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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I want to see a detailed explanation of why "different than" is wrong.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    different than - NO!

    different to - NO!

    different from - YES!

    Except that all of those can be used, but the last is the only proper one in that context. If one is comparing levels of difference, then "than" may be used; if one is saying that something appears different, whether that perception is theirs or another's, "to" is required; but "from" defines a specific relationship between two things.

    So you are right.

    But making wrong things right as a game is fun, so I did it.
  • edited 2014-01-14 19:46:48
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    I want to see a detailed explanation of why "different than" is wrong.

    Quoth Geoffrey Lukans:

    Hi!

    I’m not trying to be difficult, but…I hereby take exception to the
    notion floated here, that the expressions DIFFERENT FROM and DIFFERENT
    THAN have, seemingly, been on an equal grammatical footing for nearly
    three hundred years!??!

    Wow, where have I been? [Rhetorical question]

    This controversy between THAN and FROM (as prepositions) when used
    with the verb TO DIFFER, or the adjective DIFFERENT, seems to be one
    which has, is, and perhaps will, ultimately, result in accomodation of
    bad, or lazy grammar. It’s yet another instance of the Decline of Our
    Language, the Dumbing-down of primary schooling.

    I hear (presumably), otherwise well-educated, well-spoken people, in
    public, making this mistake. It’s a pretty gross mistake. On one hand,
    when the uneducated speak in this way, it’s one thing. It’s forgivable,
    even though one would like to explain, and disabuse them of their error.
    On the other hand, public figures, whether it’s our President, or a
    respected news-anchor, should be responsible enough to check themselves
    and what they utter, before they go public. Or, have we come to expect
    and accept such colloquial expressions from our role models?

    DIFFER takes the preposition FROM (exclusively), for the simple and
    logical reason that, as the verb TO DIFFER implies, it sets apart by
    EXCLUSION rather than BY DEGREE of COMPARISON. As in – This is different
    from that. When something differs, it implies another, FROM WHICH it
    is distinguished.

    The fundamental question: How does something, be it a state of being,
    a quality, a quantity, an action,…DIFFER FROM another thing? Answer,
    COMPARITIVELY, by contrast. The contrast is either by degree, or by
    total exclusion; if one thing is excluded (outside the set which
    includes another) FROM, it is DIFFERENT. The preposition THAN is used
    with GREATER or LESS; the preposition FROM is used with DIFFERENT.

    That’s how I see it.

    The lazy speaker does not want to expend the effort to construct the
    requisite clause to follow, FROM [THAT WHICH, the other]… etc.

    If we tried this little litmus test in most other languages, we’d
    probably get the same results. It’s beyond the scope of my immediate
    reply to attempt that. I think I would/could prove my premise, but I’ll
    let it go for now.

    Different THAN is colloquial, which is, strictly speaking, not
    correct. It may be “Acceptable, accomodated,” but not right; it is lazy
    usage of grammar.

  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Or, to choose one sentence from that:  The preposition THAN is used
    with GREATER or LESS; the preposition FROM is used with DIFFERENT.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Tachyon said:

    different than - NO!

    different to - NO!

    different from - YES!

    Except that all of those can be used, but the last is the only proper one in that context. If one is comparing levels of difference, then "than" may be used; if one is saying that something appears different, whether that perception is theirs or another's, "to" is required; but "from" defines a specific relationship between two things.

    So you are right.

    But making wrong things right as a game is fun, so I did it.
    :)
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.

    Here's my friend Santa

    Or is it your friend Jumpy?
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    That was my assumption.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.

    Here's my friend Santa

    Or is it your friend Jumpy?
    I wish Jumpy were here...
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Wait, no, Geoffry, David says:

    “than” is a conjunction. “From”, however, is a
    preposition, which is exactly why “different from” is correct and
    “different than” is not.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    image
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    tbh i very, very rarely hear 'different than' and it just sounds really bizarre to me

    kind of like 'this is so fun' in Tangled, that sounded very wrong to me
  • Miko said:

    image

    im sorry i wont post this on facebook until it has at least 158% more jpg
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu

    This video is important
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    He was different fung the others.
    He was different ping the others.
    He was different fnord the others.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.

    I can try.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:


    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.

    I can try.
    Go over here and take me a knuckle sandwhich because it is on!


  • edited 2014-01-14 19:54:30
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:


    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.

    I can try.
    Go over here and take me a knuckle sandwhich because it is on!





    No, you come over here and bring me a knuckle sandwich, punk.  What's with the extra "h"?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Al vs. Al 2014.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    meanwhile

    image
  • So it's probably gonna be two hours. OR the next six seconds.

    ...Well, I got a good feeling about the next six seconds.
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:


    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.

    I can try.
    Go over here and take me a knuckle sandwhich because it is on!





