't get why people do it.

    In that case, it's a diaeresis, not an umlaut. It uses the same symbol to indicate that two vowels that usually become a diphthong or a single long vowel are pronounced separately. It is much more common in French and Greek loan-words and proper nouns like naïve and Nausicaä (the chick from the Odyssey or the Miyazaki protagonist). Sometimes you see it in words like preëmptive as well, although that is rarer in modern spelling...

    Sorry, but it's a perfectly legitimate transliteration convention.
    we had this discussion yesterday and the general idea that I walked away from it with is that I don't know anything about language, which should not shock anyone.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    from what little i've seen of Rational Wiki, it seems a bit more grounded and sensible than LW, but i don't know

    LW has its own weird jargon which makes a lot of it difficult to understand from an outside perspective
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    ....there is not an umlaut over the "e" in "moe".

    I don't like to correct how people write things, but that particular one bothers me to no end and I don't get why people do it.

    In that case, it's a diaeresis, not an umlaut. It uses the same symbol to indicate that two vowels that usually become a diphthong or a single long vowel are pronounced separately. It is much more common in French and Greek loan-words and proper nouns like naïve and Nausicaä (the chick from the Odyssey or the Miyazaki protagonist). Sometimes you see it in words like preëmptive as well, although that is rarer in modern spelling...

    Sorry, but it's a perfectly legitimate transliteration convention.
    we had this discussion yesterday and the general idea that I walked away from it with is that I don't know anything about language, which should not shock anyone.
    Oh.

    Sorry. u_u

    Most people don't know that, though, so now you do! Which is not especially useful, but somewhat positive.
  • I have gotten back into Path of Exile in recent days and I highly recommend it for anyone who's looking for a better sequel to Diablo 2 than Diablo 3.
  • image

    This is my Witch character in Path of Exile.

    She is the dedicated Intelligence character, and I have built this one mostly around Fire and Summoning spells.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    from what little i've seen of Rational Wiki, it seems a bit more grounded and sensible than LW, but i don't know

    LW has its own weird jargon which makes a lot of it difficult to understand from an outside perspective

    Rational Wiki is a little over-harsh on people who believe in things that they do not believe in, but they are far, far more sensible and self-aware than LessWrong will likely ever be. It helps that they aren't basically a personality cult, and actually possess a sense of humour about what they do.

    Their articles on different kinds of wrongness are very funny.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Ironically, I think Where's Waldo? could make a decent video game, on a modern touchscreen device

    A tablet has a high enough resolution that it would be able to render a decent image of one of the books' crowd scenes instead of a mess of indistinguishable pixelly sprites, and tapping on a touchscreen where you think you've found Waldo would be less tedious than moving that little cursor around with a d-pad
  • Ironically, I think Where's Waldo? could make a decent video game, on a modern touchscreen device


    A tablet has a high enough resolution that it would be able to render a decent image of one of the books' crowd scenes instead of a mess of indistinguishable pixelly sprites, and tapping on a touchscreen where you think you've found Waldo would be less tedious than moving that little cursor around with a d-pad
    I think it'd be more prudent to make you draw a circle or something along those lines, since it'd be too easy to just wipe your finger all over the screen until you "find" Waldo.
  • i got some new socks! :3
  • edited 2014-05-05 21:11:27
    You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    ...True.

    Which, incidentally, is the only way I can manage to beat that NES game--brute-forcing it by clicking all over the screen until I "find" Waldo, because most of the time his sprite is impossible to tell apart from all the others anyway.
  • image

    a more zoomed-in picture of my Witch where you can see her mask and spirit shield.

    also her zombie friends and the spectre she raised

    i got some new socks! :3

    SOCK HYPE
  • kill living beings
  • ...True.


    Which, incidentally, is the only way I can manage to beat that NES game--brute-forcing it by clicking all over the screen until I "find" Waldo, because most of the time his sprite is impossible to tell apart from all the others anyway.
    Even without the Waldo license, you could hire a couple of good artists to make some really nice and detailed spot fields, and have the player find various scenes.

    Then put the thing on the app store and sell it for a buck or two, and become millionaires off of "dad trying to keep his kid quiet while he drinks Coors Light" money.

    We should work for Mojo or PopCap or something, Centy.
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    It's funny because the ¨ is also called diaeresis in Spanish but its use in the language is nothing like in English.

    In Spanish, "g" can be soft (like the one in English) or hard (sounds similar to the -ch in loch), but the hard sound only happens when next to e or i . When a soft g goes next to e or i we write a mute u like gue, gui. However, there are some words where the u isn't mute so we put a diaeresis over it. Pingüino is the most common example.

    Language trivia
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Relevant:

    image


  • if I ever become a famous record producer I want to make Viper successful for two reasons

    1) even if he's really bad at writing lyrics, dude's got a good voice

    2) he pretty clearly needs help
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    It's funny because the ¨ is also called diaeresis in Spanish but its use in the language is nothing like in English.

    In Spanish, "g" can be soft (like the one in English) or hard (sounds similar to the -ch in loch), but the hard sound only happens when next to e or i . When a soft g goes next to e or i we write a mute u like gue, gui. However, there are some words where the u isn't mute so we put a diaeresis over it. Pingüino is the most common example.

    Language trivia

    There are some other languages that do the same thing, but I can't think of that many. The purpose is the same at the root—make two what is usually one—but the use is different.

    Meanwhile, Pinyin uses the same symbol as both a diaeresis and an umlaut, of a form. So did Wade-Giles. It's odd. But that vowel/semivowel is odd...
Sign In or Register to comment.