The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • The sadness will last forever.
    larpers
  • TreTre
    edited 2013-12-18 00:13:11
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    on our fixation on horrible people: I try not to make that a big focus unless I have a somewhat valid reason to be affected by them (like how I mentioned TenNapel earlier-- I was nostalgic for Catscratch but hearing about him harshed my mellow on the show) or if it's the topic at hand

    then again, I may very well be lying out my ass right now, so if I am feel free to point that out and laugh at me for being dumb
  • I'm kind of obsessed with the Dina case because, as I've mentioned before, I am technically in the same category as her pitiful detractors and that gives me a personal stake in the issue. I apologize; I'll stop being obsessed as soon as possible.

    Also, Mo, the thing has been done.
  • You are not obliged to lump yourself in with a bunch of knuckleheaded misanthropic sexists because you backed the same kickstarter project as them.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    misanthropic girls
  • The sadness will last forever.
    ladies against the human race
  • The sadness will last forever.
    flubbers
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Pillows said:

    Too bad I come here to post my nonsense and hug Miko and look at silly things.

    :D
  • The sadness will last forever.
    leaving in the end
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    It's time to grow up just a little, Gamer Guys™!
  • Miko said:

    Gamer Guys™!

    I envision a knockoff Youtube channel starring Game Grumps lookalikes.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    but when you grow up you have to pay taxes
  • edited 2013-12-18 00:29:05
    So I actually just went and watched all 21 minutes of that video.

    And I posted three Youtube comments on it.  They're a bit spaced apart by the comment system, for some reason, but pick newest comments view and you'll find them quickly.  In case they ever get deleted, you can enjoy them here.

    I generally gloss over stuff I don't like; the only reason I sat through this video was to chronicle all the "evidence" that he cites and write up a reply to every bit of it, because I heard it contained the rantings of someone who was legitly bugged by this whole thing, rather than just secondhand descriptions of people who were bugged by it.

    Fun fact: the first time I saw this video, I closed the tab in two minutes because I got tired of his excessive exaggerative sarcasm.  It was not "I hate this", it was "I'm bored with this, let's go do something else".  Sorry, haters.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    destroying taxes
  • The sadness will last forever.
    eh.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    disagree with me

    well ur just a male in disguise

    no woman can think like that
  • The sadness will last forever.
    4thpost
  • You are not obliged to lump yourself in with a bunch of knuckleheaded misanthropic sexists because you backed the same kickstarter project as them.

    Look, the Mighty No 9 project is obsessed about the importance of the kickstarter community. Like, really obsessed. 

    That Mighty No. that I used when making those false letters? That was assigned to me as my number. That's my order in the kickstarter. As a forum member, it's as important in identifying me as the username I chose. Heck, we got Dina's Mighty No. along with her name when the announcement of her as community manager was first made.  It has the same effect as dogtags in the army or a handshake in a social group. It marks you as a member of that group. And if the number doesn't get you, the constant admonitions to join the forum and be a part of the game will. 

    Ultimately, the kickstarter crowd is supposed to be responsible for the game. It's supposed to represent our ideas of what a Megaman successor game should be as much as it represents the visions of the creators. That's the whole point of the forum that was temporarily turned into a hateblog against a feminist: to serve as a place to host ideas.

    And as such, the people responsible for turning the forum into a hateblog against a feminist are going to be involved in the game that I invested in. And I'm not really comfortable with that, just like they're not comfortable with Dina becoming community manager. And unlike Dina, who is merely a community manager, they form a notable faction of the community. Sure, many of them will be abandoning the project because they're jerks, but some of them will be staying and leaking their terrible opinions into the game. And that's terrible.

    Look, long story short, there were promises of this being something better than typical internet stupidity, and I'm disappointed by the rampant devolution into typical internet stupidity.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    easeling
  • The sadness will last forever.
    the internet is a shitlord
  • THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS
    Yarrun: It's like expecting a quality Mega-like game, then getting something that looks like it was run through a SBaHJ filter. :P
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    consumer product tie-ins
  • You are not obliged to lump yourself in with a bunch of knuckleheaded misanthropic sexists because you backed the same kickstarter project as them.

    Look, the Mighty No 9 project is obsessed about the importance of the kickstarter community. Like, really obsessed. 

    That Mighty No. that I used when making those false letters? That was assigned to me as my number. That's my order in the kickstarter. As a forum member, it's as important in identifying me as the username I chose. Heck, we got Dina's Mighty No. along with her name when the announcement of her as community manager was first made.  It has the same effect as dogtags in the army or a handshake in a social group. It marks you as a member of that group. And if the number doesn't get you, the constant admonitions to join the forum and be a part of the game will. 

    Ultimately, the kickstarter crowd is supposed to be responsible for the game. It's supposed to represent our ideas of what a Megaman successor game should be as much as it represents the visions of the creators. That's the whole point of the forum that was temporarily turned into a hateblog against a feminist: to serve as a place to host ideas.

