The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    Odradek said:

    Kexruct said:

    Odradek said:

    I want all the Fox superhero movies to do great so Disney never ever ever never gets the rights to Spider-Man and the X-Men.

    They've done good things with the MCU...
    Good BORING things
    I've only seen The Avengers and Captain America 2, and I wouldn't call either of them boring. In fact, both of them were a ton of fun and some of the best superhero movies around. Also there's nothing boring about the MCU as a concept; it was really quite daring before The Avengers came around and broke all the records it did.
    It probably hurts that I have a friend who won't shut up about it.

    Do you know that they're going to have the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in Avengers 2 YES I KNOW I KNOW I REALLY KNOW I KNOW MORE THAN I HAVE EVER KNOWN IN MY LIFE

    I will say that Guardians of the Galaxy looks good.
  • edited 2014-05-03 22:17:24
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I enjoy the MCU

    Sometimes I want to use Iron Man/Tony Stark avatars
  • edited 2014-05-03 22:21:08
    Honestly the pandering crap that Sony is doing with Spider-Man is a lot worse; I mean, at least Marvel delegates its obscure characters to either one-note cameos or makes them important or interesting.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Marvel isn't grimdark YEAH BECAUSE IF IT WAS IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IN IT'S STUPIDNESS INSTEAD OF A BIG FLAMING TRAIN OF UNENDING ADEQUACY
  • i used to approve of the job mark sanford is doing

    i now disapprove

    he hasn't done anything horribly stupid lately and thus isn't funny anymore.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    Honestly the pandering crap that Sony is doing with Spider-Man is a lot worse; I mean, at least Marvel delegates its obscure characters to either one-note cameos or important, interesting characters; in the reboot's case the characters are the focus and they're still uninteresting.

    See it is making mistakes instead of the endless playing it safe, now and forever, that Marvel is doing.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    SUPERHEROES
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I said superheroes
  • wait, you mean he's actually supposed to be an elected public servant and not a comedian?

    i thought that was stephen colbert's job!
  • Like, honestly I'm kind of baffled here because that's really backwards. The Amazing Spider-Man was quite possibly the safest movie ever made; a reboot of a tried-and-true franchise that was a rebooted franchise in an age where that is the thing to do in movies, whereas the MCU has been virtually defined by its risk-taking.
  • Also grimdarkness is like the polar opposite of interesting barring the exceptions of Watchmen and The Dark Knight.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Part of me wonders what's going to happen to Sony Pictures if they lose the Spider-Man rights to Disney/Marvel

    I really, really hope Sony sells SPE off, because they are a toxic ownership regime to them
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Back when it was a washed-up actor snarking while being a right-wing superhero it was risk-taking.

    Captain America 2 was a fun movie, but at no point did it take a risk.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    ALL NERDS USE RIGHT LANE

    NEXT 5 KM
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    goes to left lane /me puts up a sign that says ALL GEEKS USE LEFT LANE / NEXT 2PI KM /me giggles u...
    edited 2014-05-03 22:27:45
    /me goes to left lane

    /me puts up a sign that says ALL GEEKS USE LEFT LANE / NEXT 2PI KM

    /me giggles uncontrollably in the middle of the roadway
  • Well, I mean, very very little Superhero stuff really is risky; stuff like that will always turn a profit. But safe isn't really a valid criticism unless the calculated-ness becomes blatantly obvious in the finished product. This has never happened in either of the MCU movies I watched-and I have little reason to believe it happened in the others- but it was pretty much TASM in entirety. TASM didn't take risks; it was just plain badly written.
  • Of course, if I had to say anything, transplanting such a fundamentally good hero into a morally grey spy thriller is kind of risky, but there's no way Disney won't make money off these movies. 
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Thanks a lot, GMH, now Kexruct will have NO IDEA which lane to use!
  • edited 2014-05-03 22:31:27
    I CAN'T EVEN DRIVE, ASSHOLE
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    Well, I mean, very very little Superhero stuff really is risky; stuff like that will always turn a profit. But safe isn't really a valid criticism unless the calculated-ness becomes blatantly obvious in the finished product. This has never happened in either of the MCU movies I watched-and I have little reason to believe it happened in the others- but it was pretty much TASM in entirety. TASM didn't take risks; it was just plain badly written.

    I haven't seen it because I have no interest in it.

    But TASM has an edgy spider-man and five billion villains one of whom, I am told, looks like a leprechaun.

    This is all probably dumb, but it is at least a dumb I can be interested in, as opposed to Disney Marvel, which repels interest like a magnet.

    My only hope is that Guardians of the Galaxy does well and I can maybe get to see some more obscure superheroes directed by more risky directors and the universe is saved from the forces of five billion more blockbusters that make the Star Wars Prequels look like high art.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Myr, what are your thoughts on Big Hero 6? It's a Walt Disney Animation Studios movie AND a Marvel movie simultaneously!

    I am interested in it, but I do feel sorry for DreamWorks Animation...it will probably trounce Home...
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

    Of course, if I had to say anything, transplanting such a fundamentally good hero into a morally grey spy thriller is kind of risky, but there's no way Disney won't make money off these movies. 

    Captain America is just there in Captain America 2. Replace him with a Solid Snake, it's the same movie.
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    I really don't understand what argument you're making here. You're just throwing out a bunch of weird reactions. 
  • Odradek said:

    Kexruct said:

    Of course, if I had to say anything, transplanting such a fundamentally good hero into a morally grey spy thriller is kind of risky, but there's no way Disney won't make money off these movies. 

