The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i am not a Cartesian dualist

    i am a disgusting hairy blob of organic matter that's somehow able to form sentences
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    i am unfamiliar with this tradition

    the important thing about Daleks is that they are hateful, unreasonable, relentlessly murderous, and much much stronger and smarter than most other species

    if they could be defeated by flights of stairs that would detract from the threat somewhat

    Oh, and "Aim for the Eye-stalk, that's the weak point" doesn't detract from the threat?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    well ok they are kind of comical with their vision impaired

    the problem with the Daleks is that their whole point is to be menacing and seemingly unstoppable, but at the same time the Doctor has to win

    it means over time they appear progressively more and more incompetent, so every once in a while they revamp them or show them successfully killing a bunch of people in order to remind viewers that they're actually really dangerous
  • edited 2013-10-30 13:02:13
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    well ok they are kind of comical with their vision impaired

    the problem with the Daleks is that their whole point is to be menacing and seemingly unstoppable, but at the same time the Doctor has to win

    it means over time they appear progressively more and more incompetent, so every once in a while they revamp them or show them successfully killing a bunch of people in order to remind viewers that they're actually really dangerous

    Yeah, I mean, we all love the Daleks, with their design, and their voices, they're so great.  But they have to lose, so yeah, the more we see them, the more we see them lose and the less scary they are.

    That's why I like the "Crap!  Run for the stairs/Tardis/escape-route" portrayal, where the Doctor winning is the Doctor escaping alive.

    I also like the Cybermen, they're pretty darn great, too; and the Ice Warriors; they should be brought back; what's up with that?

    I mean, they used to be one of the main antagonists.

    I guess, in this case, the Doctor actually succeeded in his Genocide, for once.

    Also, the "Everyday object trying to kill you" is fun.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    See, there's this tradition that sez "the eyes are the windows of the soul" or some such and looking at eyes is supposed to be all deep and romantic and whatnot. But if I look at someone's eyes, all I see is...

    image

    not literally, but kinda like that, y'know? It's like I'm looking at the face of a robot.

    Something is wrong with me
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    @ Aliroz: There was an Ice Warrior in the recent episode "Cold War".

    the new Doctor Who isn't perfect, but it's an enjoyable continuation of the series
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Melusina said:

    See, there's this tradition that sez "the eyes are the windows of the soul" or some such and looking at eyes is supposed to be all deep and romantic and whatnot. But if I look at someone's eyes, all I see is...

    image

    not literally, but kinda like that, y'know? It's like I'm looking at the face of a robot.

    Something is wrong with me

    actually, i kinda get that

    i almost wish i could see the world that way, it seems somehow more honest

    instead i'm like 'THEY'RE LOOKING AT ME', which is just scary
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    well, having robot eyes looking at you isn't necessarily non-scary
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    oh, right

    i guess not
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    image
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    and now we're back in the uncanny valley

    i see what you mean
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i feel cowardly and mean
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    off to work I go

    I leave you with a drunken frenzy


  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    bye Pillows
  • im here im sleepy
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    hi
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    image
  • im eating soup and looking at pomades

    i'm tempted to get some murray's, but i'd prefer something water-soluble...
  • murray's
    image

    since when do sea dragons make hair products?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    tbh i thought of Murray's mints but was too embarrassed by my lack of hair product knowledge to say so
  • well, he's not a sea dragon anymore

    image

    more like a king prawn, really

    -rimshot-
  • edited 2013-10-30 14:00:10

    embarrassed by my lack of hair product knowledge

    there are many things one should know plenty about, but hair products are not one of them
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    image

    yay!
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    embarrassed by my lack of hair product knowledge

    there are many things one should know plenty about, but hair products are not one of them
    well, ok then
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    I don't experience uncanny valley and I don't see things in people's eyes because autism spectrum.

    Same here.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Re: eyes: I can't make eye contact for more than just a few seconds. I just can't. It feels...I dunno, almost like some kind of burning, like their eyes are searing into me.

