The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • I have been singled out by a team of stunt mosquitoes, dedicated to leaving bites in the most creative places

    How, I ask you, does a bite end up on my lip? How?
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Yikes!  Maybe you have a vein in your lip?

    At least they haven't gotten to your eye yet, that would be bad.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    aggressive making out
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)


    WHEN HULK WATCHES A HOMELESS PERSON ON THE STREET WHO IS SAD, HULK GETS
    SAD TOO. IT'S HARD NOT TO, RIGHT? THAT HOMELESS PERSON IS A PERSON TOO
    AND THEY ARE SUFFERING AND IT WOULD TAKE THE LEAST GRACIOUS AND THE
    COLDEST AMONG US NOT TO FEEL AT LEAST SOMETHING FOR THEM. BUT STILL,
    THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN ALL TRANSCEND PAST THAT AS HUMAN BEINGS. AND
    IT'S OFTEN BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE PERSON. AND USUALLY OUR SADNESS IS
    NOT ABOUT "THEM" BUT BECAUSE WE PROJECT OUR FEELINGS AND LIVES ONTO THE
    HOMELESS PERSON. INSTEAD OF "Oh, no! That other person I don't know!" WE
    PROJECT AND ASK "What if that was me? What if that was someone I cared
    about?" AND YES IT CAN AFFECT US, BUT NO MATTER HOW SAD IT MAY BE IT IS STILL SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM US.


    MEANWHILE, WHEN HULK WATCHES A LOVED ONE WHO IS SAD ABOUT EVEN THE MOST
    TRIVIAL OF THINGS, IT HAS THE ABILITY TO BREAK HULK'S HEART IMMEDIATELY
    (ESPECIALLY IF THAT PERSON IS NORMALLY STOIC).


    WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN? THE HOMELESS PERSON'S PLIGHT IS OBVIOUSLY MUCH
    MORE SERIOUS, RIGHT? BUT THAT ISN'T WHAT MATTERS TO HUMAN BEINGS. IT IS
    BECAUSE HULK ACTUALLY HAS A DEEP CONNECTION TO THE LOVED ONE. HULK HAS
    YEARS OF LOVE AND SUPPORT AND KINDNESS. WE ARE ATTACHED ON THE MOST
    BASIC LEVEL BECAUSE WE HAVE HISTORY AND UNDERSTANDING. WE'VE GONE
    THROUGH THE DRAMA OF LIFE TOGETHER AND THUS WE CAN FEEL EVERY EMOTION
    WITH THEM IN A HEIGHTENED STATE. WE INTRINSICALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY
    ARE SAD AND EMPATHIZE, FOR PERHAPS THAT LOVED ONE IS CARRYING A BURDEN
    FROM A PREVIOUS EVENT. THEY SIMPLY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE A PART OF US.
    THEREFORE, WE ROOT FOR WHAT THAT PERSON WANTS AND NEEDS.


    AND THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT MOST BLOCKBUSTERS FAIL TO UNDERSTAND.


    THEY ALWAYS FALL FOR EMPHASIZING THE "SCALE" OF THE CONFLICT EVEN
    WITHOUT TRYING TO MAKE IT EVER FEEL INTIMATE, PERSONAL OR EVEN EARNED.
    THEY FAIL TO REALIZE THAT ANY PROBLEM CAN FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM
    IN THE WORLD IF IT IS YOURS. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY YOU HAVE TO BUILD UP A RELATIONSHIP AND A CONNECTION.


    THESE BLOCKBUSTERS DON'T REALIZE YOU HAVE TO CREATE SOMETHING MEANINGFUL ENOUGH THAT COULD ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE WE ARE LOSING SOMETHING WHEN IT GOES AWAY.


