yeah, I knew someone would jump on me for using that term - I should've been clearer, in retrospect.
Assessments of their quality aside (I'm not huge on them myself, although I do like a couple of their songs) it is undeniable that they ushered in an era where weirder stuff had a chance at making the charts, at least for a while.
That's more what I was talking about.
i know that
i just felt like throwing in the obligatory thing that i say
what exactly do you guys mean by 'paradigm shifts' because i don't think i'm following this
Big sudden changes in popular taste. The breakthrough of a new genre into the mainstream that displaces an older one's dominance of the charts would be one.
I've gone over before how little rock music speaks to me and Nirvana aren't really an exception there unfortunately. At least not what little bit I've heard, but I've never been motivated to listen to more.
yeah, I knew someone would jump on me for using that term - I should've been clearer, in retrospect.
Assessments of their quality aside (I'm not huge on them myself, although I do like a couple of their songs) it is undeniable that they ushered in an era where weirder stuff had a chance at making the charts, at least for a while.
That's more what I was talking about.
i know that
i just felt like throwing in the obligatory thing that i say
One was "Smells Like Teenage Spirit" (duh) and the other one was something Kurt Cobain did live with members of some other band called like, The Meat Brothers, I think.
I would be more pissed off about your failure to recognise one of the seminal American post-punk/progressive hardcore acts if I were not acutely aware that the majority of people probably have no idea who Meat Puppets were or why they were important.
In very few words: They were from the Southwest and they made punk trippy. You might like their second and third LPs.
One was "Smells Like Teenage Spirit" (duh) and the other one was something Kurt Cobain did live with members of some other band called like, The Meat Brothers, I think.
I would be more pissed off about your failure to recognise one of the seminal American post-punk/progressive hardcore acts if I were not acutely aware that the majority of people probably have no idea who Meat Puppets were or why they were important.
In very few words: They were from the Southwest and they made punk trippy. You might like their second and third LPs.
I listen to neither of those genres, so I find my ignorance excusable here.
I may consider looking into it, but again, headphones, so it's not like I can exactly do it now.
I would be more pissed off about your failure to recognise one of the seminal American post-punk/progressive hardcore acts if I were not acutely aware that the majority of people probably have no idea who Meat Puppets were or why they were important.
In very few words: They were from the Southwest and they made punk trippy. You might like their second and third LPs.
One was "Smells Like Teenage Spirit" (duh) and the other one was something Kurt Cobain did live with members of some other band called like, The Meat Brothers, I think.
I would be more pissed off about your failure to recognise one of the seminal American post-punk/progressive hardcore acts if I were not acutely aware that the majority of people probably have no idea who Meat Puppets were or why they were important.
In very few words: They were from the Southwest and they made punk trippy. You might like their second and third LPs.
I'm a big fan of II, in particular.
That is a really good album.
I actually really do think that you will like it, Mo.
1. every time i scan over one of their records at the store for a second i think it's a Meat Beat Manifesto record and then i do a double take and it isn't and i become sad
2. They do not sound like Meat Beat Manifesto at all
I actually enjoy most R.E.M. that I have heard (which includes a few full albums) but people tend to group them together in a category with a lot of other bands that I don't like at all, so I don't know, maybe I just don't understand something.
real talk those guys are a bunch of heartless sadists getting my hopes up and then dashing them to the floor like so much generic hard candy that tastes vaguely like soap
I actually enjoy most R.E.M. that I have heard (which includes a few full albums) but people tend to group them together in a category with a lot of other bands that I don't like at all, so I don't know, maybe I just don't understand something.
I actually enjoy most R.E.M. that I have heard (which includes a few full albums) but people tend to group them together in a category with a lot of other bands that I don't like at all, so I don't know, maybe I just don't understand something.
Like who?
off the top of my head it's hard to remember many specifics.
The Pixies and The Breeders came up a lot I think.
real talk those guys are a bunch of heartless sadists getting my hopes up and then dashing them to the floor like so much generic hard candy that tastes vaguely like soap
That's only fair when talking about their mid-period albums, which are... bland. Their early stuff is great, if an acquired taste for some.
I actually enjoy most R.E.M. that I have heard (which includes a few full albums) but people tend to group them together in a category with a lot of other bands that I don't like at all, so I don't know, maybe I just don't understand something.
Like who?
off the top of my head it's hard to remember many specifics.
The Pixies and The Breeders came up a lot I think.
I love The Pixies, but I can see why you wouldn't.
real talk those guys are a bunch of heartless sadists getting my hopes up and then dashing them to the floor like so much generic hard candy that tastes vaguely like soap
That's only fair when talking about their mid-period albums, which are... bland. Their early stuff is great, if an acquired taste for some.
I actually enjoy most R.E.M. that I have heard (which includes a few full albums) but people tend to group them together in a category with a lot of other bands that I don't like at all, so I don't know, maybe I just don't understand something.
Like who?
off the top of my head it's hard to remember many specifics.
The Pixies and The Breeders came up a lot I think.
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OK, granted, they're not the best comparison to R.E.M. (Guadalcanal Diary are much, much closer), but I really like both of them.
real talk those guys are a bunch of heartless sadists getting my hopes up and then dashing them to the floor like so much generic hard candy that tastes vaguely like soap
That's only fair when talking about their mid-period albums, which are... bland. Their early stuff is great, if an acquired taste for some.
but they do not sound like meat beat manifesto 8<
No, they do not.
They are more like a psychedelic alt-country band with post-punk and hardcore elements... although their first record and EP are like a free-jazz-inflected hardcore group with country and psych-rock elements.
You will probably like Guadalcanal Diary. And quite possibly Meat Puppets, at least on their second and third albums. Having heard the sort of things that you like, I am reasonably certain of this.
They are very R.E.M.-ish in some ways, but they diverge in a fashion that is hard to describe and have rather different subject matter, as their name might imply.
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Granted, everyone is asleep, but still.
i'm not totally sure what's 'weird' or so especially innovative about Nirvana
maybe i don't have enough perspective on this, i don't know
but like, there was a lot of stranger music before them that never made it into the charts
the loud-soft grunge formula was a formula like any other
i still think it's unusual and kind of cool that this was the first new UK number 1 of the new millennium:
i get the impression you guys are a lot more aware of music history than i am
^ sorry
if i'm ignorant, it's genuine ignorance, i'm not trying to bait you
I may consider looking into it, but again, headphones, so it's not like I can exactly do it now.
Few people are genuinely well versed in the history of popular music.
The Pixies and The Breeders came up a lot I think.
Oh well.
I'm bored. Should I keep being hte Holland or should I play something else.
but i don't speak hte Japanese
1. Blew
2. Scentless Apprentice
3. Drain You
4. Sliver
5. Rape Me
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