    Fortunately, I've found that if you look at somebody's nose or ear while they speak, it's good enough to fake eye contact.
  • same

    my endurance for it is longer than it was when i was younger but still, I can only really always look into people's eyes if they're my family or my friends

    otherwise it's kind of like that one GIF on Tumblr of Jade from Homestuck waking up and expanding her eyes to fill up her glasses
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Spoiler:
    If B = the square root of {(B*A*D)/C}

    Than A^2 + B^2 + C^2 + D^2

    is <[(A+D)*(A+D)] + [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]>

    But why?

    Well, the reason is as follows

    If B = the square root of {(B*A*D)/C}

    Than B^2 = (B*A*D)/C

    and dividing both sides by B

    (B^2)/B = [{B*A*D)/C]/B

    or  B = (B*A*D)/(C*B)

    or B = (A*D)/C

    so

    B*C = (C*A*D)/C

    or B*C = A*D

    Now, knowing B*C = A*D

    then what is is <[(A+D)*(A+D)] + [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]>

    Well, <[(A+D)*(A+D)] + [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]> is

    is is <[(A*A + A*D + D*A + D*D] + [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]>

    <[(A*A + A*D + D*A + D*D] + [{(Bi-Ci)} * {(-Bi+Ci)}]>

    <[(A^2 + 2AD + D^2] + [{(Bi-Ci)} * {(-Bi+Ci)}]>

    <[(A^2 + 2AD + D^2] + [{(Bi-Ci)} * {(Ci-Bi)}]>

    <[(A^2 + 2AD + D^2] + [(Bi-Ci)*(Ci-Bi)]>

    <[(A^2 + 2AD + D^2] + [(Bi-Ci)*(Ci-Bi)]>

    Let's figure out what the blue part is

    so

    [(Bi-Ci)*(Ci-Bi)]

    is Bi*(Ci-Bi) - Ci(Ci-Bi)

    (Bi * Ci) + [(Bi *-Bi)] + [(-Ci*Ci)] + (-Ci*-Bi)

    (BC *i^2) + [-(B^2) * i^2)] + [-(C^2) * i^2] + (CB * i^2)

    since i^2 = -1

    (BC *-1) + [-(B^2) *-1)] + [-(C^2) * -1] + (CB * -1)

    or (-BC) + [(B^2)] + [(C^2)] + (-CB)

    since CB = BC

    is (-BC) + [(B^2)] + [(C^2)] + (-CB)

    is (-BC) + [(B^2)] + [(C^2)] + (-BC)

    or B^2 +C^2 - 2BC

    But what is <[(A^2 + 2AD + D^2] + [(Bi-Ci)*(Ci-Bi)]> also written as <[(A+D)*(A+D)] + [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]>


    so [(Bi-Ci)*(Ci-Bi)]>  is B^2 +C^2 - 2BC

    so <[(A^2 + 2AD + D^2] + [(Bi-Ci)*(Ci-Bi)]> 

    is <[(A^2 + D^2 + 2AD] + [B^2 +C^2 - 2BC]>

    so we have A^2 + D^2 + B^2 + C^2 + 2AD - 2BC

    And since we know from earlier that B*C = A*D

    and B*C can be written as BC; and A*D can be written as AD

    BC = AD

    so AD = BC

    so 2AD = 2BC

    so 2AD - 2BC = 0

    so A^2 + D^2 + B^2 + C^2 + (2AD - 2BC)

    is A^2 + D^2 + B^2 + C^2 + (0)

    or A^2+ B^2+ C^2 + D^2

    and since A^2+ B^2+ C^2 + D^2 is equal to <[(A^2 + 2AD + D^2] + [(Bi-Ci)*(Ci-Bi)]>

    which is <[(A+D)*(A+D)] + [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]>

    than A^2+ B^2+ C^2 + D^2 is equal to <[(A+D)*(A+D)] + [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]>

    so, we can conclude that when B*C = A*D;

    which is the same as when B = the square root of {(B*A*D)/C}

    than A^2+ B^2+ C^2 + D^2 is equal to <[(A+D)*(A+D)] + [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]>

