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  • The sadness will last forever.
    I like the word egalitarian.
  • edited 2014-03-20 15:34:13
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    egalitarian is a good word, but a bit vague for most purposes

    it can mean a lot of things
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    To me it means "be okay with people existing and not being the same thing you are."
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    That and "treat everyone equally, the same way you want to be treated."
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Good things about having thick hair:
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    615 Music
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I will go to sleep and then later maybe read and program and stuff.
  • Every time I hear about Cleveland my first thought is that CA lives there.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    but that's wrong
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    she lives in Columbus

    just because they BOTH used to have NBC O&Os doesn't mean they're the same city, sheesh
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Grover Cleveland. The president nobody remembers.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Grover was one of my favorite Sesame Street characters
  • Columbus! I meant Columbus!

    They both start with c, see. 
  • The sadness will last forever.
    The church of Grover
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    Grover Cleveland. The president nobody remembers.

    I know him for having two non-consecutive terms and thus counting as the 22nd and 24th Presidents
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Fun fact: Ohio's three largest cities all start with the same letter: Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati, in that order

    The original route connecting the three was called, naturally, the 3-C Highway
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Being two presidents is cheating, in my book. :|
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    Fun fact: Ohio's three largest cities all start with the same letter: Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati, in that order


    The original route connecting the three was called, naturally, the 3-C Highway
    ABC Inc Secret: ABC could have had owned-and-operated stations in all three cities if I weren't such a coward and bought the E.W. Scripps Company
  • Good things about having thick hair:

    *looking awesome


  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    no it doesn't look awesome it just gets horribly tangled and looks like you tried wearing a ferret on your head
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Also, Cleveland is named after a gentleman called Moses Cleaveland.

    The city originally used the proper spelling, but the extra "a" has since been lost to time. Legend has it an early newspaper, The Cleveland Advertiser, shortened the name to make it fit on their masthead.
  • well maybe you should take care of it better?
  • edited 2014-03-20 16:02:03

    no it doesn't look awesome it just gets horribly tangled and looks like you tried wearing a ferret on your head

    Ferret you say?
  • of only my beau was around to respond to that
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
  • The sadness will last forever.
    image
  • The sadness will last forever.
    Feeling old already.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I love Music Band's new album

    their best yet
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    Counterclock knows her shit, her shit being that thin hair is superior
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    that was Fossilmaiden
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    Oh no.
    I got confused.
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    It's just, I get excited when talking about thin hair an I can't think straight
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    Anyway thanks for pointing that out Glenn
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Amaterasu Nui
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Good things about having thick hair:
    • 615 Music
    • I will go to sleep and then later maybe read and program and stuff.
    • Every time I hear about Cleveland my first thought is that CA lives there.
    • but that's wrong
    • she lives in Columbus
    • just because they BOTH used to have NBC O&Os doesn't mean they're the same city, sheesh
    • Grover Cleveland. The president nobody remembers.
    • Grover was one of my favorite Sesame Street characters
    • Columbus! I meant Columbus!
    • They both start with c, see.
    • The church of Grover
    • I know him for having two non-consecutive terms and thus counting as the 22nd and 24th presidents.
    • Fun fact: Ohio's three largest cities all start with the same letter: Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati, in that order
    • The original route connecting the three was called, naturally, the 3-C Highway
    • Being two presidents is cheating, in my book. :|
    • ABC Inc Secret: ABC could have had owned-and-operated stations in all three cities if I weren't such a coward and bought the E.W. Scripps Company
    • *looking awesome
    • no it doesn't look awesome it just gets horribly tangled and looks like you tried wearing a ferret on your head
    • Also, Cleveland is named after a gentleman called Moses Cleaveland.
    • The city originally used the proper spelling, but the extra "a" has since been lost to time. Legend has it an early newspaper, The Cleveland Advertiser, shortened the name to make it fit on their masthead.
    • well maybe you should take care of it better?
    • Ferret you say?
    • of only my beau was around to respond to that
    • this article is good
    • image
    • Feeling old already.
    • I love Music Band's new album
    • their best yet
    • Counterclock knows her shit, her shit being that thin hair is superior
    • that was Fossilmaiden
    • Oh no.
    • I got confused.
    • It's just, I get excited when talking about thin hair an I can't think straight
    • Anyway thanks for pointing that out Glenn
    • Amaterasu Nui
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    I describe myself as a zealous Christian Fundamentalist.
  • edited 2014-03-20 17:00:22
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Ugh, the kinsd of people who say such things.

    I hate those clever people.

