Back when all I knew about BoI was gleaned from a skimming of the introduction to it on TvT, I was worried it was an anti-religious game. I'm somewhat relieved that that doesn't appear to be the case.
Eh. I've only played X, which to my knowledge is considered the worst in that regard, and I feel like the extenuating circumstances- namely the GIANT WHALE MONSTER- sort of changes things. I don't think the GIANT WHALE MONSTER is symbolic of the evils of religion, really.
Back when all I knew about BoI was gleaned from a skimming of the introduction to it on TvT, I was worried it was an anti-religious game. I'm somewhat relieved that that doesn't appear to be the case.
Yeah it's really not.
Heck one of the best items in the game is The Sacred Heart.
There's like, 2 games where the religion in FF is evil. And one of those was only evil because it was usurped by somebody with other plans. I mean, in the FFXIII trilogy or whatever, a goddess is a major character on the side of good. Well, she kinda screws up, but she's well meaning.
One thing that did sort of disappoint me about FFX was how it came so close to dealing with issues of faith in a mature way but ended up making the Church of Yevon unambiguously evil.
Although the fact that the spirit place whose name I can't remember is never fully explained was a nice touch.
One thing that did sort of disappoint me about FFX was how it came so close to dealing with issues of faith in a mature way but ended up making the Church of Yevon unambiguously evil.
Although the fact that the spirit place whose name I can't remember is never fully explained was a nice touch.
Not really. I mean, it's never made clear how many of the higher ups know of Yu Yevon's actions. And by FFX-2, there's New Yevon, now with 100% less deathstarfish.
Miko said:I was thinking mainly of X, where Yevon = the Catholic church, the Al Bhed = the Jews, and Yuna = a martyr/saint.
Honestly the only thing that strikes me as similar to the Catholic Church is the vaguely similar aesthetic and the fact that it's a big church. I guess some would argue that the negative stance on technological progress is a similarity, but to my knowledge the Vatican isn't really against technological progression, and they're making baby steps in the direction of social progress so that argument doesn't really hold water.
One thing that did sort of disappoint me about FFX was how it came so close to dealing with issues of faith in a mature way but ended up making the Church of Yevon unambiguously evil.
Although the fact that the spirit place whose name I can't remember is never fully explained was a nice touch.
Not really. I mean, it's never made clear how many of the higher ups know of Yu Yevon's actions. And by FFX-2, there's New Yevon, now with 100% less deathstarfish.
I never played X-2, because
1. I never beat the final boss of the original (I've had the ending gradually spoiled for me in the intervening years)
2. It threatened my frail early-teenage self conception of masculinity. To be honest, I'd still be a bit embarrassed to play it.
The modern Catholic church is quite different from the medieval one, of course.
Which also wasn't as regressive as people think it was. For a while the church was a bastion of higher learning. How many early scientists were monks? Gregor Mendel laid the foundation for modern genetics and even evolution.
Yevon is the religion. Yu Yevon was the founder and the namesake. The fayth chose to sacrifice their bodies so that summoners could defeat Sin, in the name of Yevon. Yevon and the Fayth are intrinsically linked. Unlike Catholicism and Shintoism.
See it's funny because my physical stature can best be described as "reminiscent of five twigs with a walnut rammed on top" and any one of you could probably snap me in half in a physical confrontation.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
In elementary school, though, I had trouble because I moved away from a lot of my good friends in second grade and moved to a school where all the kids were decidedly less friendly. Luckily the different elementary schools converged by intermediate school (my school system had a different building for fifth and sixth grade. It was pretty sweet.) so I got to see my old friends again.
I had friends that i manipulated and discarded in a fickle manner when they lost my interest, or, in some cases, i would poach theirs if they interested me more than they themselves did.
This tape has some of the oddest Christmas specials I've ever seen on it:
There's It's Christmastime Again, Charlie Brown...you've never heard of it, since I don't think it ever gets rerun. It seems pretty solid, though the music is off—David Benoit's arrangements sound less like Vince Guaraldi and more like Steely Dan circa 1980. :P (Or, for that matter, most of Kamakiriad.)
Then we get Inspector Gadget Saves Christmas. It's a DiC production from after they switched to KK C&D for most of their animation, and it shows; I originally thought it was one of the Perennial Pictures syndicated specials, the animation was so weird-looking. I can't comment on the plot since I didn't watch most of it.
Right now, I'm looking at Noel. I'm relatively sure that, just like Turn-On, Co-Ed Fever and the lost pilot episode of Limozeen...but they're in space?, this only ever ran once. This thing is so rare that, when I tried to add it to IMDb several years ago, it not only wasn't there already, but the submission review staff actually doubted its existence. This one really needs some discussion, since I remember really liking it back when I was 15, but it seems kind of, well, forced now. (Then again, you could say that about a lot of Christmas-themed stuff, since schmaltz seems to be encouraged.) It was written by Romeo Muller, the head writer for all those old Rankin/Bass Christmas specials, but oddly enough, Arthur Rankin and Jules Bass, Sr. had nothing to do with this. Maybe they wanted to work on other projects, maybe they weren't happy with the script, but for whatever reason, Muller approached R/B's production partner on ThunderCats and The Comic Strip, Pacific Animation, and had them produce it themselves.
