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Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:11:20

By passing a blank string for the end we tell the
print()
function
to not add a newline at the
end of the string, but instead add a blank st
ring. This is why
'
-
MOO!'
appears next to the
previous line, instead of on its own line. There was no newline printed after the
'Interrupting cow wh'
string

It makes my brain hurt a little but I think it makes sense.

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:13:42

ok that was less of a headache than I thought. Chapter 6 has dragon in the title. :) Let's get reading.

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:16:14

ok I am going to write a function for the first time? Is this scary or not...?

Odradek · 2013-07-14 21:17:26

Worstthingever.avi

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:17:47

btw I'm jamming to the Espgaluda OST while I read this.

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:30:04

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:37:15

nohaynicklibre · 2013-07-14 21:38:40

The only good thing related to Leetstreet Boys is that Japanese TV show where they made fun of them, and them believing they are actually famous there

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:42:26

Imipolex G · 2013-07-14 21:43:36

so yeah I dunno

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:44:12

teehee Boolean is a funny word.

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:45:03

^^ They are all afraid of Samuel L. Jackson? XD

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:46:19

Anonus · 2013-07-14 21:56:38

Ugh

I'm not used to Ohio's sticky humidity

It seems even more potent than Michigan's

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 21:59:53

So I can have a variable inside a function and one outside the function and they can have the same name and be two different things. :D

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:01:47

oh so a gobal variable exists in a function but can't be modified... that could make things a little confusing. >_>

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:03:34

Specifically, we can read the value of global variables from the local scope, but attempting to
change the value in a global variable from the local scope will leave the global variab
le
unchanged. What Python actually does is create a local variable with the
same name
as the
global variable. But Python will consider these to be two different variables.

oh~ that's trippy. @_@ But now it makes sense. :D

Imipolex G · 2013-07-14 22:06:47

Are you learning things, Miko?

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:09:44

Why yes. :D

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:10:29

hmmm so making a function with a parameter in the "define" line...? o_o

This is how we pass variable values to functions since functions cannot read
variables ou
tside of the function (that is, outside of the function's local scope).

I thought functions could read global variables? :o

Princess Alice · 2013-07-14 22:11:06

Anonus said:
Ugh

I'm not used to Ohio's sticky humidity

It seems even more potent than Michigan's

It's been especially muggy this weekend, since it rained like 5 days in a row this past week.

Who knows, though, maybe next time the tables will be turned and it'll be me who can't adjust to Denver's altitude. :P

Hexartes · 2013-07-14 22:11:32

Local scope includes global scope, I think is what he's getting at.

Anonus · 2013-07-14 22:11:41

^^I've wondered that myself.

Also the dry air.

lee4hmz · 2013-07-14 22:12:32

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:13:08

Local scope includes global scope, I think is what he's getting at.

This is why it's confusing that we do something like

def checkCave(chosenCave):
bla bla more code

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:17:01

berrrrrrrrrrfff

Princess Alice · 2013-07-14 22:17:06

Anonus said:
^^I've wondered that myself.

Also the dry air.

Ah, that too.

I guess we'll find out sometime~

Princess Alice · 2013-07-14 22:17:32

fuck yes, carrying on online conversation from across the room from each other

Imipolex G · 2013-07-14 22:18:26

Denver is high up and the air is thinner

just sayin'

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:19:12

bing bing

Hexartes · 2013-07-14 22:19:34

Central Avenue said:
fuck yes, carrying on online conversation from across the room from each other

This made me smile.

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:19:44

far ming

Princess Alice · 2013-07-14 22:20:42

To be fair, we're talking to each other in person too, but about different stuff

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:21:26

ok so caveNumber is chooseCave, then checkCave uses caveNumber as a parameter/argument in the main loop but when we define it we instead use chosenCave, which is only ever used once and inside the function at that...? does caveNumber become chosenCave? Why not call them the same thing?? ow my brain.

Imipolex G · 2013-07-14 22:22:30

now that is a tsundere

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:26:43

def sayHello(name):
print('Hello, ' + name)
print('Say hello to Alice.')
fizzy = 'Alice'
sayHello(fizzy)
print('Do not forget to say hello to
Bob.')
sayHello('Bob')

Wait this makes more sense. So the parameter in the "define" line is a variable created in the function that is changed when you call the function. :o Trippy!!!

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:27:57

ffffffffff it makes sense ~_~ how is my brain able to absorb this???? I thought I was as dumb as a bag of rocks.

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:30:07

I like how you have to define a function before calling it in the code. It's like beginning a story in media res. ^_^

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:30:15

che bung

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:30:43

satan, stop being so tsundere

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:33:07

hmmm so a colon seems to always go before a new block....? Or will that change. I shall see. :) It seems to be a good rule to follow when writing Python code anyway.

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:35:59

ohhhh the blank parentheses represent the function's "return" value. :o So that is why we use "return." :D

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:36:39

mister burger

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:38:12

nom nom nom studios

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:39:15

typicalinternetpost.text

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:39:43

wow 104 pages aready! :o

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:40:16

I am ~22% through this textbook. :3

Misery · 2013-07-14 22:40:41

munch munch posties

Miss Miko Mayonegg · 2013-07-14 22:41:44

Chapter 7 is about debugging. That sounds not so fun. ^_^

Hexartes · 2013-07-14 22:44:06

I kinda...

skipped that one, admittedly.

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