    Captain America is just there in Captain America 2. Replace him with a Solid Snake, it's the same movie.
    Captain America's struggle to be the same paragon of boy scout goodness in 2014 as he was in WWII is literally the backbone of the movie.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Kexruct said:

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    I really don't understand what argument you're making here. You're just throwing out a bunch of weird reactions. 
    Am I really being that weird?

    Like, people keep telling me I'm incomprehensible, and I don't want to be.

    Also I hope I am not being mean to you, because I like you and I don't want to be.
  • my opinion is that any movie not seen with friends is probably awful
  • I'm going to be entirely honest here: I haven't the slightest clue where any of the statements you're making are coming from.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Lepidocrocite is what happens when certain iron-containing substances rust underwater. Lepidocrocite is exactly four times as dense as water, and breaks off in scales.

    A robocrocodile would clearly have this for skin.
  • Odradek said:

    Kexruct said:

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    I really don't understand what argument you're making here. You're just throwing out a bunch of weird reactions. 
    Am I really being that weird?

    Like, people keep telling me I'm incomprehensible, and I don't want to be.

    if it makes you feel better I have heard these same criticisms of Captain America 2 before.

    Not that I've seen the movie myself, because I don't really watch movies for the most part.

    You are sometimes hard to parse, such as when you go on long strings of mocking people who follow weird philosophies, largely because in those cases I lack the context necessary to really even know who you're making fun of.
  • Odradek said:

    Kexruct said:

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    ???????????????????????

    ?????????????????????????????????

    I really don't understand what argument you're making here. You're just throwing out a bunch of weird reactions. 
    Am I really being that weird?

    Like, people keep telling me I'm incomprehensible, and I don't want to be.
    You're generally pretty coherent on other stuff, and hell, even here, but what you're saying right now just seems kind of baseless.
    Odradek said:



    Also I hope I am not being mean to you, because I like you and I don't want to be.
    You're fine.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    why don't you all ever talk about artsy films
  • why don't you all ever talk about artsy films

    Because artsy films tend to be more difficult to come by.
  • why don't you all ever talk about artsy films

    I saw Zardoz on TV once and actually thought it was pretty good.

    Mostly because it was weird and bewildering, but I enjoyed that.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    why don't you all ever talk about artsy films

    It's Such A Beautiful Day is a very pretty movie
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    My favorite movie is Naked Lunch
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    As for off-beat Marvel Cinematic Universe films: Section is looking forward to Edgar Wright's Ant-Man movie
  • kill living beings
    superheroes
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    A robogharial, on the other hand, would have fougerite skin.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Also
    Anonus said:

    Myr, what are your thoughts on Big Hero 6? It's a Walt Disney Animation Studios movie AND a Marvel movie simultaneously!


    I am interested in it, but I do feel sorry for DreamWorks Animation...it will probably trounce Home...

  • From what I've seen and heard of TASM, the film's inherently poorly made. A plot that jumps all over the place, characters with poor motivations and relationships that develop off-screen.

    I've seen Iron Man, most of Captain America 1 and The Avengers. I don't feel like they did anything particularly edgy (indeed, I feel like it's going to get safer as more and more money starts riding on this bandwagon), but at least they're competently made.
  • Also I forgot to mention but
    Odradek said:

    But TASM has an edgy spider-man and five billion villains one of whom, I am told, looks like a leprechaun.
    Edgy is absolutely "safe" right now. TASM was sort of a calculated mix of residual Edward Cullen-mania and worshipping of The Dark Knight's aesthetic.

    Odradek said:

    This is all probably dumb, but it is at least a dumb I can be interested in, as opposed to Disney Marvel, which repels interest like a magnet.
    TASM was a completely artificial, hollow, heartless movie. Any stupidity was from an outright lack of quality as opposed to doofy earnestness. 
  • I don't understand why they are making a movie out of Ant-Man.

    He has one of the least interesting powers ever and he's a douche.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.

    why don't you all ever talk about artsy films

    because NERDS
  • edited 2014-05-03 22:44:52
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    of course, a bog's robogators would have Shwwertmannite skin.. Because bog chemistry.
  • From what I've seen and heard of TASM, the film's inherently poorly made. A plot that jumps all over the place, characters with poor motivations and relationships that develop off-screen.


    I've seen Iron Man, most of Captain America 1 and The Avengers. I don't feel like they did anything particularly edgy (indeed, I feel like it's going to get safer as more and more money starts riding on this bandwagon), but at least they're competently made.
    Money wise, they're all safe but they definitely all had challenges. To paraphrase MovieBob, Iron Man 1's challenge was, well, getting people to care about Iron Man (hard to believe, I know), Captain America's was getting people into an old-fashioned black-and-white-morality action movie post-TDK, Thor was considered too weird, and The Avengers relied on all of those other things working.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    I don't understand why they are making a movie out of Ant-Man.

    He has one of the least interesting powers ever and he's a douche.

    Pretty sure you know more about comics than I do: Which characters do you think Marvel should be focusing on instead?

    I know there's a Doctor Strange movie in the pipeline, and they namedropped him in The Winter Solider...
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    Anonus said:

    As for off-beat Marvel Cinematic Universe films: Section is looking forward to Edgar Wright's Ant-Man movie

    I am just plain interested in anything Edgar Wright does. He's one of the few interesting directors left in Hollywood.

    Speaking of which, I still have to see The World's End at some point.
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