Ladies and gentlemen: the philosophy of conservative Republicans.
But that's not my philosophy and I'm a conservative republican.
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Have you been approved by the Republican primary electorate of your local political division as the most conservative choice to lead/represent the city/county/district/ward/parish/state/country?
Have you sufficiently demonstrated that you have an absolute hatred of Obamacare and have never, in any point in your past, supported anything that could look like it, nor have said any positive words about it?
Around here, it basically goes "buy ticket from machine depending on how long you expect to park, get annoyed that the machines only accept coins, get murdered by a lurking traffic warden when you return ten minutes late."
Ours generally work the other way around: When you enter, you get a ticket stamped with the current time, then you pay when you leave. That way it's based on the amount of time you were actually in the garage, instead of having to guess how long you expect to be there.
(Fashionably) Late to the party, but the thing that bugs me about the (UK) Green Party is their stubborn anti-nuclear/anti-GM stances. Those are policies I absolutely cannot stand behind.
anti-GM isn't necessarily stubbornness; obviously scaremongering is unhelpful, but there are reasonable grounds for caution with GM products, both in terms of ethical questions raised and potential environmental harm caused
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
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Have you demonstrated a constant vigilance against any and all possible attacks -- on liberty or the Constitution or anything else that is quintessentially American -- perpetrated by the administration of Barack Hussein Obama II, as well as any agents of his government? Have you maintained your suspicion that he might not be a legitimately-installed president of the United States, and maintained your opinion that he is definitely not interested carrying out his duties properly as indicated by the Constitution, regardless of what policies he proposes?
Have you been a steady bulwark of conservatism, fighting back at all times and in all possible circumstances against the encroaching excesses of liberals, progressives, and the Democratic Party? Do you seek to purge all traces of liberalism from your own party, because liberalism -- and even moderation -- are both traitorous in their sacrifice of American values for various goals they deem practical, and an affront to the brand of the Republican Party?
i am not sure i can get behind defining 'conservative Republican' as 'member of the Republican Party who holds a specific set of uninformed opinions and behaves in an irrational, stereotypical fashion'
being in some sense conservative and supporting the Republican Party, at least to the point of voting for them rather than the Democratic Party, is enough, i'd think
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I'm not a Democrat, and I'm only liberal by certain American definitions of the word
Honestly, I don't understand the anti-GM sentiments. Surely, more testing is needed, but I don't think what is wrong with it in principle. And it feels sometimes that it is more about maintaining "purity" than actual health concerns
What are these American values? we just don't know Hard work! Pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps! An unfailing dedication to our country and the principles it was founded upon, never to sacrifice these principles, under any circumstances!
anti-GM isn't necessarily stubbornness; obviously scaremongering is unhelpful, but there are reasonable grounds for caution with GM products, both in terms of ethical questions raised and potential environmental harm caused
The issue is that there are multiple tested and established strains that are protested against solely because of "OH NO GM WILL MUTATE OUR BABIES" fears.
i am not sure i can get behind defining 'conservative Republican' as 'member of the Republican Party who holds a specific set of uninformed opinions and behaves in an irrational, stereotypical fashion'
being in some sense conservative and supporting the Republican Party, at least to the point of voting for them rather than the Democratic Party, is enough, i'd think
Four or five years ago I would've agreed with this, but given the increasing centralization of the Party, as well as repeated attempts to decry moderates as traitors to the party's ideals, I no longer can. The stereotype has increasingly become the reality, largely on purpose.
i am not sure i can get behind defining 'conservative Republican' as 'member of the Republican Party who holds a specific set of uninformed opinions and behaves in an irrational, stereotypical fashion'
being in some sense conservative and supporting the Republican Party, at least to the point of voting for them rather than the Democratic Party, is enough, i'd think
Well, to be fair, I'm more so describing the general idea of the kind of person who can get elected under that banner, NOT an average voter.