    And as such, the people responsible for turning the forum into a hateblog against a feminist are going to be involved in the game that I invested in. And unlike Dina, who is merely a community manager, they form a notable faction of the community. Sure, many of them will be abandoning the project because they're jerks, but some of them will be staying and leaking their terrible opinions into the game. And that's terrible.

    Look, long story short, there were promises of this being something better than typical internet stupidity, and I'm disappointed by the rampant devolution into typical internet stupidity.
    Dude I hate to be "that guy" but literally 0% of that is going to matter once the game is actually out.

    How much a kickstarter matters to a game is totally binary. Either a game gets funded on kickstarter or it does not. It is very, very rare for things that happen during a kickstarter campaign to actually affect a game's success or reputation afterward. Most of what is promised during said kickstarter campaign is marketing ploy, and that includes the "strong community".

    Risk of Rain and Our Darker Purpose are only just beginning to get communities now, despite having been playable in kickstarter-funded early access builds for months (in the case of the former, almost a year).
  • The sadness will last forever.
    tie-ins to old movies
  • > Look, long story short, there were promises of this being something
    better than typical internet stupidity, and I'm disappointed by the
    rampant devolution into typical internet stupidity.

    And this is why I care about the project (which I backed too) and that's precisely why I'm wondering whether I should wade straight into the trenches personally.
  • I'm not telling you you're wrong to be upset, I'm just saying you should worry less.
  • time to play some Amihailu in Dreamland.
  • forward thinking streetwear
  • The sadness will last forever.
    fry milk
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    waterfalls
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Pillows I will sit under a waterfall with you :)
  • For once, or maybe twice, I was in my prime.
    Being upset at terrible people in a community you consider yourself part of, is understandable.
  • edited 2013-12-18 01:03:43
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I kind of wish that the MN9 community was like... cool, and not infantile. Touhou fans are really cool; why can't it be like that?
  • Miko, MetaFour, should I check out the MN9 forums?
  • There appear to be free cookies located in the nearby lounge.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Miko said:

    Pillows I will sit under a waterfall with you :)

    That would be good.

    Are Touhou fans really cool? I guess the few I've met have been good.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    FREE COOKIES
  • Some are cool.

    Others take the "eazy modo" thing too seriously.

    A select few are terrible people.
  • Little-known secret:

    I use continues and autobomb when playing shmups!
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.

    Miko, MetaFour, should I check out the MN9 forums?

    I'm afraid to go in there because of the things I hear. ^_^;
    Pillows said:

    Miko said:

    Pillows I will sit under a waterfall with you :)

    That would be good.

    Are Touhou fans really cool? I guess the few I've met have been good.
    :D Yes the Touhou fandom is the best fandom ever and there are no substitutes. It even has good youtube comments!! I thought those were fake!

    Some are cool.

    Others take the "eazy modo" thing too seriously.

    A select few are terrible people.

    pff anyone who makes fun of beginners is like 90% likely to be too cruddy themselves to clear Lunatic. You don't clear Lunatic unless you understand things, and if you understand things, you don't make fun of beginners. That said, I recommend Easy only as a tutorial of sorts, because it barely requires any skill at all, just knowledge of the game mechanics, and also lots of stuff is locked out on Easy mode.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    There is nothing wrong with auto-bombing, really, since shmups usually have some kind of trade-off for using it (i.e. a less powerful bomb, a bigger drain on resources, certain things unavailable, etc.). Continues are fine as well but when you use them, you aren't getting much of a score, so you aren't really climbing any scoreboards. Shmups are really designed to be played with a single credit, for score.
  • I generally start on normal mode.  Only easy if the game gets too annoying.  So I far I've used easy to get through two games (both non-shmups): An Untitled Story and Fortune Summoners.
  • > since shmups usually have some kind of trade-off for using it (i.e. a
    less powerful bomb, a bigger drain on resources, certain things
    unavailable, etc.).

    I got annoyed when I found out that having auto-bomb on means I can't fight the true final boss of eXceed 3rd.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    My first clears of Perfect Cherry Blossom and Imperishable Night were Easy mode, but I was totally new to shmups back then. I can't even imagine how I found it hard, but... somehow I did. :v
  • hey Miko
    is it true that Chinatsu Kagaya is a boy?
  • edited 2013-12-18 01:34:22
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    ^^^ There are no auto-bombs in Touhou and really it is only in the last several years that it has become a more common feature of danmaku games. :p Some designers think of it as making things too easy.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Patchouli
  • Miko, MetaFour, should I check out the MN9 forums?

    Like I said, it was a temporary transformation into a hateblog.

    There are parts of the forum that are still devoted to the realization of the game.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.

    hey Miko
    is it true that Chinatsu Kagaya is a boy?

    hmm, I wasn't aware of that, if it is true. :o
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