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  • The sadness will last forever.
    believe in the underground reptilian society
  • The sadness will last forever.
    smash the underground reptilian society
  • The sadness will last forever.
    i love reptiles
  • actually now that someone's pointed out that it's a lot like Haruhi-chan I enjoy it a bit better.

    also I now need to find a TTGO Terra picture to use as an avatar.
  • Pangur Bán said:i mean like, even if it's something seemingly silly like thinking you are an animal or whatever, people still should be able to expect that, if they aren't messing with peeps, peeps won't mess with them.


    at least that is what i think

    Honestly, I would have agreed with this maybe a year ago, but then I realized something. A lot of them are
    jerks.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    reptile hating 4 lyfe
  • The sadness will last forever.
    hypocrisy i am
  • a lot of Catholics--including our second most recent pope--are jerks too, Kexruct.

    And while I am a christian there is nothing fundamentally more silly--when you take them at face value, anyway--about believing you are a winged cat-dragon on the inside than believing that a rabbi that lived over 2,000 years ago is the son of god.
  • That seems like something of a false equivalency.
  • ah, I am making the mistake of looking in tags on tumblr.
  • Kexruct said:

    That seems like something of a false equivalency.

    "sometimes people of a given group are jerks, and sometimes people of another given group are also jerks" is not false equivalency, it's just true.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    image
  • That wasn't what I was referring to. The Catholic faith is in no way equivalent to the quasi-religion otherkin have.
  • Kexruct said:

    That wasn't what I was referring to. The Catholic faith is in no way equivalent to the quasi-religion otherkin have.

    If you're a believer in one or the other obviously not, but from an outside perspective (which is generally the only intelligent way to think about these things) neither is particularly more ridiculous than the other.
  • Except that one of them is a weak justification for a particular identity that only really began to become prevalent when furry communities got big about ten years ago and the other is a nearly two millennium year old religion. 
  • I don't really feel like arguing about this.

    You're being silly and in all likelihood your friend is too. One of you needs to get over it.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    A religion is faith in something that there is no evidence of. If otherkin had a more organized system of beliefs, it would probably be called a religion. There is nothing wrong with having a religion but you also have to realize what a religion is.
  • Kexruct said:

    Except that one of them is a weak justification for a particular identity that only really began to become prevalent when furry communities got big about ten years ago and the other is a nearly two millennium year old religion. 

    image
  • edited 2013-08-24 20:00:31
    I mean, I agree that it's not something that I should get too worked up over- as if that's ever stopped me in the past- but  I still refuse to believe the two are equivalent.

    That said, I understand I'm simultaneously beating a dead horse and (more or less) preaching to the choir about the legitimacy of otherkin identities. 
  • lol, kemetic reconstructionism
  • Kexruct said:

    Except that one of them is a weak justification for a particular identity that only really began to become prevalent when furry communities got big about ten years ago and the other is a nearly two millennium year old religion. 

    image
    that is one buff horus.
  • Miko said:A religion is faith in something that there is no evidence of. If otherkin had a more organized system of beliefs, it would probably be called a religion. There is nothing wrong with having a religion but you also have to realize what a religion is.


    The problem is that it
    isn't organized. That's really the crux of the issue. I don't think any of them actually believe in their "religion" outside of its ability to justify their identity.
  • spinor said:

    kemetic reconstructionism

    huh, i did not know this was a thing until now. p cool
  • anyhoo i think we should all worship this lion statue dude now because he is the oldest
  • also somehow I doubt that otherkin actually understand the origins of the vague cultural tropes they're appropriating
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Spiritual beliefs all have the same legitimacy unless they're hateful or contradict known facts.
  • Miko said:

    Spiritual beliefs all have the same legitimacy unless they're hateful or contradict known facts.

    agreed
  • spinor said:

    also somehow I doubt that otherkin actually understand the origins of the vague cultural tropes they're appropriating

    That's what I'm getting at.
  • edited 2013-08-24 20:04:41
    (flower path)
    Daniel Remar still probably thinks that DLC is trolling.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    scientology 
  • The sadness will last forever.
    ITT: we are all scientologists
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Even if it is silly, otherkin is a non-issue because the only people who are part of it are teenagers, mostly, most of whom will probably change their minds later. I think, anyway.
  • scientology 

    lol thetans

    did you know that scientology thinks that space opera movies and tv shows are actually humanity remembering the past of xenu?
  • The sadness will last forever.
    lol xenu
  • edited 2013-08-24 20:08:42
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Daniel Remar still probably thinks that DLC is trolling.
    I dislike the idea of video game DLC because I think that a game should be sold as a complete package and any updates or additions should be free. If the developer wants to sell a whole new "episode" then they should turn it into an independent game.
  • Miko said:

    Even if it is silly, otherkin is a non-issue because the only people who are part of it are teenagers, mostly, most of whom will probably change their minds later. I think, anyway.

    Again, I was getting at that.

    But, lolmyopia. I find it kind of hard to comprehend this for whatever reason.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I think that Scientology is a really bad joke.
  • I think Scientology is a very big exception to the "all spiritual beliefs are created equal rule."
  • i kinda like the idea of DLC, provided it isn't like some sort of "lol u dont have the full game experience unless you pay extra"
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    When it comes to otherkin, I basically just try to take the "live and let live" attitude

    My perspective is probably a bit different anyway, since I have some understanding of what it's like to feel like you should be something you're physically not...
  • I think for a good example of how good or bad DLC can be, look to Oblivion.

    On the one hand, it has this.
    image
    Five dollars for this, by the way.

    On the other hand, it has this:
    image
  • After some serious deliberating on the subject, I have decided to move from Mozilla to Chrome.

    There is way too much empty space, but it's not necessarily a bad thing

    I was at McDonald's for about two hours today and saw the Gravity Falls two-parter. I really need to watch more of that show.

    You really should. And Larry King also voiced himself in the wax figurine episode.

    Kex, I am sorry that you are feeling the feelings that you are feeling at the moment. I am also sorry that my expression of condolence isn't particularly specific. 

    There is, in some way, a difference in validity between belief structures. Scientology, for example, is not on the same level of validity as Christianity because of the relative lack of scholarly work on the subject and the fact that the former is really sketchy. I cannot speak on the otherkin, however, as I have not observed them closely and I have no plans to. 
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I am also the sort of person who hates easy modes and thinks cut-scenes should be short and games should always challenge and not have unnecessary padding and also is sad that arcades are falling out of favour, soooooooooo yeah.
  • edited 2013-08-24 20:15:31
    (flower path)
    Miko said:

    Daniel Remar still probably thinks that DLC is trolling.
    I dislike the idea of video game DLC because I think that a game should be sold as a complete package and any updates or additions should be free. If the developer wants to sell a whole new "episode" then they should turn it into an independent game.
    lol, not that DLC, you've never had to see Celebrian in action have you
  • When it comes to otherkin, I basically just try to take the "live and let live" attitude


    My perspective is probably a bit different anyway, since I have some understanding of what it's like to feel like you should be something you're physically not...
    That's another reason I have a problem with it, though. Because it feels like they're appropriating that feeling too, when it seems like more often than not, it's just teenagers trying to feel special.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.
    --L.Ron Hubbard
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    spinor said:

    lol, not that DLC, you've never had to see Celebrian in action have you

    Hee hee, I picked up on that, but I thought it was funnier to let the misunderstanding stand
  • The Dark Lady has been mentioned again. 

    I never found her to be much of a bother myself. Her bits of insanity merely seemed benign.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I am like neo-phobic with video games. I have still not gotten used to the idea of DLC.
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