    THAT MEANS CREATING RELATIONSHIPS WE UNDERSTAND AND FEEL FOR, JUST LIKE
    WE HAVE WITH OUR FAMILY MEMBERS. IT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN A MOVIE'S
    INTEREST TO DO SO. SO WHY DO SO MANY REACH OUT FOR THE TANGENTIAL
    CONNECTION? WHY DO SO MANY RELY ON SCALE AND FALLING BUILDINGS? WHY DO
    SO MANY THROW SCORES OF STRANGERS' FACES AT YOU AS THEY PERISH? WHY IS
    IT ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS A PLOT ABOUT THE END OF THE WORLD WHEN THEY
    NEVER BOTHER TO EXPLAIN WHY IT'S A WORLD WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT? AND WHY
    DO GOOD FILMMAKERS ALWAYS TRY TO SOLELY RELY ON THE FILMMAKING CRAFT OF A
    GOOD MUSIC CUE AND A PRETTY IMAGE TO CLAW AT YOUR EMOTIONS THAN
    BUILDING SOMETHING REAL? LIKE THE HOMELESS PERSON, THEY WANT YOU TO
    PROJECT YOURSELF ONTO AN UNKNOWN TRAGEDY RATHER THAN JUST BE YOUR
    FRIEND. THEY FAIL TO REALIZE THAT YOU CAN SHOW THE SADDEST DEATH IN THE
    WORLD WITH THE MOST HEARTBREAKING MUSIC CUE, BUT IF THERE'S NO REAL
    MEANING. SERIOUSLY, IF WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ACTUALLY LOST SOMETHING, THEN WHAT DOES IT MATTER?


    THAT'S EXACTLY WHY DRAMATIZATION MATTERS SO MUCH. WHEN AN EXPERIENCE IS
    SHOWN AND FELT AND SHARED, IT DIRECTLY EFFECTS HOW YOU FEEL WHEN THAT
    RELATIONSHIP IS PUT IN JEOPARDY.

  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    ANSWER TIME, COME ON GRAB YOUR FRIENDS

    Yes, Anonus is very handsome! ^_^

    He does have curly hair and glasses, though he's not nerdy-looking in the Hollywood stereotype sense.

    Of course we have autistic superpowers! Why just today he deduced our hotel's secret identity.

    No pony fursuits. At least not yet. Maybe a later meetup. :P

    Python is great if it's got "Monty" before it

    Yes, we do like each other IRL. We're Anonymous Freaking Avenue, silly, we're inseparable real life or internet!
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Hey, my human-form (achieved by pressing L and R when I hide under a cardboard box after reaching level 27) has curly hair and glasses, but isn't so much nerdy-looking as dirty, ugly, scruffy, androgynous and short..

    How tall is Anonus?  Why can't you just live together?

    And when do you two have to separate?
  • The sadness will last forever.
    Just got some sci-fi novels to read at the gym.
  • edited 2013-07-13 20:29:50

    ^ ^ /)^3^(\
  • BE ATTITUDE FOR GAINS
    FURSUIT!!!

  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)


    TO BEST EXPLAIN WHY THIS MATTERS, LET’S GET HYPOTHETICAL: IF YOU (THE
    REAL YOU READING THIS NOW) WERE WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND SOMEONE CAME
    UP TO YOU AND YELLED, “Quick! I'm your long-lost brother you never knew
    you had! Someone's after me! We have to run!!!!"  YOU WOULD BE
    COMPLETELY TAKEN OFF-GUARD, WOULDN'T YOU? NOW, WOULD YOU BE CURIOUS?
    WOULD IT BE CRAZY? WOULD IT BE EXCITING? SURE! BUT YOU WOULDN’T EXACTLY BE INVESTED. YOU WOULD BE SUSPICIOUS. YOU WOULD DISTANCE YOURSELF. MEANWHILE, IF YOUR ACTUAL BROTHER
    THAT YOU'VE KNOWN AND LOVED YOUR WHOLE LIFE SHOWED UP AND SAID “Quick!
    Someone's after me! We have to run!"  YOU WOULD BE MUCH MORE INVESTED!
    IT’S YOUR BROTHER, AFTER ALL. BOTH ARE YOUR "BROTHERS" BUT ONE IS A
    PERSON WITH WHOM YOU HAVE A SHARED HISTORY AND LOVE. YOU HAVE ALL THE RELEVANT INFORMATION TO YOUR BOND
    THUS THERE WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL ROOTING INTEREST. AND BETWEEN THESE
    TWO SCENARIOS, THE MORE DRAMATIC AND COMPELLING SITUATION SHOULD BE
    OBVIOUS, RIGHT?


