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  • edited 2014-03-03 22:12:38
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    I'm not a huge gamer, but I do need to play Fez and Bastion at some point.

    Are there any other relatively recent games like those out there?
  • I'm not a huge gamer, but I do need to play Fez and Bastion at some point.


    Are there any other relatively recent games like those out there?
    in terms of like, "generally considered essential"-ness?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    sometimes i wanna make a 3D platform adventure that takes a bunch of elements from other 3D games, mostly ones that i played when i was a kid, and mashes them together in a way that's really incongruous and silly

    like a 3D IWBTG, only probably less hardcore

    i will never make this, but i imagine it sometimes
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:14:24
    We can do anything if we do it together.

    I'm not a huge gamer, but I do need to play Fez and Bastion at some point.


    Are there any other relatively recent games like those out there?
    in terms of like, "generally considered essential"-ness?
    Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.

    I probably should've been clearer about it to begin with.
  • I'm not a huge gamer, but I do need to play Fez and Bastion at some point.


    Are there any other relatively recent games like those out there?
    in terms of like, "generally considered essential"-ness?
    Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.

    I probably should've been clearer about it to begin with.
    off the top of my head: Cave Story (which is actually kinda old by now), Limbo, Braid (which I don't much care for, but a lot of people like it), Super Meatboy, The Binding of Isaac, and Spelunky HD.
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:16:41
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    also a game combining Myst-style puzzles and VN storytelling sounds really excellent, if  it was done well

    it's certainly a good concept

    my brother's doing something of the sort for a 3rd year game design project, but i imagine it won't be a particularly big game because of the time constraints
  • I should re-plug the thing that happened late last night but I don't feel like it right now.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Tachyon said:

    sometimes i wanna make a 3D platform adventure that takes a bunch of elements from other 3D games, mostly ones that i played when i was a kid, and mashes them together in a way that's really incongruous and silly

    that's what I wanted to do, pretty much, except 2D
  • I'm worked up and incoherent and angry fucking DAMMIT I hate when I get like this.

    The only thing I can eke out at the moment is that I hate feeling like my important experiences are being casually invalidated.
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:18:48
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    @ Mo if you mean the RPG thing i'm wondering whether to make a character or not

    i've enjoyed Drink the Moon, but i'm not that into RPGs and i always seem to drop out of them
  • We can do anything if we do it together.

    I'm not a huge gamer, but I do need to play Fez and Bastion at some point.


    Are there any other relatively recent games like those out there?
    in terms of like, "generally considered essential"-ness?
    Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.

    I probably should've been clearer about it to begin with.
    off the top of my head: Cave Story (which is actually kinda old by now), Limbo, Braid (which I don't much care for, but a lot of people like it), Super Meatboy, The Binding of Isaac, and Spelunky HD.
    Thanks for the tip off. I'll have to keep some of those in mind, especially Cave Story

    I also have to say that I also think JHM's idea has the potential to be something really awesome.
  • I'm not a huge gamer, but I do need to play Fez and Bastion at some point.


    Are there any other relatively recent games like those out there?
    in terms of like, "generally considered essential"-ness?
    Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.

    I probably should've been clearer about it to begin with.
    off the top of my head: Cave Story (which is actually kinda old by now), Limbo, Braid (which I don't much care for, but a lot of people like it), Super Meatboy, The Binding of Isaac, and Spelunky HD.
    There's also Terraria and Hotline Miami. And I'd add Don't Starve as an honorary mention.
  • Personally, I would love to fuse a really good, character-driven interactive story with a more exploration/puzzle-based adventure game format, like a cross between the Myst games and a genuinely good visual novel, but at the moment I lack the connections and skills to do this, so it is a pipe dream.


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    999.
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:20:28
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    that's what I wanted to do, pretty much, except 2D

    that's partly what made me want to do it

    but i got into games relatively late for a nineties kid; the games i'm most nostalgic about are largely 3D games for the N64 and Gamecube.
  • Tachyon said:

    if you mean the RPG thing i'm wondering whether to make a character or not

    no, I meant me potentially contributing to a future EU4 patch. Maybe, possibly, but it's unlikely.

    Kexruct said:

    I'm worked up and incoherent and angry fucking DAMMIT I hate when I get like this.

