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  • Tachyon said:

    On the other hand, if i'm going to go around taking pride in stuff like that, what do i say when someone points out all the bad shit my country did?  i can't excuse it or wave it aside, so i have to take responsibility for it.

    You can just acknowledge it.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    The Second Amendment makes perfect sense in context. It just so happens that the modern United States of America is not that context.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    There's a lot of the UK i've never been to.  i've never even been to Northern Ireland, for instance, or to the Scottish Highlands or North Wales.

    i have been to Scotland, though, and been to many parts of England, if in some cases only briefly.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    i believe in freedom of speech

    i believe governments should not have the right to trample all over their people

    i believe in democracy

    i believe in healthcare and education as a basic right

    i believe governments should look out for the basic needs of their people

    So you're a New Deal Democrat, basically?

    Tachyon said:

    On the other hand, if i'm going to go around taking pride in stuff like that, what do i say when someone points out all the bad shit my country did?  i can't excuse it or wave it aside, so i have to take responsibility for it.

    You can just acknowledge it.
    Yes.
  • edited 2014-02-10 00:41:57
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    In that case, i don't see that i have the right to do more than acknowledge my country's achievements.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I've lived in Ohio my entire life. I've seen a fair bit of it, but certainly not all of it.

    Of course, most of Ohio is pretty rural, and I have been to all three of Ohio's largest urban centers (Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati)

    Notably, I haven't been to Akron, Canton, or Toledo, and I've only been to suburbs of Dayton. I have been to Springfield, though!
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Imagine there's no countries
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    So you're a New Deal Democrat, basically?


    i guess

    my American history is kind of spotty, but what i know of the New Deal seems admirable.
  • edited 2014-02-10 00:44:39
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Imagine there's no countries


    that's hard to do
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    In that case, i don't see that i have the right to do more than acknowledge my country's achievements.

    Well, think of it this way: You would have gladly participated in those achievements and strongly opposed those injustices. So you can be proud of the former and condemn the latter with out feeling like the weight of the world is on your shoulders.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i never thought of it like that, but that seems to make a lot of sense.

    i think like a robot, don't i?
  • What is up with getting ads on youtube in foreign languages?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    i think like a robot, don't i?

    No, you're just really hard on yourself.
  • edited 2014-02-10 00:48:46
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    What is up with getting ads on youtube in foreign languages?

    Did you navigate to YouTube via a link posted by someone overseas?

    Alternatively, you may just have visited a lot of foreign language websites, and Google knows.
  • All my teeth were so long.

    And no one made me stop.
  • Tachyon said:

    Is it strange?  It seems really obvious to me.

    Like, i didn't personally abolish slavery in the Empire or fight Nazis, so why should i take pride in it?

    On the other hand, if i'm going to go around taking pride in stuff like that, what do i say when someone points out all the bad shit my country did?  i can't excuse it or wave it aside, so i have to take responsibility for it.

    No?

    Being proud of your country's accomplishments does not imply bandying that pride about.
  • Personally I feel that if one really loves their homeland they would fully acknowledge that it's not perfect and would actively want to see it become a better place for everyone, instead of just upholding the status quo and going "we're #1, all other peoples go home"
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Tachyon said:

    i think like a robot, don't i?

    No, you're just really hard on yourself.
    i mean, i have a rather mechanical, black-and-white way of thinking which i see ridiculed in redditors and tropers a lot.
  • SF_Sorrow said:

    Personally I feel that if one really loves their homeland they would fully acknowledge that it's not perfect and would actively want to see it become a better place for everyone, instead of just upholding the status quo and going "we're #1, all other peoples go home"

    well yes, but that's what I mean when I say I like the principles America exists on, not necessarily how they've been (not) executed.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    No?

    Being proud of your country's accomplishments does not imply bandying that pride about.


    i don't see any need to keep quiet about it, besides understanding that there's a time and a place.
  • Tachyon said:

    No?

    Being proud of your country's accomplishments does not imply bandying that pride about.


    i don't see any need to keep quiet about it, besides understanding that there's a time and a place.
    I mean, there's the Fourth of July, which presumably has some british counterpart.

    Otherwise I don't really feel the need to bring it up. And I'll again reiterate that when I say I'm a patriot I don't mean I'm one of those people who argues that The US singlehandedly won World War II.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    SF_Sorrow said:

    Personally I feel that if one really loves their homeland they would fully acknowledge that it's not perfect and would actively want to see it become a better place for everyone, instead of just upholding the status quo and going "we're #1, all other peoples go home"

    well yes, but that's what I mean when I say I like the principles America exists on, not necessarily how they've been (not) executed.
    Which makes you Frederick Douglass' definition of a patriot.


    Tachyon said:

    Tachyon said:

    i think like a robot, don't i?