    I know I'm wrong, stupid, and I don't matter, so STOP RUBBING IT IN.
  • things said on t-shirts are rarely clever
  • honestly people who wear t-shirts with "witty" phrases on them should make you feel superior
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    image
  • The problem with the wolf shirts is not so much the shirts in-and-of themselves but rather that your fiancé seems to use them as a crutch - an external compensation for his personality and self rather than a natural extension of who he is. Let me try to explain:
    Many men (women as well, but let's keep this discussion focused) in their late teens and early '20s (especially in University) experience some degree of identity crisis and feel an overwhelming need to define themselves somehow. Part of this is often finding some way to define how they present themselves to the world and this manifests itself in an attempt to define themselves through their clothing. Consider a frequent occurrence on MFA - a young guy trying to "dress up" by adding a solitary statement piece to an outfit - often a tie, waistcoat or a fedora or black dress shoes with a regular outfit. He thinks that he looks incredible and that this single item of clothing portrays him as suave, classy or "dapper". His peers may love it: after all, they're the same age. He has successfully defined himself and his personality (classy) by adding these items to his attire. Or has he? Of course the answer is no. Firstly he looks terrible. Secondly, and more importantly is that he's taken the worst possible approach to clothing - the fedora is not an extension of his personality or natural in any way, it is a clumsy (yet understandable) attempt to graft a personality onto himself much like a facade. He has a preconceived notion about what personality such an item has and may confer, and is hoping to have this external presentation magically alter and define his actual personality.
    These are often the actions of one who is insecure about themselves and lacking confidence about who they are and their personality.
    The wolf shirts are in much the same vein as novelty ties. Most offices have novelty tie guy. He comes in every day wearing a different tie - oh look today it's got a duck on it haha what a cool guy. This is grafting a personality (humorous, fun-loving, perhaps even rebellious and anti-authority) artificially onto his external facade. Maybe he's the funniest guy to ever grace the planet. Does adding a duck tie convince you of this? No. It's trying to tell people "seriously, I am humour" rather than displaying innate personality.
    I'm sure your fiancé is a great guy. However, he chooses to display this facade externally - he is "wolf t-shirt guy". Do you feel that this truly describes his personality in all of its complexity and nuance? He is a wonderful and unique person and yet this will not show because he instead displays this faux-persona, this novelty, this concept of a person.
    Such a concept is easy to like and to enjoy as a third-party - you probably found it amusing at first and so do people complimenting the shirts. It's easy to be entertained by novelty tie guy or taken in by how dapper Admiral Fedoraface looks. But I bet these people complimenting the shirts do not run out and replace their wardrobe with similar aesthetics.
    The bigger problem is that this behaviour continues long beyond, say, college. As I mentioned, younger guys go through this and sometimes emerge from the haze on the path to developing their own coherent and personal style. I used to add ties to every outfit thinking that it compensated for everything else - now I post endlessly on MFA about harmony in outfits. However, someone unwilling to give up this facade clothing into adult-hood quite possibly has a strong problem with insecurity and being open. Think about why so many men dress like shit and don't care. Why? Because trying to dress well in any form puts yourself out there and in the open. You are open to criticism, you are open to compliments, you are open to mockery. Many guys simply refuse to take that risk and feel exceptionally uncomfortable if forced to (e.g. a job interview). They don't dress like shit because they truly believe that a jizz stained t-shirt 4 sizes too big is the best shirt to wear, they instead reject the premise and concept of dressing well as being not for them. This is insecurity and this pattern manifests itself in so many other aspects of life (not trying for that job/promotion, not talking to that girl, not going to that club, not moving cities, whatever). Clinging onto wolf shirts may make your fiancé feel comfortable and "happy", but it is ultimately a method to hide and to abstract himself from the world - replacing it instead with Wolf Shirt Guy. When you're 20 this might be hilarious, when you're 45 it's much less so. Think of metal-heads defining themselves by the bands they love and the band t-shirts they wear. Think of them at 50 still dressing like this and unable to function outside of being Metal. It's not cool and one can't help but feel some sympathy (even empathy) for their situation. They've never fully embraced themselves or who they are whilst at the same time firmly convinced that they are dressing how they want and stand against the world - the truest form of self-expression! It's not, because it's not honest about who they are and what they have to offer as a brilliant person.
    Perhaps your fiancé will, at some point, decide to leave the wolf shirts behind and move on. My guess is that he's very critical of other forms of clothing ("cardigans? old men clothes!", "chinos? preppy shit!", "blazers? rich tossers!")? Part of growing up is opening up to alternative possibilities and accepting the sheer variety of options available. He will struggle to find the sartorial vocabulary to express himself until he has a more open mind about clothing and this will frustrate him, probably to the point of returning to the wolf shirts often. Dressing well is a skill like any other, and it requires a learning process. It requires building your vocabulary. It requires finding your voice and, ultimately, dressing in a manner congruent and in harmony with who you are as a person. Being able to express and vocalise yourself in a true and honest fashion.
    I am not advocating that you force such a change on him. Partners in a relationship often feel that they can force changes, for example buying their fiancé new clothes and expecting that he suddenly wears them and dresses well all the time. The change has to come from within, from him and his approach to life and the self. If he is insecure and afraid to put himself into the world without the Wolf Guy then nothing you do will change this internally. However, honest communication from you and an open and informed discussion about the subject is exceedingly healthy and to be encouraged. Talk to him about his choices in presenting himself to the world, about why he dismisses other clothing. Discuss his opinions and don't dismiss them, but perhaps try to present alternative perspectives instead ("Cardigans, old man clothes? Thick cardigans can really make men look muscular and extremely masculine and vital. You'd look great wearing because..).
    Sorry for rambling, I hope this helps add any perspective on your situation. It's not an easy situation and not one that you have a lot of control over (nor should, arguably!). It is an external reflection on your fiancé's personality, but almost certainly not the one he thinks that it is.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i was never into fedoras or novelty ties, but that post rings uncomfortably true for me, particularly the 2nd paragraph
  • kill living beings
    my shirt reads

    EST. 1994
    PRESCOTT
    BREWING
    COMPANY
    ARIZONA
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    what if your whole life has been a perpetual identity crisis
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    If your whole life is a question, then the answers tend to diminish the longer that you live, and tend to get more transcendent and more frightening in roughly equal measure.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    ^ ^
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