    SO WHY DO SO MANY MODERN BLOCKBUSTERS OPT FOR THE FIRST OPTION?


    IT IS THE FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND THAT STORYTELLING WORKS THE SAME WAY AS
    ANY HUMAN RELATIONSHIP: IT REQUIRES TIME AND UNDERSTANDING AND A
    PREHISTORY OF REASONS TO DO THINGS. THE AUDIENCE NEEDS TO NOT JUST SEE
    THAT THE TWO ARE BROTHERS, BUT ESSENTIALLY "HAVE" THE SAME EXPERIENCES
    AND AFFECTION THAT LEAD THEM UP TO THAT POINT IN ORDER FOR IT TO
    PROPERLY RESONATE WITH THEM. WHICH MEANS THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTANDING THIS
    INFORMATION IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN TWO PEOPLE SECRETLY KNOWING IT
    ON SCREEN. BUT FILMMAKERS KEEP MISSING THAT. THEY ASSUME EMPATHY IS JUST
    THERE. THEY STRIVE TO REVEAL. AND THEN THEY TRY TO OVERCOME THIS LACK
    OF RESONANCE BY SOAKING EMOTIONAL MOMENTS WITH ALL THE CINEMATIC BOMBAST
    AND GUSTO THEY CAN, BUT WITHOUT PRE-EXISTING CLARITY IT’S UTTERLY
    WITHOUT IMPORT. WE SIMPLY NEED THE NECESSARY CONTEXT.  AND WITHOUT IT,
    ALL OF TODAY’S BLOCKBUSTERS ARE NOTHING BUT THE CRAZY, RANDOM STRANGER
    RUNNING UP TO YOU ON THE STREET AND DEMANDING THAT YOU COME ALONG ON A
    WILD ADVENTURE.

