Why is it that for most languages we leave words that are part of names untranslated (eg. you'd never hear the name "Edward" rendered as "God's Shield") but we translate them for Native Americans?
i think it's a combination of ignorance and not knowing how best to approach the naming conventions used in some Native American cultures
I dunno, just like
I'm reading about the Lenni Lenape, and for some reason every family/clan/I'm not honestly sure what you'd call this politcal structure is called by their translated name (eg. "Dog Standing By Fireside") instead of their often much less unwieldy untranslated one ("Pun-ar'-you", in this case).
also it always kinda bugged me that some nations are just arbitrarily denoted as "tribes" (the various Mongolian countries and again, Native Americans come to mind).
Is there a general consensus as to what makes something a tribe as opposed to simply a less technologically advanced country?
Why is it that for most languages we leave words that are part of names untranslated (eg. you'd never hear the name "Edward" rendered as "God's Shield") but we translate them for Native Americans?
The same reason that we do it for Argonians: Funny names like Lifts-Her-Tail.
But in all seriousness, let's do some elimination. European names aren't translated because Britain's European and thus doesn't find the names to be that exotic. Africa, for the most part, was considered barbaric by Britain, so no one cared about what Africans thought of their own names, or even about the names themselves. China, the Asian country that Britain is most familiar with, uses a language that largely consists of characters that are words in themselves. If one were to translate names, they'd have to translate everything and that'd be ridiculous.
The Native Americans have just enough respect from the English-speaking world for people to care about what their names mean, but not enough respect that the English-speaking world won't change them in a way that they believe to be cool.
Why is it that for most languages we leave words that are part of names untranslated (eg. you'd never hear the name "Edward" rendered as "God's Shield") but we translate them for Native Americans?
The same reason that we do it for Argonians: Funny names like Lifts-Her-Tail.
But in all seriousness, let's do some elimination. European names aren't translated because Britain's European and thus doesn't find the names to be that exotic. Africa, for the most part, was considered barbaric by Britain, so no one cared about what Africans thought of their own names, or even about the names themselves. China, the Asian country that Britain is most familiar with, uses a language that largely consists of characters that are words in themselves. If one were to translate names, they'd have to translate everything and that'd be ridiculous.
The Native Americans have just enough respect from the English-speaking world for people to care about what their names mean, but not enough respect that the English-speaking world won't change them in a way that they believe to be cool.
it's just weird to me. Especially since it....seeems to be kinda a recent phenomenon?
like, back in the age of colonialism, Native Americans were usually just called by somewhat-off pronunciations of their names as said, or they were just given European names (good example of both is Pometacom being "Metacomet" or "King Philip" depending on who you asked at the time)
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I like making fun of myself too. ^_^
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like no one has ever tried to call me Godsgift From-Man's-Town.
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Admittedly I am still a little unclear as to what my last name actually means when broken all the way down.
It means we're from a place called Auman, and named a town, or we're from a place called Aumansberg, and are named after that town.
That's assuming linguistic corruption hasn't set in over the years (it has).
But the meaning of "auman" isn't entirely clear. I've heard it suggested that it's a couple words mashed together, that it's a dutch corruption of the word "yeoman", and a lot of other things.
Having a pretentious family is sometimes interesting.
I haven't looked into it incredibly deeply but from what I can tell my name means "Man Torturer (or fabric maker) Red-Hair" which is kinda eh.
Also, morbid thought I had recently: In case I die young, it'd probably be a good idea for me to give my personal information to at least one person here so they'll know and be able to say so if I don't come here for a while.
I haven't looked into it incredibly deeply but from what I can tell my name means "Man Torturer (or fabric maker) Red-Hair" which is kinda eh.
Also, morbid thought I had recently: In case I die young, it'd probably be a good idea for me to give my personal information to at least one person here so they'll know and be able to say so if I don't come here for a while.
I have noticed a tendency for female first names to appear as male surnames amongst notable but not noble individuals (eg. Governors, Advisors, Generals). Can anyone think of an in-universe reason why this might be?
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Then again, she has expressed an openness to a relationship with basically anyone should she be so inclined, hypothetically speaking, despite not insofar being attracted to non-male people.
Why oh why did I not write down what the big twist was supposed to be? I know I usually have a good memory for plot details, but I also have a tendency to completely forget them every once in a while.
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I'm reading about the Lenni Lenape, and for some reason every family/clan/I'm not honestly sure what you'd call this politcal structure is called by their translated name (eg. "Dog Standing By Fireside") instead of their often much less unwieldy untranslated one ("Pun-ar'-you", in this case).
Is there a general consensus as to what makes something a tribe as opposed to simply a less technologically advanced country?
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
like, back in the age of colonialism, Native Americans were usually just called by somewhat-off pronunciations of their names as said, or they were just given European names (good example of both is Pometacom being "Metacomet" or "King Philip" depending on who you asked at the time)
When I mean self-deprecation I meant humour though.. I like making fun of myself :v
ah
jokes are fine
It means we're from a place called Auman, and named a town, or we're from a place called Aumansberg, and are named after that town.
That's assuming linguistic corruption hasn't set in over the years (it has).
But the meaning of "auman" isn't entirely clear. I've heard it suggested that it's a couple words mashed together, that it's a dutch corruption of the word "yeoman", and a lot of other things.
Having a pretentious family is sometimes interesting.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
I wonder how hard it was to get this published.
needs moar cynic probably best to leave that with the admins.
I have noticed a tendency for female first names to appear as male surnames amongst notable but not noble individuals (eg. Governors, Advisors, Generals). Can anyone think of an in-universe reason why this might be?
Second name: Bridge near [place redacted] or bridge over [river redacted].
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
^ Either way, you can't fault yourself for what you did.
Also his new background is too blueish
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead