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  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    *hugs Imipolex G* ^_^
  • Also now I feel really self conscious about my avatar brb
  • edited 2014-01-11 23:56:01
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I don't listen to critics anymore because critics hate shmups that aren't Ikaruga which is bullshit.
  • Kexruct said:

    It seems a bit odd to me to watch a top ten and expect anything other than the reviewer's opinions. Personally, I can appreciate something even if it is obviously biased and even if I disagree with the conclusion reached. I don't think I've ever found a critic I liked who I always agreed with.

    "Opinions" and "a persona" are different though. I don't have any reviewers I agree with all the time either.

    Opinions are fine, and in fact, a persona is fine too, usually, just not in video-based music reviews specifically. It's the nature of the medium, you can't play a piece of music while also showing off how clever you are. It doesn't work.
  • Miko said:

    I don't listen to critics anymore because critics hate shmups that aren't Ikaruga which is bullshit.

    There are many good shmups but there are probably more really bad shmups.

    Which is true of any kind of game, but I find that a problem is that a lot of video game fans who are really hardcore fans of one specific genre will deny that there are bad entries within said genre.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I am going to burn in Hell because I continue to eat beautiful animals.
  • Also Ikaruga is accessible, which is one of the reasons it is as popular as it is amongst non-shmup fans.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    There are many good shmups but there are probably more really bad shmups.

    Which
    is true of any kind of game, but I find that a problem is that a lot of
    video game fans who are really hardcore fans of one specific genre will
    deny that there are bad entries within said genre.
    hmm, I suppose I can't think of any shmups I don't like, and I have played a lot. I suppose I was a little annoyed at the general gameplay concept of Hitogata Happa, but that is because I am a noob.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    actually I wonder when I will ever play a shmup I don't like
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
  • Miko said:

    There are many good shmups but there are probably more really bad shmups.

    Which
    is true of any kind of game, but I find that a problem is that a lot of
    video game fans who are really hardcore fans of one specific genre will
    deny that there are bad entries within said genre.
    hmm, I suppose I can't think of any shmups I don't like, and I have played a lot. I suppose I was a little annoyed at the general gameplay concept of Hitogata Happa, but that is because I am a noob.
    Which one is Hitogata Happa?

    Anyway, there are some things a fair chunk of shmups do that is just bad game design. And the thing with communities like the shmup fandom (or to harp on a different point, and one I'm actually more familiar with, the platformer fandom) is that they tend to consider that just extra "challenge", which it's not.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.

    Also Ikaruga is accessible, which is one of the reasons it is as popular as it is amongst non-shmup fans.

    I never really understood that. What is it about Ikaruga?
  • oh hey, I totally missed Space Dandy.

    whelp.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    childhood obesity
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Which one is Hitogata Happa?

    Anyway, there are some things a fair
    chunk of shmups do that is just bad game design. And the thing with
    communities like the shmup fandom (or to harp on a different point, and
    one I'm actually more familiar with, the platformer fandom) is that they
    tend to consider that just extra "challenge", which it's not.
    Hitogata Happa is the only vertical game in the Gundemonium series, and it encourages players to hurl themselves at enemies and die repeatedly, in order to get enough points to stay alive. ^_^

    In my experience, the shmup fandom has a refined taste, hence the unpopularity of certain early-1990s "euroshmups."
  • Miko said:

    Also Ikaruga is accessible, which is one of the reasons it is as popular as it is amongst non-shmup fans.

    I never really understood that. What is it about Ikaruga?
    It's got an interesting gameplay mechanic that isn't directly related to its being a shmup (the color-swapping), it's easy-ish compared to other shmups that came out around the same time period (including immediate predecessor Radiant Silvergun) meaning that an average person is more likely to be able to beat it, and it's very very pretty-looking.
  • Miko said:

    Which one is Hitogata Happa?

    Anyway, there are some things a fair
    chunk of shmups do that is just bad game design. And the thing with
    communities like the shmup fandom (or to harp on a different point, and
    one I'm actually more familiar with, the platformer fandom) is that they
    tend to consider that just extra "challenge", which it's not.
    Hitogata Happa is the only vertical game in the Gundemonium series, and it encourages players to hurl themselves at enemies and die repeatedly, in order to get enough points to stay alive. ^_^

    In my experience, the shmup fandom has a refined taste, hence the unpopularity of certain early-1990s "euroshmups."
    Those (mostly German made that often had you with a healthbar to make up for unavoidable damage) are bad too, but that is not really what I was talking about.
  • This avatar is a blast from the past.
  • Kexruct said:

    This avatar is a blast from the past.

    is that sgop's old avatar? :/
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.

    Miko said:

    Also Ikaruga is accessible, which is one of the reasons it is as popular as it is amongst non-shmup fans.

    I never really understood that. What is it about Ikaruga?
    It's got an interesting gameplay mechanic that isn't directly related to its being a shmup (the color-swapping), it's easy-ish compared to other shmups that came out around the same time period (including immediate predecessor Radiant Silvergun) meaning that an average person is more likely to be able to beat it, and it's very very pretty-looking.
    ah :o but I could say the same about Espgaluda. :D
  • Kexruct said:

    This avatar is a blast from the past.

    is that sgop's old avatar? :/
    Who?