  • The sadness will last forever.
    fursuits..hmm..
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    IT'S A SHAME BECAUSE ALL A WRITER NEEDS TO MAKE A REVEAL WORK IS TO ASK TWO SIMPLE QUESTIONS: “WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC CONFLICT BEING CREATED BY NOT KNOWING THIS INFORMATION?” AND “WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC CONFLICT CREATED BY NOW KNOWING THIS INFORMATION?”
    AND DEPENDING ON THE STRENGTH AND VIABILITY OF THAT CONFLICT YOU HAVE
    YOUR ANSWER ON WHEN TO REVEAL. FOR INSTANCE, WHY WOULD GARETH EVANS WANT
    TO WAIT UNTIL TO THE END OF THE RAID TO REVEAL THAT
    THE HERO’S WIFE IS PREGNANT WHEN WE GAIN SO MUCH TENSION AND DRAMA
    KNOWING THIS FATHER-TO-BE IS IN HARMS WAY? THUS, THE INFORMATION BEST
    SERVES THE STORY BEING OFFERED UP FRONT. THE SAME IS TRUE WITH STANTON'S
    EARLIER FILM FINDING NEMO, WHEREIN THE MAIN CHARACTER
    OF MARLIN SUFFERS A TRAUMATIC LOSS IN THE OPENING, WHICH PERFECTLY
    JUSTIFIES HIS OVER-PROTECTIVE AND FEARFUL BEHAVIOR THROUGHOUT THE MOVIE.
    WE JUST FELT FOR HIM. AND WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION WE WOULD THINK HE'S
    JUST A JERK. RATHER TELLING IS THE FACT THAT STANTON ORIGINALLY WANTED
    TO HANG ONTO THAT TRAGEDY REVEAL (EXACTLY LIKE HE DID IN JOHN CARTER).
    WHICH HULK HONESTLY BELIEVES IS JUST A HUGE FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND THE
    FUNCTION OF CHARACTERIZATION. IT MEANS THE STORYTELLER WOULD PREFER TO
    SAY "Aha! I knew what I was doing all along with this story and you
    doubted me! INSTEAD OF EXPERIENCING THE BEST FUNCTIONING STORY. WHICH
    MEANS YOU ARE MAKING YOUR AUDIENCE SUFFER FOR YOUR WANTING TO SEEM
    SMART. BUT FOR A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW TO ACTUALLY WAIT ON A REVEAL, HULK
    ALWAYS LIKES TO TURN TO PLANES, TRAINS, AND AUTOMOBILES.
    THE DRAMATIC / COMEDIC FUNCTION OF THE FILM IS PURELY BASED A SIMPLE
    DYNAMIC: YOU IDENTIFY WITH STEVE MARTIN’S AUDIENCE SURROGATE AND THUS
    YOU ARE COMEDICALLY-STRESSED-OUT BY THE ANNOYING JOHN CANDY CHARACTER.
    AND SO IT IS NOT UNTIL THE RECONCILIATION BETWEEN THE TWO IS FINALLY
    REQUIRED THAT JOHN CANDY’S CHARACTER REVEALS HIS WIFE HAS DIED AND HE’S
    JUST A LONELY SOUL. AND IF WE KNEW THIS INFORMATION BEFOREHAND? THEN WE
    WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE SAME SPECIFIC COMEDIC CONFLICT.
    STEVE MARTIN’S ANNOYANCE WOULD JUST HAVE MADE HIM SEEM LIKE A JERK. THIS
    IS SIMPLE STUFF, BUT IT’S LIKE WE’VE LOST OUR SENSE OF BASIC
    FUNCTIONALITY. WANTING TO BE THE MAGICIAN IS A FINE ENOUGH INSTINCT FOR A
    STORYTELLER, BUT IT CAN'T HAPPEN AT THE BEHEST OF THE DRAMA. OTHERWISE
    YOU ARE JUST GOING TO PERFORM A WELL-ORCHESTRATED SHELL GAME.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    k..
  • The sadness will last forever.
    hulk the bomb
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    aggressive making out
    :o
    ANSWER TIME, COME ON GRAB YOUR FRIENDS
    yay :D *hugs*
  • The sadness will last forever.
    sci fi conventions
  • Pyridrym said:

    FURSUIT!!!

    Interesting.
  • I can see Aliroz is enjoying FILM CRIT HULK.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)


    SO LET'S START WITH BROAD STROKES HERE... TO HULK'S DYING DAY HULK WOULD NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF OUTRIGHT BELITTLING
    SOMEONE ELSE'S INTERESTS. ON A FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN LEVEL IT JUST SEEMS
    STRANGE. SURE, THERE ARE ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM THAT CAN CERTAINLY RAISE
    AN EYEBROW (BRONIES FOR ONE), BUT THE FACT THAT WE CAN LUMP IN SOMETHING
    THAT EFFECTIVELY REGISTERS TO THE PUBLIC AS  "A GIRL SHOW" WITH
    SOMETHING WITH THAT SPECIFICITY IS A LITTLE WEIRD TO HULK. GRANTED, IT
    IS PRECISELY THIS KIND OF "THIS IS GOOD/THAT IS BAD" BRAND OF
    REFLEXIVITY THAT USUALLY SETS OFF PEOPLE'S POST-MODERN-BELLS ABOUT HOW
    EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE AND TRUTH IS A LIE... THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD,
    BUT PLEASE EXCUSE HULK FOR TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF
    PRODUCTIVE ANSWER ON HOW TO MAKE FUCKING SENSE OF THIS SITUATION.
    REFLEXIVITY DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE JUST ABANDON ALL SENSE OF OBJECTIVITY,
    IT JUST MEANS WE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE HUMANITY AND UNDERSTANDING WHILE
    DOING IT. SO WHEN LOOKING AT SOMEONE ELSE'S INTERESTS PERHAPS WE SHOULD
    JUST MEET THEM WITH A SHRUG AND NOT OUTRIGHT ANIMOSITY AND LONG-WINDED
    COMMENTS ABOUT HOW LENA DUNHAM IS VACUOUS AND DOESN'T DESERVE ANY OF HER
    SUCCESS (BECAUSE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THIS WORLD NEEDS MORE OF, IT'S
    FEMALE FILMMAKERS BEING TOLD THEY DON'T "DESERVE THEIR SUCCESS"). AND
    QUITE HONESTLY, EVEN SOMETHING EXTREME LIKE THE BRONY THING CAN BE
    UNDERSTANDABLE... IN A CERTAIN LIGHT. (2)


    Where has this blog been all these years.  I could have cited this to get people to not belittle my interests.

