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  • Canst thou, O partial sleep, give thy repose
    To the wet sea-boy in an hour so rude,
    And in the calmest and most stillest night,
    With all appliances and means to boot,
    Deny it to a king? Then happy low, lie down!
    Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    So I've decided to watch some Full Moon Pictures movies, particularly the ones that share the same weird continuity.

    I think I might review some of them, by talking over footage of them like an internet critic. It's be fun and I could share my experiences with people who might not want to watch the full movies.

    On the other hand, it's one more project for me, and along with the Goosebumps liveblog, New 52 Liveblog, and Ib LP I really need to get back to, I might be putting too much on my plate.

    Also youtube is annoying about copyright for movies and it's hard to get on Blip nowadays. So there's that.

    I think I'll make a video covering the Puppet Master, and we'll see how it goes.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    Avatar is a really hackneyed noble savage story showing native american metaphors beating up American military metaphors. I don't know why twitter marxists keep trying to force the idea that it's a corporate fascist fantasy.

    Because they aren't very good at Marxist analysis and want to be angry at James Cameron for reasons other than racial insensitivity—which they are probably not too concerned about in the end, seeing as most of them are just privileged white bourgeois armchair revolutionaries with no spines or senses of humour about themselves?
  • Smee, Maiman, Doktar, Pavelier, Button-Lee, Juan Ovyu
    image
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    NO U
  • marmalade and cole
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I mean, there's interesting stuff you can talk about in Avatar and it's reception.

    Like how many responded by hating the Na'Vi and embracing the evil colonialist villain.

    Or that weird thing where people became depressed they couldn't go to Pandora.

    Lotsa stuff.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch


    Like how many responded by hating the Na'Vi and embracing the evil colonialist villain.


    still bewilders me

    i thought the movie was ok, a little stupid at times but clearly well-intentioned

    it was pretty, and that was the important thing for me, since the visual spectacle seemed like the main point
  • the na'vi were boring and deserved to die
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat


    Like how many responded by hating the Na'Vi and embracing the evil colonialist villain.


    still bewilders me

    i thought the movie was ok, a little stupid at times but clearly well-intentioned

    it was pretty, and that was the important thing for me, since the visual spectacle seemed like the main point
    Bewildered me too.

    I didn't care for the plot, honestly, and the characterizations seemed kinda thin...
  • also avatar came out like 2 years ago why does anybody care anymore
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    heaven forbid anyone care about something 2 years old

    GET WITH THE TIMES, MAN
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i preferred District 9

    but when i watched that on a regular TV i was disappointed because it didn't feel nearly as spectacular as in the cinema
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    also avatar came out like 2 years ago why does anybody care anymore

    Almost four, in fact

    But yeah, it was kind of a flash-in-the-pan (even if it is the highest-grossing film of all time!)
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    Avatar is a really hackneyed noble savage story showing native american metaphors beating up American military metaphors. I don't know why twitter marxists keep trying to force the idea that it's a corporate fascist fantasy.

    More like "space elves".

    Where the Elves are nearly always tall, "slender", beautiful, with long graceful fingers, slightly longer necks than humans, skinny, and with unusual hair and eye colors.

    Said Elves are superior to humanity in every way, ever.  They have the prettiest voices and they live long lives; and they all look rather girly.

    Said Elves will kick anybody's butt in a fight; and will be the good guys in doing so.

    I actually like this, as I like the idea of Superior Species and Inferior Species; and such a hierarchy.  The Superior Species will, of course, be in the right in fighting the inferior species; and often we are supposed to view the Superior Species as outnumbered (only a few thousand elves vs. millions of orcs).

    Taxonomical hierarchies and such value judgements inform a number of fantasy stuff.

    A good way to get rid of the moral concerns is to make the inferior species be Robots, especially mass-produced robots with no individuality or real feelings.  Or Zombies, skeletons, and that type of thing, undead and all that; with no real feelings.  Or giant spiders.
  • nothing says "classic film that will go down throughout the ages" like a cludgy unnuanced allegory that brings no new ideas to the table


    at least if the evil corporation won that would have been different, y'know?
  • edited 2013-10-05 18:40:52
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i don't think before typing, do i?

    just ignore this, some questions are better not asked
  • nobody may have fun ever again


    thank you person
  • edited 2013-10-05 18:43:02
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Rules of thumb for such a hierarchy:

    The longer-lived a species
    is, the higher it is on the hierarchy.  The slower their rate of
    reproduction, the higher they are on the hierarchy.  The lower their
    population, the higher they are on the hierarchy.  This goes by some
    sort of conservation of ninja-ness that is a trope (I forgot the name).

    Being
    mass-produced puts you way down on the hierarchy; if they can make
    10,000 a month; then the value of each one is less.  Add this to short
    life-spans and you essentially get cockroaches.  Add mass-production to
    no sense of individuality, you get robots.

