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  • speaking of Sicily "Tancred" is a great name and I wish it was more popular both historically and in general.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    @ Mo: you've got some good material there, if you can only expand those points where you say you need to expand it

    just a suggestion but you might want to keep the language more formal; some professors don't like contractions and such.  Instead of 'we have to get into the history of the term' maybe try something like 'we must consider the history of the term' - it sounds more academic, somehow.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    ah now see World War II interests me because of the enormous impact it had on people.  The Blitz is particularly interesting to me.

    History of war certainly can be interesting, like military technology and such.  In general what it was like to be a soldier is more interesting to me than who beat who and won what territory, which isn't the kind of information i retain easily unless it had some lasting impact (which, in fairness, it often did).

    Same.

    Though there is a really morbid, miserable part of me that finds the truly awful things that people do to each other... "interesting" is the wrong word. Maybe because it seems so alien to my own temperament and morality to even think of doing such things, yet I want to know why... yet I know that deep down, I probably don't. Maybe a preparation for death.

    Hmm.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    The status of women in different societies through history can be really fascinating, I think, when you compare it to how things were here even recently or are now. Consider that in the Kingdom of Sicily during the Low Middle Ages, women taught in colleges and worked as doctors, where in France and England they were, in many places, no better than property, particularly in the upper classes.


    Weapons are the shiznat. Especially swords and knives and things that stab!
    The Norman Kingdom of Sicily is an interesting place that I wish I knew more about.
    My mom reads a lot about that period in Europe. She has a kind of schoolgirl crush on Henry II.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    It's kind of humbling and very scary to think about how much of what you have is determined by chance.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Odradek said:

    It's kind of humbling and very scary to think about how much of what you have is determined by chance.

    Every god-damned day.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Odradek said:

    It's kind of humbling and very scary to think about how much of what you have is determined by chance.

    Every god-damned day.
    *hugs*
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    Man's inhumanity to man is something i can only stand to read about for short periods of time

    it's interesting, don't get me wrong, it's just so bloody depressing
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    *hugs*

    Thank you.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Tachyon said:

    Man's inhumanity to man is something i can only stand to read about for short periods of time

    it's interesting, don't get me wrong, it's just so bloody depressing

    Yes.

    Numbing, too. Like a trapdoor going out from under you, sometimes.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    like, the shock of learning about some atrocity you never knew happened?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    My mom told me about a person she met who's son got arrested for viewing child porn and is facing 15 years in jail. That guy is probably going to get off, but has to spend 30 days in solitary, and will have the charge on his record for the rest of his life. Now my mom is afraid one of us will accidentally click on a pop-up and get sent to jail. This probably won't happen, but it's a sobering thought at how easy it is to be brought low like that. And it's not just child pornography viewers that crazy stuff happens to.

    And then there's all those people in the Philippines who died from that hurricane...
  • alternate history fun facts from my current CK2 game:

    The Karlings (now di Carolingios after several centuries of being primarily an Italian family) have founded The Holy Roman Empire, and Charles VII of Italy (son of Robert The Spider, who founded Holy Rome) controls a number of vassal Kingdoms and Duchies (some of the more interesting inclusions are; the Kingdom of Jerusalem, The Kingdom of Greater Aragon and the Duchy of Lesser Aragon, and the Anglo-Saxon Petty Kingdom of Lanfranckland, in what we would recognize as Essex, there is also a Kingdom of Africa which controls Tripolitania). This makes him the ruler of all of Germany, Bavaria, parts of Aquitaine, Aragon, Croatia, western Hungary, North Africa, and of course Italy and Sicily.

    Byzantium is experiencing a renaissance after about a century as a fractured series of Kingdoms and Themes (duchies). It has two client kingdoms in Armenia and Taurica.

    France is a strong, unified power under Hugues III, and has been one of the most stable areas of Europe for almost a century.

    The British Isles are dominated by Skotland, a formerly Norse kingdom that has finally reformed under Catholicism after two hundred years of internal religious strife. It controls most of the British Isles (a handful of small independent areas that are still Anglo-Saxon aside) and parts of Scandinavia.

    The rest of Scandinavia is controlled by the pagan kingdoms of Lithuania and Rus. The two war often and exact borders shift frequently. The Golden Horde of the east is beginning to encroach on both, however.

    Poland serves as a barrier state between Christendom and the paganlands. It is ruled by a small Hungarian elite who fled that country after it became a vassal state of now declining Ilkhanate.

    Iberia is ruled mostly by the Holy Kingdom of Asturias. Founded by a number of Crusading Orders after the successful Andalusian Crusade of 1100, there are still a few pockets of Islam ruled by independant Emirates, but they continue to dwindle in number. For a time, the Kingdom was ruled by The Knights Templar, but the Ansurez dynasty has since made them a vassal.

    The Papal State has ceased to exist, and the Pope now rules from an enclave in lower Sicily after Pope Cosma's wars with King Francesco II of Italy several hundred years ago.
  • jeez the discussion got serious in here while I was typing that

    now I feel like a jackass.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    jeez the discussion got serious in here while I was typing that

    now I feel like a jackass.

    Yes, you are a jackass for making a big effort post to entertain us, not knowing we were getting emo.

    Don't be so hard on yourself, you're a cool guy.
  • Odradek said:

    jeez the discussion got serious in here while I was typing that

    now I feel like a jackass.

    Yes, you are a jackass for making a big effort post to entertain us, not knowing we were getting emo.

