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  • edited 2014-03-22 15:02:51
    700 years later...

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  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Someday, I will find a cure for being a person and having a finite attention span.

    Because, seriously, what the heck is wrong with you people that you don't want to listen to a sixteen-hour lecture with one hour of content perseverated on for the full sixteen hours?

    Good gosh, if you can stand a thing once, you should be able to stand it ALL THE TIME EVER; or else just say "you're stupid, you're ugly, and I hate you" and just leave; don't just give some interest and patience and then take it away after a limited amount of time; that's just cruel and yanking the chain.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Aliroz said:

    Tachyon said:

    my right eye feels like it's burning

    what the fuck

    put your fingers on the side-edge of your nose, where the tear duct is, and move them a little down until you find a vein-like thing.  You should be able to feel your pulse with it.  Is it hurt there or inflamed?

    That might be your problem.
    It's not, but thanks for the suggestion.  The pain's easing, anyway; it's just a slight sting now.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    my attention span has gotten worse over time
  • my attention span has gotten worse over time

    this

    i think it has to do with my lack of sleep in general
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Aliroz said:

    Someday, I will find a cure for being a person and having a finite attention span.

    Because, seriously, what the heck is wrong with you people that you don't want to listen to a sixteen-hour lecture with one hour of content perseverated on for the full sixteen hours?

    Good gosh, if you can stand a thing once, you should be able to stand it ALL THE TIME EVER; or else just say "you're stupid, you're ugly, and I hate you" and just leave; don't just give some interest and patience and then take it away after a limited amount of time; that's just cruel and yanking the chain.

    Is there context for this?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Missed sleep kills brain cells, permanently.

    At least, that's what recent findings suggest.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    dammit
  • well that would explain why i feel stupid nowadays
  • Tachyon said:

    Missed sleep kills brain cells, permanently.

    At least, that's what recent findings suggest.

    I find the phrasing of this sentence weird.

    So what kills brain cells only temporarily, because from what I remember, Brain cells aren't a thing that grows back.

    >.>
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    As i understand it, brain cells can actually grow back, under some circumstances.  It used to be believed that they never grow back.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Wikipedia said:

    It has been demonstrated that neurogenesis can sometimes occur in the adult vertebrate brain, a finding that led to controversy in 1999.[29] However, more recent studies of the age of human neurons suggest that this process occurs only for a minority of cells, and the overwhelming majority of neurons comprising the neocortex were formed before birth and persist without replacement.[2]

    It is often possible for peripheral axons to regrow if they are severed. Recent studies have also shown that the body contains a variety of stem cell types that have the capacity to differentiate into neurons. A report in Nature suggested that researchers had found a way to transform human skin cells into working nerve cells using a process called transdifferentiation in which "cells are forced to adopt new identities".[30]

  • So what kills Brain cells temporarily then? 

  • edited 2014-03-22 15:17:45
    Pizza Dog
    This just in cis-het people, your skin cells are trans.
  • edited 2014-03-22 15:17:42
    Touch the cow. Do it now.
    ^^listening to nu-metal
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    idk, i'm not a neuroscientist, Clock.

    As far as i can tell from reading Wikipedia, brain cells are capable of regrowth, but only in 'permissive environments'.  The environment in the central nervous system, following an injury, is generally not permissive; glial scar formation prevents the growth of axons.  Additionally, the older you get, the less capable your brain cells are of regrowth.

    So while they can grow back, generally they don't.
  • So basically, from what I can gather, humans are just giant globs of tissue, muscle and mucus.

    Got it!


  • the amount of tissue increases when humans are sick
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    eye now mildly itchy
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch


    YOU GIVE THOSE DOGS THEIR TREATS RIGHT NOW
  • coherent items that have spaces in their names should be joined by some indicator while in text

    for example

    anime!porky pig = a pig that is anime!porky (perhaps Porky from the Mother series?)

    but

    anime![porky pig] = an anime-style rendition of Porky Pig (the Looney Tunes character)
  • well, parentheses are used to set off explanatory/optional bits, so they can't be used

    brackets are used for editors' notes in a similar fashion in formal text, so they can't be used

    i propose we use curly braces
  • a {Charlie-Chaplin}-like performance

    anime!{Porky Pig}

    {University of Virginia}-related merchandise
  • imageCharlie-Chaplinimage-like performance

    anime!imagePorky Pigimage

    imageUniversity of Virginiaimage-related merchandise
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    ...Toon Zone has no Porky Pig emoticon