    Hive-minds are good
    ways to establish inferiority and make individuals (at least the workers
    of the hive) worth less and thus okay to kill.  Also, if there is a
    threat of the bad guys making you one of them (good example:  Undead);
    that sense of violation-of-identity is an effective way to de-sympathize
    your baddy species.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    This is probably why, despite being the highest grossing film of all time, Avatar has not left any impression on pop culture whatsoever, at least compared to let's say Star Wars or 2001 a Space Odyssey or Wizard of Oz
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    personally i find this concept 'having fun' highly problematic
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Aliroz said:

    Rules of thumb for such a hierarchy:

    The longer-lived a species
    is, the higher it is on the hierarchy.  The slower their rate of
    reproduction, the higher they are on the hierarchy.  The lower their
    population, the higher they are on the hierarchy.  This goes by some
    sort of conservation of ninja-ness that is a trope (I forgot the name).

    Being
    mass-produced puts you way down on the hierarchy; if they can make
    10,000 a month; then the value of each one is less.  Add this to short
    life-spans and you essentially get cockroaches.  Add mass-production to
    no sense of individuality, you get robots.

    Hive-minds are good
    ways to establish inferiority and make individuals (at least the workers
    of the hive) worth less and thus okay to kill.  Also, if there is a
    threat of the bad guys making you one of them (good example:  Undead);
    that sense of violation-of-identity is an effective way to de-sympathize
    your baddy species.

    And then deontology overrules it.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i wanna be a mass-produced undead robot cockroach
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    Fun is for lesser beings.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    silly human beings
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    in a hive of mass-produced undead robot cockroaches
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    One day Jabberwock awoke from unsettling dreams to find himself transformed into a mass-produced undead robot cockroach
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i lie on my steel-hard back and see, as i lift my head, my metallic, arched abdomen divided up into rigid bow-like sections
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    and then i slaughter elves and Na'avi, of course
  • edited 2013-10-05 18:55:02
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)

    i wanna be a mass-produced undead robot cockroach

    in a hive of mass-produced undead robot cockroaches

    Yeah, but the Superior Species get magic, yo; with shiny-ness and sparkles and stuff.  Also, they get pretty colors where you have to be in neutrals and "earth tones".  And the Superior Species get, like, animal friends!  Like unicorns, bears, lions, dragons, and all that mystical stuff.  Or like, time-travel crap and mystic connection to bladablah blah force powers blah blah blah four elements.  If they have space-ships, said space-ships are all pretty and zooming and sleek and smooth-looking and your space-ships look like dirt clods with loads of smoke coming out because you hate the environment. 

    And you don't get to have a face, or at least not one that makes recognizable expressions.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i wanna be a geth
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    Aliroz said:

    i wanna be a mass-produced undead robot cockroach

    in a hive of mass-produced undead robot cockroaches

    Yeah, but the Superior Species get magic, yo; with shiny-ness and sparkles and stuff.  Also, they get pretty colors where you have to be in neutrals and "earth tones".  And the Superior Species get, like, animal friends!  Like unicorns, bears, lions, dragons, and all that mystical stuff.  Or like, time-travel crap and mystic connection to bladablah blah force powers blah blah blah four elements.  If they have space-ships, said space-ships are all pretty and zooming and sleek and smooth-looking and your space-ships look like dirt clods with loads of smoke coming out because you hate the environment.

    And you don't get to have a face, or at least not one that makes recognizable expressions.
    http://ndpr.nd.edu/news/30697-anti-nietzsche/
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Aliroz said:

    Yeah, but the Superior Species get magic, yo; with shiny-ness and sparkles and stuff.  Also, they get pretty colors where you have to be in neutrals and "earth tones".  And the Superior Species get, like, animal friends!  Like unicorns, bears, lions, dragons, and all that mystical stuff.  Or like, time-travel crap and mystic connection to bladablah blah force powers blah blah blah four elements.  If they have space-ships, said space-ships are all pretty and zooming and sleek and smooth-looking and your space-ships look like dirt clods with loads of smoke coming out because you hate the environment.

    And you don't get to have a face, or at least not one that makes recognizable expressions.


    that just makes me want to fight back all the harder
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    oh shit did i just become a robot undead fantasy antinatalist
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    no, i didn't

    i am entirely in favour of the proliferation of robot cockroach zombie kind
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    cows are the superior species

    like, duh
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Or the Elves have some magic juju related to colorful crystals and harmonies and all that.  Big ol' glowy crystals of harmony; and they need to find the crown of blahblahblah.

    And
    also, the wise old sage who can secretly beat anyone up is always on
    the side of the Elves.  I mean, you have, like, the Yoda-type guy and
    the Mister Miyagi sorta guy.  And the Ender-Wiggen kid.

    And the prophecies are never on your side.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    fuck Orson Scott Card
  • image Wee yea erra chs hymmnos mea.
    support the cause of shapeshifterkind
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Melusina said:

    cows are the superior species

    like, duh

    Cows aren't "slender" enough.  And hooves are not allowed.  Gotta have long, elegant fingers.

    Real "elves" always look like anime characters a la Clamp.  Seriously, that Lelouch kid, he can't be human.
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