    No, it was the mockup card I made for the Heap trading card game thread.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Those (mostly German made that often had you with a healthbar to make up
    for unavoidable damage) are bad too, but that is not really what I was
    talking about.
    I'm curious. ^_^
  • Also there's a thing amongst a certain kind of gamer in general that there is a linear correlation between a game being hard and a game being good, which just isn't true. There are a lot of good games that are hard, but there are also some really bad ones, and some very good games that are easy (like Antichamber).
  • edited 2014-01-12 00:09:40

    ok you know i said i was gonna stop talking about this

    but he like barely mentioned Avicii and that annoys me

    because, while i genuinely do not generally have really strong negative opinions on music, Avicii's Wake Me Up is...

    well

    To be blunt it is the least pleasant thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Out of all of the music I have ever heard, it is my least favorite.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I get bored with easy games more quickly. >_> But if I think a game is hard because it's unfair or badly designed then I will stop. :3
  • edited 2014-01-12 00:10:53

    actually scratch that it's like evenly tied with at least 80% of indie rock and country
  • Miko said:

    Those (mostly German made that often had you with a healthbar to make up
    for unavoidable damage) are bad too, but that is not really what I was
    talking about.
    I'm curious. ^_^
    At the risk of pissing you off, I am referring to a large-ish selection of Japanese "uber-hard" shmups that seem to exist for the sole perusal of a very specific kind of player.

    There is nothing wrong with appealing to a niche audience but I'm of the fairly firm belief that a reasonable amount of practice should be enough for me to beat any game. Some of the more difficult shmups require weeks to months of practice, and I do consider that bad game design. Challenge is different from masochism (which, incidentally, "masochistic" as a buzzword has always bothered me).
  • Miko said:

    I get bored with easy games more quickly. >_>

    What about Yume Nikki? The actual gameplay component is stupidly easy.
  • ok you know i said i was gonna stop talking about this


    but he like barely mentioned Avicii and that annoys me

    because, while i genuinely do not generally have really strong negative opinions on music, Avicii's Wake Me Up is...

    well

    To be blunt it is the least pleasant thing I have ever heard in my entire life. Out of all of the music I have ever heard, it is my least favorite.
    "Wake Me Up" sounds a lot like the gentrified christian pop versions of "You Raise Me Up" that I have heard.

    I don't care for it either.
  • Kexruct said:

    Kexruct said:

    This avatar is a blast from the past.

    is that sgop's old avatar? :/
    Who?

    No, it was the mockup card I made for the Heap trading card game thread.
    sgop (or maybe it was sgut?) was a troper who had an avatar somewhat similar to that.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i remember that card
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    goin to bed
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    GODDAMNIT STOP ENDING DISCUSSIONS I WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Todd is pretty entertaining.

    He is a rockist who hates fun though, so you have to deal with that.
  • Odradek said:

    GODDAMNIT STOP ENDING DISCUSSIONS I WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN

    no
  • also I feel like I may have offended Miko.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    He's been getting more douchey lately, dunno why.
  • Odradek said:

    Todd is pretty entertaining.

    He is a rockist who hates fun though, so you have to deal with that.

    I was tempted to respond to this but this discussion is over sorry
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I mean his criticisms of Holy Grail made some sense, but he still seemed like a douche in that review.
  • Kexruct said:

    Kexruct said:

    This avatar is a blast from the past.

    is that sgop's old avatar? :/
    Who?

    No, it was the mockup card I made for the Heap trading card game thread.
    sgop (or maybe it was sgut?) was a troper who had an avatar somewhat similar to that.
    I looked up both and came up with nothing. Now I'm confused.
  • I wanna talk about somethin'.

    I don't like actually playing Dwarf Fortress (it's nearly impossible to play anyway) but I like reading about the stupid shit people do in it.
  • tbh i probably would have enjoyed this dude at 15-16

    but now i'm just thinking he should kinda grow up because he sounds like a 15-16 year old
  • Kexruct said:

    Kexruct said:

    Kexruct said:

    This avatar is a blast from the past.

    is that sgop's old avatar? :/
    Who?

    No, it was the mockup card I made for the Heap trading card game thread.
    sgop (or maybe it was sgut?) was a troper who had an avatar somewhat similar to that.
    I looked up both and came up with nothing. Now I'm confused.
    it was a random jumble of four lowercase letters that started with an S, don't worry about it.
  • I wanna talk about somethin'.

    I don't like actually playing Dwarf Fortress (it's nearly impossible to play anyway) but I like reading about the stupid shit people do in it.

    I know nothing of Dwarf Fortress

    bestow upon me your knowledge
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    NOW MY OPINIONS

    Nostalgia Critic: Funnier than people think, if you remember he's a silly cartoon character and are okay with it.

    Nostalgia Chick: A little smug, but smart and well-spoken.

    Obscurus Lupa: Awesome, no big complaints.

    Todd: See above

    Rap Critic: I enjoy him, but Mojave doesn't and he knows more about rap soooooooo

    Oancitizen: Very good, but could stand to beat himself up publically less.

    Cinema Snob: Funny, but has some qualities associated with the more irritating parts of nerd-dom.

    Spoony: We don't talk about Spoony anymore.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Also just so you know, this is less funny than when Naney got traumatized by Film Brain.
  • Odradek said:


    Rap Critic: I enjoy him, but Mojave doesn't and he knows more about rap soooooooo
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  • Film Brain is okay for entertainment once you get past his voice. He's a lot better when he's not exaggerating himself.
  • I wanna talk about somethin'.

    I don't like actually playing Dwarf Fortress (it's nearly impossible to play anyway) but I like reading about the stupid shit people do in it.

    I know nothing of Dwarf Fortress

    bestow upon me your knowledge
    bestowed
  • I wanna talk about somethin'.

    I don't like actually playing Dwarf Fortress (it's nearly impossible to play anyway) but I like reading about the stupid shit people do in it.

    I know nothing of Dwarf Fortress

    bestow upon me your knowledge
    bestowed
    I'm only on the title and i know this is gonna be good
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