    But it DOES have a Mammy Two Shoes emoticon
  • but does it have a Mami Two Shoes emoticon?
  • edited 2014-03-22 16:44:02
    @Tachyon: see, what i do is i notice that language and writing is being used in a way that is inconsistent and/or confusing, and propose solutions that would make them less inconsistent and confusing by making language and text clearer, visually and aurally, and distinct between different meanings/purposes, and i try not to be too awkward in the process, but some awkwardness is inevitable when you're coming up with something new that people don't yet use

    too much of the world is "we've already been doing things a certain way for so long, let's not change it", but that's not a good thing

    (just wanted to explain what i'm trying to do, not trying to get you to agree with me)
  • imageCharlie-Chaplinimage-like performance


    anime!imagePorky Pigimage

    imageUniversity of Virginiaimage-related merchandise
    I get it!
  • The sadness will last forever.
    Changing the words so no aneurysms will take place
  • The sadness will last forever.
    I like to talk about a certain video game but I don't have anyone to talk to about it
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Mami No-Heads
  • edited 2014-03-22 17:05:41
    what videogame?

    also, what would be an interesting thing to do with my list of favorite songs
    would be
        since i keep the list of japanese song titles translated to mask the fact that they're japanese in origin
    (for reasons)
      instead of just translating them to english
    translate them to all sorts of different languages
  • The sadness will last forever.
    Staying in the house today.
  • edited 2014-03-22 17:06:58
    [hmm]
    that's a fun idea
    : formatting my text as if it were computer code
    to indicate which bits are more related or important [or stuff]
  • edited 2014-03-22 17:09:50
    Traditional sentence/paragraph formatting is standard and makes little distinction between importance.  All it does is indicate sets of complete thoughts (in the form of sentences), and if paragraphs are used, relates several (or sometimes too many) of them at a time.  The visual result of this is a long line of text -- you have to scan it carefully to pick out the important bits.

    but
    what-if
    : we indicated importance in text by spacing things apart ?

    I guess it would be less efficient space-wise though.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    Tales of Symphonia
  • i should play that sometime

    actually, i should play some tales game sometime

    i tried starting phantasia a while ago but kinda got stuck at some place in the mountains with harpies i think

    symphonia is actually semi-accessible to me now that i have a gamecube
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Standardization presents several problems.  Persuading people to adopt a standard is difficult.  Agreeing upon which standard should be adopted is also difficult.

    i regard excessive standardization as an impediment to free expression and creativity.  Communication is a two-way process, comprising two distinct acts: the act of writing (inscribing, speaking, filming, sculpting, etc.) and the act of interpretation.  Ambiguous writing impedes communication, but stubbornly interpreting things according to a standard the writer may not be following can be just as much an impediment.

    my position is not 'we've been doing things this way for so long, so why change now?', it's that i think this insistence on standardizing language is restrictive and pedantic.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    ^ ^ Oh.
  • One favorite pastime consisted of rearranging the verses of Virgil’s
    Aeneidso that they described sexual exploits.
    Roman ingenuity.
  • Ambiguous writing impedes communication, but stubbornly interpreting things according to a standard the writer may not be following can be just as much an impediment.

    but what about when the way one is used to interpreting things comes into conflict with the intent of the writer whose writing one is reading?

    because that's my main motivation for standardization: when you (general "you", not you in particular) write something and it confuses me because i think it means something else, or vice versa, because we have different conventions for what formatting means what.
  • I'm posting from my new iPhone!
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    is it fun?
  • Ambiguous writing impedes communication, but stubbornly interpreting things according to a standard the writer may not be following can be just as much an impediment.


    but what about when the way one is used to interpreting things comes into conflict with the intent of the writer whose writing one is reading?
    then you have to actually use your brain and think about things like the human being that you are.




  • Ambiguous writing impedes communication, but stubbornly interpreting things according to a standard the writer may not be following can be just as much an impediment.


    but what about when the way one is used to interpreting things comes into conflict with the intent of the writer whose writing one is reading?
    then you have to actually use your brain and think about things like the human being that you are.




    because clearly, processing the meaning of the writing is not something that human brains do, but only parsing the construction is
  • edited 2014-03-22 17:35:58
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Well, Glenn, if we're trying to communicate, and that situation arises, i'd say that's a learning opportunity for the both of us.

    Although to use your particular example of "anime!porky pig", i would question whether there's any risk of an attentive reader (who is familiar with the character and the convention of prefixing character names with an adjective and an exclamation point) being confused by the lack of bracketing.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    Hmmm
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