  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)


    THAT MEANS CREATING RELATIONSHIPS WE UNDERSTAND AND FEEL FOR, JUST LIKE
    WE HAVE WITH OUR FAMILY MEMBERS. IT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN A MOVIE'S
    INTEREST TO DO SO. SO WHY DO SO MANY REACH OUT FOR THE TANGENTIAL
    CONNECTION? WHY DO SO MANY RELY ON SCALE AND FALLING BUILDINGS? WHY DO
    SO MANY THROW SCORES OF STRANGERS' FACES AT YOU AS THEY PERISH? WHY IS
    IT ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS A PLOT ABOUT THE END OF THE WORLD WHEN THEY
    NEVER BOTHER TO EXPLAIN WHY IT'S A WORLD WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT? AND WHY
    DO GOOD FILMMAKERS ALWAYS TRY TO SOLELY RELY ON THE FILMMAKING CRAFT OF A
    GOOD MUSIC CUE AND A PRETTY IMAGE TO CLAW AT YOUR EMOTIONS THAN
    BUILDING SOMETHING REAL? LIKE THE HOMELESS PERSON, THEY WANT YOU TO
    PROJECT YOURSELF ONTO AN UNKNOWN TRAGEDY RATHER THAN JUST BE YOUR
    FRIEND. THEY FAIL TO REALIZE THAT YOU CAN SHOW THE SADDEST DEATH IN THE
    WORLD WITH THE MOST HEARTBREAKING MUSIC CUE, BUT IF THERE'S NO REAL
    MEANING. SERIOUSLY, IF WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ACTUALLY LOST SOMETHING, THEN WHAT DOES IT MATTER?


    THAT'S EXACTLY WHY DRAMATIZATION MATTERS SO MUCH. WHEN AN EXPERIENCE IS
    SHOWN AND FELT AND SHARED, IT DIRECTLY EFFECTS HOW YOU FEEL WHEN THAT
    RELATIONSHIP IS PUT IN JEOPARDY.



    THE OPENING OF PIXAR'S UP WANTS TO ESTABLISH
    THAT CARL IS A SAD, LONELY, CURMUDGEONLY PERSON WHO HAS SUFFERED GREAT
    LOSS. THAT'S THE ONLY INFORMATION WE NEED TO GET HIS DYNAMIC AND MIND
    STATE, RIGHT?


    WHICH MEANS THE MOVIE COULD HAVE VERY WELL JUST SHOWN A SCENE WITH CARL
    ALONE AT THE FUNERAL HOME AFTER HIS WIFE ELIE HAD DIED. HE THEN COULD
    HAVE GIVEN A SPEECH TO HER GRAVE ABOUT WHAT SHE MEANT AND ALL THE
    AMAZING THINGS THEY WANTED TO DO. AND WE WOULD GET THE SAME INFORMATION,
    RIGHT? AND BECAUSE IT'S PIXAR IT WOULD HAVE HAD GREAT FILMMAKING AND
    MUSIC CUES AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN RATHER SAD INDEED.


    BUT INSTEAD, THEY GIVE US SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY. WE FIRST GET A SIX
    MINUTE SCENE OF THE TWO OF THEM MEETING AS KIDS AND HAVING FUN PLAYING
    ADVENTURE. THE FILM THEN INSTANTLY JUMP CUTS TO THE TWO OF THEM GETTING
    MARRIED, FOLLOWED BY ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE FOUR MINUTE MONTAGES IN
    MOVIE HISTORY. IT TELLS A COMPLETE STORY AND ARC OF THEIR LIVES, EACH
    TRANSITION BUILDING INTO THE NEXT, SOME MOMENTS FULL OF JOY, SOME
    MOMENTS INCREDIBLY SAD, BUT IT'S ALL PURPOSEFULLY TO THE SAME INEVITABLE
    CONCLUSION OF LOSS...