The Republicans have been gradually losing moderate members from their (elected) ranks for years now, due in part to losing primary elections to more conservative Republicans, not seeking re-election (often to avoid losing primary elections to more conservative Republicans), and occasionally being defeated in general elections or even switching parties.
i am not sure i can get behind defining 'conservative Republican' as 'member of the Republican Party who holds a specific set of uninformed opinions and behaves in an irrational, stereotypical fashion'
That's what democrats want republicans to be. In fact, much of the conservative group, including Limbaugh, Beck, Hannitty, and Theodore Cruz are, in fact, sleeper agents placed to define Conservatism. Define it as an awful thing, so ad to increase Democrat support while still keeping Republicans in power enough to prevent third parties from having a chan-
until the subject came up on TVT i never knew 'comrade' was supposed to be exclusively communist
It isn't, really, although context is key: Calling someone "my comrade" means simply that said person is your compatriot, but addressing them as "Comrade" is pretty Marx-y.
(Fashionably) Late to the party, but the thing that bugs me about the (UK) Green Party is their stubborn anti-nuclear/anti-GM stances. Those are policies I absolutely cannot stand behind.
anti-GM isn't necessarily stubbornness; obviously scaremongering is unhelpful, but there are reasonable grounds for caution with GM products, both in terms of ethical questions raised and potential environmental harm caused
Yeah, genetically modified foods are probably relatively harmless to eat, but there are a lot of other, dodgier factors involved. For example, by using crops specifically engineered to survive hazardous pesticides, a lot of important plants that grow in corn fields are being killed off, and thus many of the things that depend on them—monarch butterflies in the US, for instance. There is also the issue of how a single chromosome in a plant or animal can control a whole host of functions which, when modified, may produce all sorts of unpredictable effects, although that is of slightly less concern to me.
Really, it bothers me when people act like there is no reason to be sceptical about genetic engineering in farm practices simply because the problems are not immediately obvious.
I am a bleeding heart social liberal in the country where there are several swear words derived from that word. As far as economics is concerned, I lean strongly to socialist side. Figure this out.
> There is also the issue of how a single chromosome in a plant or animal can control a whole host of functions which, when modified, may produce all sorts of unpredictable effects, although that is of slightly less concern to me.
Except this is what anti-GMO activists are up in arms about, essentially.
> There is also the issue of how a single chromosome in a plant or animal can control a whole host of functions which, when modified, may produce all sorts of unpredictable effects, although that is of slightly less concern to me.
Except this is what anti-GMO activists are up in arms about, essentially.
I'm more talking about things like genetic modification affecting yield when strains crossbreed and the like. The suspicion that modified foods will kill you is probably bullshit... unless you're talking about the pesticides used on them, which is another matter entirely.
Dudes, I live in a valley where we need gas masks through winter because of the air quality being the equivalent of smoking; but we don't wear gas masks so asthma is rampant and there are warnings not to let children play outside. I'd rather have food and health risks from terrible pesticides than neither.
Malnutrition is absolutely terrible. Those pesticides would have to be pretty darn awful to be worse than malnutrition.
I hope we can continue Borlaug's work.
Also, there should be non-GM fields, so monarchs still have something to eat.
Well, I am not sure what it the big difference between GM and selective breeding. I'd even say that in case of GM, we actually have more idea about what we are doing, since "normal" selective breeding operated more on the visible results and not on genes themselves.
^^ The problem is not really the plants themselves, but the pesticides used and the racket that companies like Monsanto have set up to force farmers to buy their seed.
i hate the term 'bleeding-heart'. In any other context, pejoratizing the very act of caring about other people would be decried as ludicrous villainy for villainy's sake. We're talking actual puppy-kicking territory here.
i also dislike how often attacks on left politics seem to amount to some form of ad hominem ('you don't really care about x, you just want to be seen to care about x/want the warm fuzzy feeling that comes with caring about x'), and how much attacks of that kind upset me even though i know they're not valid arguments against the politics themselves
I'm gonna come back later when the politics is over
I'll just say this: Genetic Modification is a wonder when turned to purely altruistic purposes. Norman Borlaug staved off starvation for thousands with his modified rice and grains and whatnot.