The story is pretty straightforward. It's centered around Noel, an anthropomorphic Christmas ornament who gets a "happiness" from the tears of a glassblower who had just heard his first grandchild was on the way. (Yeah, it's that kind of show). Noel, like most ornaments, thrives on being shown to people and coming out of the attic for Christmas and New Years, and it goes on this way for several years, but after a family tragedy, he and his boxmates are left abandoned in the house's attic. Years later, a modern-day black family (the mom and dad of which look like dime-store knockoffs of Cliff and Claire Huxtable) move in and find the ornaments while cleaning up the house. Yeah.
And then he falls off the tree and smashes to bits. Oops. But! There's a Nativity scene at the bottom of the tree, and it causes a miracle and turns Noel into a spirit/energy being that goes and brings the Joy of Christmas to everyone, no matter what cultural background they are. There's some unfortunate implications there, mainly related to Christianity's not-so-nice past regarding proselyting, but I'll let it slide for now since it's not quite as preachy as I remembered.
did anyone here have friends when they were in school
I had friends, though my obsessive/lost puppy dog nature at the time scared off several people. I eventually did manage to make some friends who remembered me well enough to keep in touch, though.
Part of the problem is my...difficulties with texting and Facebook, and without either of those two being easily accessible, keeping in touch just doesn't happen.
It's something I've been planning to fix but haven't gotten around to. For about half a decade.
I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
This tape has some of the oddest Christmas specials I've ever seen on it:
There's It's Christmastime Again, Charlie Brown...you've never heard of it, since I don't think it ever gets rerun. It seems pretty solid, though the music is off—David Benoit's arrangements sound less like Vince Guaraldi and more like Steely Dan circa 1980. :P (Or, for that matter, most of Kamakiriad.)
Then we get Inspector Gadget Saves Christmas. It's a DiC production from after they switched to KK C&D for most of their animation, and it shows; I originally thought it was one of the Perennial Pictures syndicated specials, the animation was so weird-looking. I can't comment on the plot since I didn't watch most of it.
Right now, I'm looking at Noel. I'm relatively sure that, just like Turn-On, Co-Ed Fever and the lost pilot episode of Limozeen...but they're in space?, this only ever ran once. This thing is so rare that, when I tried to add it to IMDb several years ago, it not only wasn't there already, but the submission review staff actually doubted its existence. This one really needs some discussion, since I remember really liking it back when I was 15, but it seems kind of, well, forced now. (Then again, you could say that about a lot of Christmas-themed stuff, since schmaltz seems to be encouraged.) It was written by Romeo Muller, the head writer for all those old Rankin/Bass Christmas specials, but oddly enough, Arthur Rankin and Jules Bass, Sr. had nothing to do with this. Maybe they wanted to work on other projects, maybe they weren't happy with the script, but for whatever reason, Muller approached R/B's production partner on ThunderCats and The Comic Strip, Pacific Animation, and had them produce it themselves.
The story is pretty straightforward. It's centered around Noel, an anthropomorphic Christmas ornament who gets a "happiness" from the tears of a glassblower who had just heard his first grandchild was on the way. (Yeah, it's that kind of show). Noel, like most ornaments, thrives on being shown to people and coming out of the attic for Christmas and New Years, and it goes on this way for several years, but after a family tragedy, he and his boxmates are left abandoned in the house's attic. Years later, a modern-day black family (the mom and dad of which look like dime-store knockoffs of Cliff and Claire Huxtable) move in and find the ornaments while cleaning up the house. Yeah.
And then he falls off the tree and smashes to bits. Oops. But! There's a Nativity scene at the bottom of the tree, and it causes a miracle and turns Noel into a spirit/energy being that goes and brings the Joy of Christmas to everyone, no matter what cultural background they are. There's some unfortunate implications there, mainly related to Christianity's not-so-nice past regarding proselyting, but I'll let it slide for now since it's not quite as preachy as I remembered.
I got that first special on VHS at a thrift store in 2008
What network aired Noel? Maybe try to capture it and send the video to Peter Paltridge or something?
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Eh. I've only played X, which to my knowledge is considered the worst in that regard, and I feel like the extenuating circumstances- namely the GIANT WHALE MONSTER- sort of changes things. I don't think the GIANT WHALE MONSTER is symbolic of the
Heck one of the best items in the game is The Sacred Heart. I felt this way for quite a long time too (especially since I'm really squeamish). I'd advise you to give the demo a shot, personally.
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Honestly the only thing that strikes me as similar to the Catholic Church is the vaguely similar aesthetic and the fact that it's a big church. I guess some would argue that the negative stance on technological progress is a similarity, but to my knowledge the Vatican isn't really against technological progression, and they're making baby steps in the direction of social progress so that argument doesn't really hold water.
Young Miko had some half-baked theories whilst playing the game, perhaps? ^_^
there is trouble with the trees
for the maples want more sunlight
and the oaks ignore their pleas
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Friends emerged eventually, wherever I went. I am, however, bad at keeping them when I inevitably go.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
It's something I've been planning to fix but haven't gotten around to. For about half a decade.