    The only thing I can eke out at the moment is that I hate feeling like my important experiences are being casually invalidated.

    Dude, you need to chill.

    No one is saying you are not allowed to find X, Y, and Z important, but not everyone else is going to find X, Y, and Z important.

    I get that it's irritating when people don't think things you find meaningful actually are, but this is just the same difference you have to deal with when talking to people who aren't the same religion as you (obviously video games are less important than that, but you get my drift).

    Lower your dongers, is what I'm getting at basically.
  • I'm not a huge gamer, but I do need to play Fez and Bastion at some point.


    Are there any other relatively recent games like those out there?
    in terms of like, "generally considered essential"-ness?
    Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.

    I probably should've been clearer about it to begin with.
    off the top of my head: Cave Story (which is actually kinda old by now), Limbo, Braid (which I don't much care for, but a lot of people like it), Super Meatboy, The Binding of Isaac, and Spelunky HD.
    Adding to this list, the video game Journey is pretty fun, though it's apparently only on PS3, so that might be a problem for you.
  • Kexruct said:

    Personally, I would love to fuse a really good, character-driven interactive story with a more exploration/puzzle-based adventure game format, like a cross between the Myst games and a genuinely good visual novel, but at the moment I lack the connections and skills to do this, so it is a pipe dream.


    .
    999.
    999 has exploratory elements? I thought it was an adventure game.

    I'm not a huge gamer, but I do need to play Fez and Bastion at some point.


    Are there any other relatively recent games like those out there?
    in terms of like, "generally considered essential"-ness?
    Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.

    I probably should've been clearer about it to begin with.
    off the top of my head: Cave Story (which is actually kinda old by now), Limbo, Braid (which I don't much care for, but a lot of people like it), Super Meatboy, The Binding of Isaac, and Spelunky HD.
    There's also Terraria and Hotline Miami. And I'd add Don't Starve as an honorary mention.
    I'd exclude Don't Starve from that list, it seems to be a lot more divisive than Terraria or Hotline Miami.

    Hell, actually, Minecraft should go on that list too.
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:23:28
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Kexruct said:

    Personally, I would love to fuse a really good, character-driven interactive story with a more exploration/puzzle-based adventure game format, like a cross between the Myst games and a genuinely good visual novel, but at the moment I lack the connections and skills to do this, so it is a pipe dream.


    .
    999.
    I will look into it, as it does look interesting, although it is slightly different from what I have in mind.
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:24:17
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Curses, Vanilla...
  • I can't just "chill" I NEVER can and that's why this always happens. I swear I'm physically incapable.
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:23:57
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Amnesia, maybe?

    that's as in recent 'essential' games
  • Kexruct said:

    Personally, I would love to fuse a really good, character-driven interactive story with a more exploration/puzzle-based adventure game format, like a cross between the Myst games and a genuinely good visual novel, but at the moment I lack the connections and skills to do this, so it is a pipe dream.


    .
    999.
    And I dunno if it completely fits, but there's a semi-obscure online series called Submachine that has a very fascinating story/world-building around it.
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:25:27
    We can do anything if we do it together.
    In all honesty, I should play 999 at some point myself, too.

    Thanks for all the recommendations, guys.
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  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Kexruct said:

    I can't just "chill" I NEVER can and that's why this always happens. I swear I'm physically incapable.


    i know the feeling, believe me

    as annoying as this probably sounds, i think you need to try harder

    i say this because i spent my entire childhood and most of my teenage years getting mad about insignificant things and then thinking i was unable to switch off those feelings afterwards

    it never did me any good, and with hindsight, i just needed to be more disciplined

    i would advise thinking things through more before you fly off the handle; is an opinion about video games really worth getting angry about?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Kexruct said:

    I can't just "chill" I NEVER can and that's why this always happens. I swear I'm physically incapable.

    The problem is, you are treating someone else's experiences as invalidating yours rather than simply accepting that they are different from yours, which to be honest kind of comes off like you consider other people's experiences inferior (or superior?) to your own rather than just, well, not the same. What you have to keep in mind is that these things are subjective. You are not wrong simply because someone has not had your experiences, but nor are they; likewise you are not automatically right when someone else is wrong, and so forth.
  • Oh right, Little Inferno! Put that on the list.