> I live in a valley where we need gas masks through winter because of the air quality being the equivalent of smoking; but we don't wear gas masks so asthma is rampant and there are warnings not to let children play outside.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Yes, I'm too lazy to fake a tweet, so I actually just tweeted that on my own account
> I live in a valley where we need gas masks through winter because of the air quality being the equivalent of smoking; but we don't wear gas masks so asthma is rampant and there are warnings not to let children play outside.
Los Angeles?
No, I could never live so near the ocean. Humidity is the salt to my slug.
i hate the term 'bleeding-heart'. In any other context, pejoratizing the very act of caring about other people would be decried as ludicrous villainy for villainy's sake. We're talking actual puppy-kicking territory here.
i also dislike how often attacks on left politics seem to amount to some form of ad hominem ('you don't really care about x, you just want to be seen to care about x/want the warm fuzzy feeling that comes with caring about x'), and how much attacks of that kind upset me even though i know they're not valid arguments against the politics themselves
Me, too.
Although I could be uncharitable and say that the kind of people who use such expressions unironically tend to strike me as born puppy-kickers.
For some reason I am tempted to go find a map of asthma rates by county in the United States and correlate it with topography as well as places where atmospheric inversions happen and try to figure out what location you're talking about. Just because interesting intellectual exercise.
i hate the term 'bleeding-heart'. In any other context, pejoratizing the very act of caring about other people would be decried as ludicrous villainy for villainy's sake. We're talking actual puppy-kicking territory here.
i also dislike how often attacks on left politics seem to amount to some form of ad hominem ('you don't really care about x, you just want to be seen to care about x/want the warm fuzzy feeling that comes with caring about x'), and how much attacks of that kind upset me even though i know they're not valid arguments against the politics themselves
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Have you been approved by the Republican primary electorate of your local political division as the most conservative choice to lead/represent the city/county/district/ward/parish/state/country?
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
i don't want to argue about this but i found Glenn's posts kind of interesting.
not to me, it isn't
though that depends on whether the text really is funny to me, of course anti-GM isn't necessarily stubbornness; obviously scaremongering is unhelpful, but there are reasonable grounds for caution with GM products, both in terms of ethical questions raised and potential environmental harm caused
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
being in some sense conservative and supporting the Republican Party, at least to the point of voting for them rather than the Democratic Party, is enough, i'd think
You guys are liberal Democrats, and since my values tend to be the inverse of most people here, that makes me the opposite of a liberal democrat.
I am an actual real-life Christian Fundamentalist.
Things Nick Clegg is: A Liberal Democrat sans spine.
The Republicans have been gradually losing moderate members from their (elected) ranks for years now, due in part to losing primary elections to more conservative Republicans, not seeking re-election (often to avoid losing primary elections to more conservative Republicans), and occasionally being defeated in general elections or even switching parties.
That's what democrats want republicans to be. In fact, much of the conservative group, including Limbaugh, Beck, Hannitty, and Theodore Cruz are, in fact, sleeper agents placed to define Conservatism. Define it as an awful thing, so ad to increase Democrat support while still keeping Republicans in power enough to prevent third parties from having a chan-
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can control a whole host of functions which, when modified, may produce
all sorts of unpredictable effects, although that is of slightly less
concern to me.
Except this is what anti-GMO activists are up in arms about, essentially.
Malnutrition is absolutely terrible. Those pesticides would have to be pretty darn awful to be worse than malnutrition.
i also dislike how often attacks on left politics seem to amount to some form of ad hominem ('you don't really care about x, you just want to be seen to care about x/want the warm fuzzy feeling that comes with caring about x'), and how much attacks of that kind upset me even though i know they're not valid arguments against the politics themselves
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
the air quality being the equivalent of smoking; but we don't wear gas
masks so asthma is rampant and there are warnings not to let children
play outside.
Los Angeles?
No, I could never live so near the ocean. Humidity is the salt to my slug.
And my valley is only that bad during winter.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
I retweeted you.