    So, if we count both i and -i as square roots of negative one; than [{i(B-C)} * {-i(B-C)}]>

    is
    [{square root of negative one(B-C)} * {other square root of negative one(B-C)}]>

    so <[(A+D)*(A+D)] + [{square root of negative one(B-C)} * {other square root of negative one(B-C)}]> = [(A+D)^2] + [{square root of negative one(B-C)}^2]

    and both of these are equal to A^2+ B^2+ C^2 + D^2

    So, when B = the square root of {(B*A*D)/C};

    and B, C, A, and D are whole numbers

    A^2+ B^2+ C^2 + D^2 can be written as the sum of two squares (but one of the squares will involve imaginary numbers)

    So yeah, the sum of four squares can be written as the sum of two squares.

    Now, if you want me to find A^3 + B^3 = C^3

    then no.  I'm not gonna.

  • Rayman said:

    abridged?

    blind idiot translated, japanese to chinese to english
  • Cartoon Hangover

    Too <INSERT ADJECTIVE HERE.> for TV
  • edited 2013-10-30 14:45:21
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    And no, don't anybody go all


    but wait, Aliroz

    i does not equal -i

    even though they are both the square root of negative one.

    by that logic 6 + the square root of nine

    is 6 + the square root of nine

    is 6 + 3   or      6 + -3
    is 9            or       3

    so 9 = 3

    Doesn't work that way.

    You can't go all "(9 * 3)

    is (6 plus the square root of nine) times (6 plus the square root of nine)

    so is (6 plus the square root of nine) squared

    so 27 is a square number; and its square root is (6 plus the square root of nine)"

    Because that's stupid.
    Well, I say to all you people who would say that, that ummm, go look over there!  It's a solution to the Reimann hypothesis!

    -runs away-



  • Riemann noodles
  • The sadness will last forever.
    hummusbars
  • The sadness will last forever.
    eating ramen is the last resort
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Where's ponicalica when you need him
  • I see

    MATH
  • fact: my hair is the best thing about me
  • edited 2013-10-30 15:29:31
    The sadness will last forever.
    dressing up as a viking when i have no viking blood
  • The sadness will last forever.
    happy pagans
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I wish people gave me free video games
  • edited 2013-10-30 15:43:48
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    The thing about math, is that when I put it into all those huge steps; each step should be clear and understandable; and you should be able to see how I got from each one to the next, and to each one from the one before.  That if the thing I suppose at the beginning is true; then everything after would also be true; right up to the end.
    Spoiler:


    So, A+24 = 35

    supposing that 24 = 24; that 10 + 25 = 35

    and that if X = Y; than X-24 = Y-24

    then A+24 = 35 means

    that (A + 24) - 24 = (35) - 24

    and supposing that 24 - 24 = 0

    Then A +0 = (10 + 25)- 24; and supposing that 24 + 1 = 25

    then A +0 = ( 10 + 1 + 24) -24; and supposing that A +0 = A

    then A = (10 + 1)

    So, 24-24 = 0; that is inarguable.  A + 0 = A, also inarguable.  if X = Y; than X-24 = Y-24; also inarguable.  That 24 = 24 is inarguable.

    Now, the problem here is that we have to establish the following two; which are not inarguable.

     10 + 25 = 35

    24 + 1 = 25

    Let's start with the second one.  Imagine that you don't know what 24 and 25 are.

    Since if X = Y; than X-1 = Y-1

    than if 24 + 1 = 25; but we haven't resolved that into an inarguable equation (like 24 = 24)

    it means that (24 + 1) - 1 = (25) - 1

    so 24 = 25 - 1

    so if X = Y; than X-24 = Y-24

    so (24) - 24 = (25 - 1) - 24

    and since 24-24 = 0; than

    0 = (25 - 1) - 24

    and since where X - 24 = 0; X = 24 because 24 - 24 = 0

    So, if 0 = (25 - 1) - 24; then it is inarguable that 25 - 1 = 24; because if 0 = X-Y, than X = Y

    so, 24 - 24 = 0 = (25-1)-24

    then 25 - 1 = 24;

    so we get (24-24 = 24-24 = 0) which is inarguable.

     and since if X=Y; than X+1 = Y+1

    (25-1)+1 = (24)+1; and since X+1-1 = X

    25 = 24 + 1; that is now inarguable.