    Little Inferno is one of those games people get really mad about.
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:32:25
    @tachyon I know you're trying to help and I thank you for that but I don't like feeling like things that are important to me don't matter.

    @sredni It's probably not even about opinions anymore at this point it's about how damn angry I make myself at everything
  • I want to say that controls are really important, because I stopped playing Syberia (which has a coupe of interesting elements in its story) because the controls were just so, so terrible (and also the voice acting, but I digress)

    But I also stopped playing Prototype because the story was so cliched and hackneyed that I wasn't willing to work through a hard section. And most of the videogames that I'd put on my top ten list are there because of story.

    Then again, the games on that top ten list are also backed up by good gameplay, so
  • Kexruct said:

    I know you're trying to help and I thank you for that but I don't like feeling like things that are important to me don't matter.

    You are assuming things operate on a binary of "Matters / Doesn't Matter".
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.

    Kexruct said:

    You are assuming things operate on a binary of "Matters / Doesn't Matter".

    I hate it when people do this

    it makes me want to punch plankton
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    also the quote system strikes again

    that makes me want to slap plankton's face
  • Kexruct said:

    @sredni It's probably not even about opinions anymore at this point it's about how damn angry I make myself at everything

    that sounds like something you should seek help for.

    Of course, I say this knowing your living situation and knowing that that may not be possible =/
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:33:43
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    nobody's saying they don't matter to you, Kex

    but is it really so important that Naney shares your opinion (in spite of completely different prior experiences and, of course, being a completely different person anyway)?
  • Oh right, Little Inferno! Put that on the list.

    Little Inferno is one of those games people get really mad about.
    Oh right. Of course they would.

    Let's add a couple more then. Thirty Flights of Loving, Proteus, To the Moon, Home, Gone Home, and The Cave.

    Let's make some heads explode.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Kexruct said:

    I know you're trying to help and I thank you for that but I don't like feeling like things that are important to me don't matter.

    They matter to you. That is the most important thing. They do not have to be important to everyone to be important to you. Likewise, did Naney ever single out anything that you liked as bad? More importantly, did he ever say that you were dumb or a bad person for liking that thing? No, he did not.

    Enjoy what you enjoy and feel free to share that enjoyment, but do not begrudge others for their feelings.
  • Kexruct said:

    You are assuming things operate on a binary of "Matters / Doesn't Matter".

    I hate it when people do this

    it makes me want to punch plankton
    Tzetze Quotes: The Next Generation
  • Oh right, Little Inferno! Put that on the list.

    Little Inferno is one of those games people get really mad about.
    Oh right. Of course they would.

    Let's add a couple more then. Thirty Flights of Loving, Proteus, To the Moon, Home, Gone Home, and The Cave.

    Let's make some heads explode.
    Well they were asking for things that were considered essentials, which generally implies near-universal praise.

    Not that any of these games you're listing are bad, but I'm just trying to answer the question.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Tzetze Quotes: The Next Generation


    quoting quoters who quote ಠ_ಠ
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    quote mining

    another thing I fear
  • Tachyon said:

    Tzetze Quotes: The Next Generation


    quoting quoters who quote ಠ_ಠ
    ugh. get these genwunners out of my face #nottryintohearit
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    why are we only listing indie games, out of curiosity?

    there are a heck of a lot of widely-praised games
  • I get it, Mo, Just making a joke. 


    Is the Walking Dead or Anodyne divisive? I feel like they might be.
    I think Anodyne is pretty well regarded.

    I don't know how people feel about the Walking Dead, but I've seen it played and it seems to suffer from Playable Movie Syndrome, much like something like The Last of Us.
  • Tachyon said:

    why are we only listing indie games, out of curiosity?

    there are a heck of a lot of widely-praised games

    Cuz the two she listed were indie games.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    from what i've seen The Walking Dead and The Last of Us are extremely highly regarded by most people
  • We can do anything if we do it together.

    Tachyon said:

    why are we only listing indie games, out of curiosity?

    there are a heck of a lot of widely-praised games

    Cuz the two she listed were indie games.
    I'm nitpicking here, but I'm not a "she".
  • edited 2014-03-03 22:41:45
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    ninja'd
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