    No, you come over here and bring me a knuckle sandwich, punk.  What's with the extra "h"?
      Extra "h" is cool!
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:


    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.

    I can try.
    Go over here and take me a knuckle sandwhich because it is on!





    No, you come over here and bring me a knuckle sandwich, punk.  What's with the extra "h"?
      Extra "h" is cool!
    Okay, say I just went over there and took a knuckle sandwich; only you
    can come here and bring me a sandwich.  Quit asking me to do that which
    is impossible.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:


    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.

    I can try.
    Go over here and take me a knuckle sandwhich because it is on!





    No, you come over here and bring me a knuckle sandwich, punk.  What's with the extra "h"?
      Extra "h" is cool!
    Okay, say I just went over there and took a knuckle sandwich; only you
    can come here and bring me a sandwich.  Quit asking me to do that which
    is impossible.
    Shouldn't it be that I stop asking you to do the impossible?  Will you cease your complaining or do I have to continue beating you up? 
  • Quadruple Dragon
  • edited 2014-01-14 20:11:29
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:


    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.

    I can try.
    Go over here and take me a knuckle sandwhich because it is on!





    No, you come over here and bring me a knuckle sandwich, punk.  What's with the extra "h"?
      Extra "h" is cool!
    Okay, say I just went over there and took a knuckle sandwich; only you
    can come here and bring me a sandwich.  Quit asking me to do that which
    is impossible.
    Shouldn't it be that I stop asking you to do the impossible?  Will you cease your complaining or do I have to continue beating you up? 
    No, you should keep beating me up; I will quit complaining.  Just between you and I, this is stupid.
  • edited 2014-01-14 20:18:44
    For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.

    *sings a song of love and death*

  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:


    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:

    Aliroz said:



    Also, "different than" is terrible and nobody should ever say it.

    You idiot, what if he or she is introducing a clause?
    Why would you even do that?  There are better ways to introduce a clause, which work differently from what you would think.
    How much further is this argument going to go?  You won't affect the effect of other people on the future of the language.

    I can try.
    Go over here and take me a knuckle sandwhich because it is on!





    No, you come over here and bring me a knuckle sandwich, punk.  What's with the extra "h"?
      Extra "h" is cool!
    Okay, say I just went over there and took a knuckle sandwich; only you
    can come here and bring me a sandwich.  Quit asking me to do that which
    is impossible.
    Shouldn't it be that I stop asking you to do the impossible?  Will you cease your complaining or do I have to continue beating you up? 
    No, you should keep beating me up; I will quit complaining.  Just between you and I, this is stupid.
    -smug grin-

    Sucker!

    -continues doing the beating other aliroz up thing-

    -continues to eat pasta-

    Also, it's just between you and me.
  • edited 2014-01-14 20:14:39
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    This argument is over.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:

    This argument is over.

    No, it's done!
  • edited 2014-01-14 20:22:48
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Aliroz said:


    Aliroz said:

    This argument is over.

    No, it's done!
    Yer both idiots, it's finished.

    I'm not going to do this "arguing with myself" thing any more-

    No, you mean I'm not going to do this "arguing with myself" thing any longer!

    No, you mean I'm not going to do this "arguing against myself" thing any more!

    No, I say we quit.

    No, we stop!

    It really ceases to matter.

    So, it's of no import?

    Idiot, it's of no importance.

    Idiots, it's not important.

    You all just shut up.

    That sentence ending is bad.  You mean, "Shut up, all you."

    You mean "That is a wrong ending for this sentence."You mean "shut up, all of you".

    You mean, "That is the wrong ending for this sentence."

    You mean, "That is the wrong ending to this sentence"

    No, I'm pretty sure that's a wrong ending of the sentence.

  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    I once beat Gill in SFIII
    Additional info: I used Makoto
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    The motherfucker took me like 20 tries though
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    "you could have used a better character than Makoto"
    Maybe but hitting people in the balls it's too fun.
    She yells Chesto! but you can tell she's going for the balls
  • Okay, I had no faith in those last six seconds, but you guys are different, and together--oh, it's already over.

    ...nnnnext six seconds?
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    More importantly, it's time to-

    MOre important!  It's time for-

    Anyways, the time to which we are coming is the time at what moment I have used up all my computer time.

    Reurgam.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Imi the pretty cow
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    good night, Alirozes
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Imcdonalds.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Imi the tasty burger
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    oh no
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Current tiredness level: too tired to think of something funny to say about my current tiredness level
  • edited 2014-01-14 20:58:18
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Last thought:

    Different from and similar to

    because

    away from and close to

    and

    leaving from and coming to

    going from vs going to

    subtract from vs add to

    Separating from and
  • i can break 33 pencils

    all on my own
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