    Don't be so hard on yourself, you're a cool guy.
    well you know

    it's like one of those things where you feel like one even though you're not necessarily
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    what happened to Wales' mainland territory, Mo?
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I appreciated the distraction, Mo. I'm really getting depressed right now; your talk of alternate history entertains me. So I bear the very opposite of ill will.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    There are 5 year rappers now

    What a world
  • Tachyon said:

    what happened to Wales' mainland territory, Mo?

    That's a different AU entirely. Different game too actually, that was Europa Universalis 4, which is set in the Renaissance, as opposed to this game (Crusader Kings 2) which is set in the middle ages. The games are made by the same company and there's an official save converter from CK2 to EU4 so it's easy to get them confused, though.

    In that particular game (which I stopped playing because it got entirely too easy), Wales actually lost all of its Welsh territory that was in Wales and now exists exclusively as a French state.


  • DID SOMEONE SAY EMO?????
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I want a parallel world where the whole south of Great Britain speaks Cornish and Wessex English, complete with prefixed past participles and insane accents.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”



    DID SOMEONE SAY EMO?????
    YES.
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    There are 5 year rappers now


    What a world
    Wow, 5 whole years that are rappers? Who's the fourth, I only know 1983, 1022, 1857, and 867.

    Man, I didn't think anyone expected 1022 to be as good as he turned out to be.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    I mean 5 year old rappers
  • The sadness will last forever.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    Tachyon said:

    what happened to Wales' mainland territory, Mo?

    That's a different AU entirely. Different game too actually, that was Europa Universalis 4, which is set in the Renaissance, as opposed to this game (Crusader Kings 2) which is set in the middle ages. The games are made by the same company and there's an official save converter from CK2 to EU4 so it's easy to get them confused, though.

    In that particular game (which I stopped playing because it got entirely too easy), Wales actually lost all of its Welsh territory that was in Wales and now exists exclusively as a French state.
    oh, sorry, my mistake

    cool tho
  • here is a map for easy visuals

    image

    Skotland and Byzantium are currently undergoing civil wars for the crown, but those end quickly.
  • man what's with all the delay
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    I want a parallel world where the whole south of Great Britain speaks Cornish and Wessex English, complete with prefixed past participles and insane accents.

    b-b-but then i wouldnt be able to talk with you guys :(
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    I mean 5 year old rappers

    u mean just vanilla macklemore and eminem lolololololol

    *avengers gifs*
  • edited 2013-11-10 17:23:13
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    You know, I can't talk smack about the Chinese the way I talk smack about the Cajuns; even though the American Alligator is much less endangered than the Chinese.  It'd be all racist-like to talk smack about the chinese like that.  And I really can't talk smack about rice farmers, you guys would get ticked at me (the only time you guys would take an agrarian's side).

    Because talking about how you're going to go beat up the folks from Swamp People is a lot easier than saying how you're going to go to China and beat up those people who are being mean to the Chinese Alligator.

    Anyways, brb gonna flood New York City and turn it into a swamp for my Alligator brethren.  What?  You don't like it?  Well, humans aren't endangered, so too bad.


    And anyways, Yarrun still hasn't read The King's Shadow, leaving me to wonder whether that book really exists or if I hallucinated it and all the references to it on the internet are make up by people to make me feel non-insane. 
  • Given the political composition of Great Britian in my AU, I imagine most people on the island either speak what I'm going to call Skottish, a derivative of Old Norse if I had to guess, or what I'll call Lanfranckish, which is probably a mixture of old Anglo-Saxon, German, and Italian, since Lanfranckland (that little grey area in the corner of England) is lorded over by a German and Italian elite. Including Lanfranco Ashridge, who is the 5-year old king.
  • I never got the appeal of 1022, to be honest. Sounds too much like Waka Flocka. Even 1987 sounds better.
  • waka flocka is the realest rapper alive
  • edited 2013-11-10 17:25:51
    My dreams exceed my real life
    Aliroz said:

    And anyways, Yarrun still hasn't read The King's Shadow, leaving me to wonder whether that book really exists or if I hallucinated it and all the references to it on the internet are make up by people to make me feel non-insane. 

    I still refuse to believe The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure is something I really experienced.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    here is a map for easy visuals

    image

    Skotland and Byzantium are currently undergoing civil wars for the crown, but those end quickly.

    What's that at the top of Scotland?
  • The sadness will last forever.
    chinese womyn
  • here is a map for easy visuals

    image

    Skotland and Byzantium are currently undergoing civil wars for the crown, but those end quickly.

    What's that at the top of Scotland?
    The Jarldom of Moray. Moray and Orkno to be more accurate.

    It's part of Skotland normally, but there's a civil war going on.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    wocka flocka
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Aliroz said:

    You know, I can't talk smack about the Chinese the way I talk smack about the Cajuns; even though the American Alligator is much less endangered than the Chinese.  It'd be all racist-like to talk smack about the chinese like that.  And I really can't talk smack about rice farmers, you guys would get ticked at me (the only time you guys would take an agrarian's side).


    you know, i don't much like being stereotyped or having words put into my mouth
  • The sadness will last forever.
    tocharians
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    they have slain the Jarl of Moray

    and Lady Mondegreen
  • The sadness will last forever.
    half asian half white girls
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    image
  • The sadness will last forever.
    worst rapping of all time
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    ghost doggeh?
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    My friend said that PC gaming is the new PS2, and I responded that XBLIG is the new Action 52
  • The sadness will last forever.
    doge as a japanese word
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    mammies
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