    All that remains is for us to prove that 10 + 1 = 11

    so, by if X = Y than X-1 = Y-1

    (10 + 1)-1 = 11-1

    10 = 11 - 1; and since X-X = 0; and when X=Y; X-X=Y-X=0  so when X=Y, X-Y + 0

    (10-10) = (11-1)-10

    0 = (11-1)-10; and since if Y-X = 0; then Y must = X

    11-1 inarguably equals 10; so by if X=Y than X+1 = Y+1

    (11-1)+1 = (10) + 1; and by -1 + 1 + 0

    11 + 0 = 10 + 1; and by the inarguable X+0 =X

    11= 10+1; and this is inarguable.

    So, with all the things we suppose being inarguable, and following the same logic throughout, we can conclude safely that when

    A+24 = 35

    then A=(10+1); and since we know inarguably that (10+1) = 11; and since we know that when X = Y and Y = G, then X = G

    we know that A=11.


    But nooo, the trick with math is that mathematicians go straight from A+24=35 and get to A=11; without any of the steps in between.  The beginning, which is A+24=35; is like a cliff; and the end, which is A=11; is like another cliff.

    When you use the proofs correctly, using the inarguable tenets (X=X, X-1=X-1, X-X=0, and so on); it is a bridge connecting the cliffs; a straight pathway on which you can walk and not fall.  Even the people who aren't considering themselves to be very good at math can still walk your bridge and get from A+24=35 to A=11; without falling.They can follow you; and see why the answer is what it is.  You could only show some of the inarguable proofs and condense others; but then following you requires more effort; and some people must be considered to be like snakes.  A bridge where you have to jump to get past missing sections might be okay for most people, but not for snakes, who are not noted for jumping but are just as agile as anybody (even those not good at math can still be as smart as anybody). 

    But mathematicians go straight from one cliff to the other, without steps or bridges; and then laugh at the snakes for not being able to follow them.

    It's not that the snakes are incapable of getting from one cliff to the other.  And maybe the snakes don't want to go on your bridge, and that's okay. 

    Spoiler:


    But for me to go all: when B = the square root of {(B*A*D)/C};

    and B, C, A, and D are whole numbers

    A^2+ B^2+ C^2 + D^2 can be written as the sum of two squares (but one of the squares will involve imaginary numbers)


    and expect everyone to instantly understand why; and the logic involved, and the math involved; would be wrong.

    Now, if you're writing for mathematicians, who can leap and skip along the bridge, you might only have to include one out of ten of the proofs.

    But saying that people are dumb for not being able to get

    "A^2+ B^2+ C^2 + D^2 can be written as the sum of two squares (but one of the squares will involve imaginary numbers)" from "when B = the square root of {(B*A*D)/C}; and B, C, A, and D are whole numbers"

    would be like being saying that people who speak and read Swahili but don't understand Nahuatl are illiterate.  Provide a translation when your audience doesn't read your language.  When your audience understands your language, you can go on with the jargon and the skipped steps as you please.


    If your audience understands Pig Latin but not Morse Code; it doesn't mean they are ignorant of cryptography.  If your audience understands Morse, it is appropriate to tap in Morse and give them a message that way.  If they, however, understand Pig Latin but not Morse, then you should use Pig Latin.  If they understand neither, then use neither or teach them a code.  Communication is a two way street, even for mathematicians. Don't be a Fermat.  Don't treat people as slow and clumsy because they can't jump from cliff to cliff.  Don't treat people as dumb because they can't get instantly to the answer from the problem. 

    Calculators and Savants are amazing, and I don't mean to disparage how useful they are; but a person who is slow but steady at math is still a smart kid; and a person who needs the huge, long, proofs to get from the question to the answer; can still get to the answer.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    I wish people gave me free video games

    Do you have a Steam account?

    Yes

    I forgot the password though
  • The sadness will last forever.
    me too
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