    GO AHEAD. WATCH IT AGAIN AND SEE WHAT THEY BUILT IN SUCH A SHORT TIME...



    *HANDS YOU TISSUE*


    THE TAKEAWAY IS SIMPLE: WE DON'T FEEL SAD BECAUSE SHE DIES...


    WE FEEL SAD BECAUSE WE SAW HOW THE TWO OF THEM LIVED.


    THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU HAVE TO DRAMATIZE YOUR ARCS. YOU HAVE TO PRESENT CHARACTERS WITH JOYS AND WANTS AND THEN PUT THOSE JOYS AND WANTS IN CONFLICT. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE EMOTIONAL RESULTS OF THAT CONFLICT. AND AS UP
    PROVES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY A WORD AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL
    THAT MUCH TIME. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR CHARACTERS WAX PHILOSOPHICAL
    OR DIRECTLY ENGAGE A DEEP THEME OR HAVE THEM SPEAK TO A GRAVE. YOU HAVE
    TO JUST SHOW WHO THEY ARE FIRST. NOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TACT AND JUST
    CAN'T BE CHEAP ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE TO MEAN IT. YOU HAVE TO SHOW THEIR
    LIVES IN AWAY THAT LETS THE AUDIENCES NOT JUST HAVE A PEEK, BUT FULLY
    EXPERIENCE IT. AND IN DOING THAT, AUDIENCES ACROSS THE BOARD WILL JUST
    FUCKING GET IT. THE STORY AND ITS CONFLICT WILL SPEAK TO THEIR
    SOULS. AND FROM THERE YOU CAN TAKE THEM ON ON A JOURNEY FULL OF ALL
    KINDS OF CHANGES AND TRANSITIONS, NEARLY EVERY FACET AND CAPACITY OF
    LIFE.


    WITH UP, WE WON'T ACTUALLY CRY JUST BECAUSE
    CARL'S WIFE HAS DIED, WE CRY BECAUSE ELLIE DIED. AND ELLIE WAS A
    CHARACTER WE KNEW AND UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE WE WATCHED HER GROW AND
    UNDERSTOOD HER AS IT ALL UNFOLDED. WE TRULY FELT LIKE WE KNEW HER FROM
    JUST 4 DAMN MINUTES OF SCREEN TIME.


    FOR BOTH CARL AND ELLIE, THAT IS PERFECT CHARACTERIZATION.


    AND HULK ARGUES THAT EVEN THE MOST TEPID FOLLOW-THROUGH OF
    DRAMATIZATION AND EARNING THE POTENTIAL OF LOSS WILL YIELD SOLID AND
    MEANINGFUL RESULTS. FOR FILMS THAT CAN ACHIEVE INTIMACY OF CHARACTERS
    WITHIN THE STORY ALWAYS SEEM TO BE THE ONES THAT RESONATE WHEN THE
    CONFLICTS COME TO FRUITION...


    WHICH MEANS THE BIG FAILURE OF MAN OF STEEL IS THAT IT SEEMS TO HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO DRAMATIZE EVEN THE MOST BASIC CHARACTERIZATION... ON ANY LEVEL... FOR, LIKE, ANYONE.

  • Okay, Bob Chipman, we need to talk.

    I love MovieBob. I enjoy your other work, too. You're one of the most intelligent critics out there.

    But why oh WHY are you resorting to the most maligned aspect of internet critics: the arbitrary and annoying plot?
  • edited 2013-07-13 20:54:50
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Triplepost.

    ^ Who is MovieBob?  Can you tell me more about him.


