i don't think expressing a less than positive opinion of religion is automatically antitheism? maybe it is, i dunno
sometimes i don't know what to believe
i feel out of place among the born-again types in the Christian Union
the church here feels so loving and welcoming, but i've been slightly uncomfortable there ever since i realized how little of my religion i actually understand
And yes, I get that your complaining about what religion has done to you is in no way equivalent to all the harm it's done, but it's my faith that you're complaining about and that actually hurts me quite a bit.
Why do you take it so personally when someone says something negative about an opinion that you have?
i don't think expressing a less than positive opinion of religion is automatically antitheism? maybe it is, i dunno
It's not, but at the same time I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some people to get a tad offended when expressing such opinions, especially since "religion" in the context of these discussions rarely means anything other than "Christianity, sometimes Islam too, when it's convenient."
That is not me saying that you are necessarily using the word that way, mind you, but merely that that is how such discussions are often unintentionally framed in the english-speaking world (and many other parts of the western world) where there is a very sizable Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox majority.
But now I've sidetracked into talking about how discussing religion as a topic at all is often futile, which wasn't our topic.
And yes, I get that your complaining about what religion has done to you is in no way equivalent to all the harm it's done, but it's my faith that you're complaining about and that actually hurts me quite a bit.
Why do you take it so personally when someone says something negative about an opinion that you have?
Faith isn't an opinion, Miko.
At least not necessarily.
There are generally two types of religious people, the intellectually religious, and the more traditional, "in their bones" faithful. To the latter, faith is not a matter of personal preference but rather an inherent part of one's being, not dissimilar to their race or sexual orientation.
To the former, of course, this is different. But we're not speaking about the former.
And yes, I get that your complaining about what religion has done to you is in no way equivalent to all the harm it's done, but it's my faith that you're complaining about and that actually hurts me quite a bit.
Why do you take it so personally when someone says something negative about an opinion that you have?
Because my opinions are integral to who I am. You can't say something negative about my opinions without insulting me.
All bearded white men from paintings look the same to me, is that racist
yes.
actually given how a lot of racism comes from the way that the human brain groups people based on appearance in relation to oneself (*at least this is the impression that i get*) this might actually be kinda related to how racism works
All bearded white men from paintings look the same to me, is that racist
yes.
actually given how a lot of racism comes from the way that the human brain groups people based on appearance in relation to oneself (*at least this is the impression that i get*) this might actually be kinda related to how racism works
Luckily I was being facetious.
Although I have heard that the argument you refer to is one concocted by racism apologists, so maybe it is also bullshit.
It's kind of hard to read "religion might not be so hot" as anything other than antireligious.
Maybe I am too sensitive, I dunno. But you guys know that this is important to me.
Honestly Kexruct, I am a devout Christian myself (as I sometimes bring up) and even I think you're being too sensitive right now.
Granted, I consider myself entirely nondenominational and thus many criticisms of the various Churches specifically do not sting as hard on me as they might on say, my mother, who is a fervent Catholic. That said, I feel you are taking at best a brushing off of organized capital-C Christianity as an attack on yourself, when it is not meant to be.
Furthermore, Antitheism as a term generally implies some type of malice on the part of the person it is ascribed to, even if that is not actually part of the definition of the word.
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sometimes i don't know what to believe
i feel out of place among the born-again types in the Christian Union
the church here feels so loving and welcoming, but i've been slightly uncomfortable there ever since i realized how little of my religion i actually understand
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That is not me saying that you are necessarily using the word that way, mind you, but merely that that is how such discussions are often unintentionally framed in the english-speaking world (and many other parts of the western world) where there is a very sizable Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox majority.
But now I've sidetracked into talking about how discussing religion as a topic at all is often futile, which wasn't our topic. Faith isn't an opinion, Miko.
At least not necessarily.
There are generally two types of religious people, the intellectually religious, and the more traditional, "in their bones" faithful. To the latter, faith is not a matter of personal preference but rather an inherent part of one's being, not dissimilar to their race or sexual orientation.
To the former, of course, this is different. But we're not speaking about the former.
i mean it's good to stand up for your beliefs but there is such a thing as being too easily offended
(i wasn't responding to you)
All bearded white men from paintings look the same to me, is that racist
Although I have heard that the argument you refer to is one concocted by racism apologists, so maybe it is also bullshit.
'Tis hard to tell though. Honestly Kexruct, I am a devout Christian myself (as I sometimes bring up) and even I think you're being too sensitive right now.
Granted, I consider myself entirely nondenominational and thus many criticisms of the various Churches specifically do not sting as hard on me as they might on say, my mother, who is a fervent Catholic. That said, I feel you are taking at best a brushing off of organized capital-C Christianity as an attack on yourself, when it is not meant to be.
Furthermore, Antitheism as a term generally implies some type of malice on the part of the person it is ascribed to, even if that is not actually part of the definition of the word.
the picture took me a moment to figure what was even happening