    No, you're just really hard on yourself.
    i mean, i have a rather mechanical, black-and-white way of thinking which i see ridiculed in redditors and tropers a lot.
    But you're not an insensitive jerk with no self-awareness. You are a bit literal, but you are generally very thoughtful and extremely nice, and you really don't strike me as believing that the world is entirely black and white at all.
  • SF_Sorrow said:

    Personally I feel that if one really loves their homeland they would fully acknowledge that it's not perfect and would actively want to see it become a better place for everyone, instead of just upholding the status quo and going "we're #1, all other peoples go home"

    well yes, but that's what I mean when I say I like the principles America exists on, not necessarily how they've been (not) executed.
    Which makes you Frederick Douglass' definition of a patriot.
    whose Frederick Douglass?



    Tachyon said:

    Tachyon said:

    i think like a robot, don't i?

    No, you're just really hard on yourself.
    i mean, i have a rather mechanical, black-and-white way of thinking which i see ridiculed in redditors and tropers a lot.
    But you're not an insensitive jerk with no self-awareness. You are a bit literal, but you are generally very thoughtful and extremely nice, and you really don't strike me as believing that the world is entirely black and white at all.
    dat
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    SF_Sorrow said:

    Personally I feel that if one really loves their homeland they would fully acknowledge that it's not perfect and would actively want to see it become a better place for everyone, instead of just upholding the status quo and going "we're #1, all other peoples go home"

    well yes, but that's what I mean when I say I like the principles America exists on, not necessarily how they've been (not) executed.
    Which makes you Frederick Douglass' definition of a patriot.
    whose Frederick Douglass?
    One of the greatest orators in American history. Ran as a free black man on a vice-presidential ticket with a female presidential candidate at a time when slavery was still in effect and women could not vote.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    I mean, there's the Fourth of July, which presumably has some british counterpart.

    Otherwise I don't really feel the need to bring it up. And I'll again reiterate that when I say I'm a patriot I don't mean I'm one of those people who argues that The US singlehandedly won World War II.


    Hm... i don't think there is an equivalent, actually.  St George's Day isn't a major celebration.  i guess Guy Fawkes' Night was maybe an equivalent once? These days it's not associated with patriotism, and is increasingly getting overshadowed by Hallowe'en in many places.  If you're Scottish there's Burns Night.

    i'm not suggesting that anyone needs to go around waving a flag everywhere or bragging about their country's achievements, anyway.

    But you're not an insensitive jerk with no self-awareness. You are a bit literal, but you are generally very thoughtful and extremely nice, and you really don't strike me as believing that the world is entirely black and white at all.


    Thank you very much. It's very reassuring that you think so.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    politics
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Frederick Douglass is one of the most important abolitionists, and really ought to be better known than he is.
  • oh you know what I know who this man is, I had just forgotten the name for some reason.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    politics

    image
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Tachyon said:

    Hm... i don't think there is an equivalent, actually.

    Aww, how sad. You miss out on the experience of your neighbors setting off illegal fireworks at all hours of the night for three weeks!

    (I kid; I'm actually really fond of the Fourth of July. Though I never understood why nobody calls it by its proper name.)
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I also think politics are stupid
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i like fireworks.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I do not.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    They are loud, but they're also pretty.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I do not like them.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I like fireworks

    Just not when the idiots down the street are setting them off at 2 AM and scaring your dog
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    you cannot have fireworks without idiots.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    good night everyone
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Nighty night Imi
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Good night, Imi.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    You know what recent Chrome feature I find bizarre?

    The inclusion of the entire Chrome OS interface as "Windows 8 Mode":

    image
  • Tachyon said:

    What is up with getting ads on youtube in foreign languages?

    Did you navigate to YouTube via a link posted by someone overseas?

    Alternatively, you may just have visited a lot of foreign language websites, and Google knows.
    What I mean is, If Youtube doesn't know I'm not foreign at this point, then it's stupid and portrays a glaring weakness in targeted marketing.

    I care even less about a product or service when I can't understand what they want to sell... Nevermind that also applies to ads in english.

    Stupid ad companies.


    ~

    Good night Imi.
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    HCSUSCH beer
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    What I mean is, If Youtube doesn't know I'm not foreign at this point, then it's stupid and portrays a glaring weakness in targeted marketing.

    I care even less about a product or service when I can't understand what they want to sell... Nevermind that also applies to ads in english.

    Stupid ad companies.


    ~

    Good night Imi.


    Sometimes it thinks i'm American because i visit the site via a link someone here posted, and then i get American ads.
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    Phillips 66
    Phillips 69
    Phillips 666
  • Route Twenty-Nine-and-some-change
  • Wait, chromium and chrome ever stopped using the morph ball logo?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i'm craving chicken but i have none

    and Firework has been looping in my head since the conversation on the previous page
  • it still looks like a morph ball to me

    though maybe it's because i'm looking at 16x16 icons
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