    HULK TALKED ABOUT THIS DYNAMIC LAST YEAR IN THIS OLD HULK PIECE FOR THE NEW YORKER WHEN HULK SAID THE FOLLOWING: "ONE OF THE ONGOING PROBLEMS OF BLOCKBUSTER CINEMA THESE DAYS IS ASSUMED EMPATHY.
    IT’S AS IF OUR STORYTELLERS JUST PLOP A FILM IN OUR LAPS AND SAY,
    'HERE’S OUR MAIN CHARACTER AND WE’RE GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOU’RE
    INTERESTED IN THEM FOR THAT REASON ALONE. THEY’RE THE MAIN CHARACTER!'”
    WHICH IS NOTHING MORE THEN SHALLOW ATTEMPTS AT STORYTELLING SHORTCUTS.
    FILMMAKERS ARE GOOD AT TRYING TO WRING THE AFFECTION OUT OF YOU WITH
    CINEMATIC LANGUAGE, BUT IT'S LIKE THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO TETHER AN
    ACTUAL MEANINGFUL ETHOS BETWEEN CHARACTERS AND THUS THEY HAVE NO IDEA
    HOW TO MAKE YOU CONNECT TO THE PEOPLE YOU ARE SEEING ON SCREEN.


    AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU REALIZE MAN OF STEEL IS ALL ABOUT ASSUMED EMPATHY.


    WHEN HE PUNCHES DOWN THE DRONE AT THE END OF THE FILM AND THE SOLDIER
    ASKS HOW THEY KNOW HE HAS AMERICAN INTERESTS AT HEART, HE JUST SHOUTS
    BACK "I'm from Kansas!" IT'S DEFINITELY A FUNNY LINE, BUT UTTERLY
    SYMBOLIC OF THE REDUCTIVE SHORTHAND THE FILM IS CONSTANTLY TRYING TO
    ACHIEVE. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HIS REASON FOR SAVING EVERYTHING. HE SIMPLY
    IS A GOOD PERSON. HE IS SIMPLY FROM AMERICA. WHEN THEY WANT HIM TO
    PRETEND TO BE CONFLICTED ABOUT THESE THINGS HE SO OBVIOUSLY IS, THEY
    HAVE HIM SAY THINGS LIKE "I'm conflicted!" AND THEY ASSUME THOSE THINGS
    WILL SUFFICE. WHEN HULK USES TERM "LIP SERVICE" THAT'S EXACTLY THE
    MEANINGLESS, EMPTY JABBERING THAT HULK MEANS. IT'S A MOVIE TRYING TO
    EXPLAIN AWAY A PROBLEM WITH REDUCTIVE STATEMENTS, RATHER THAN
    DRAMATIZING ONE. RATHER THAN EXPRESSING THOSE IDEAS AS STORY AND CINEMA.
    WHICH SUCKS FOR US BECAUSE TRUST, CARE AND UNDERSTANDING HAVE TO BE
    BUILT ON SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL, MOST NOTABLY: A SUCCESSION OF
    CHRONOLOGICAL EVENTS WE EXPERIENCE WITH THE CHARACTER.


    THINK ABOUT UP AGAIN AND HOW MUCH IT ACHIEVES IN THE WAY OF MAKING YOU CARE ABOUT SOMEONE IN 4 SIMPLE MINUTES. COMPARE THAT ECONOMY TO MAN OF STEEL,
    WHICH IS CONSTANTLY TRYING TO GET BY ON OUR SHORTHAND WITH SUPERMAN
    INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DO THE DRAMATIC WORK AND INSTEAD IT JUST ENDS UP
    TREADING WATER FOR 40 MINUTES WITH ALL THIS NEAT TEXTURE AND PRETTY
    SHOTS. THEY FAIL TO REALIZE THAT IT TAKES SO LONG (AND STILL DOESN'T GET
    THERE) BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE "NORMAL ORIGIN WORK" IN THE
    FIRST PLACE, SO IT PRACTICALLY HAS TO BEG US TO PROJECT OUR ESTABLISHED
    FEELINGS OF PREVIOUS EVENTS AND CHARACTERS. LOOK IT'S SMALLVILLE!
    IT'S THE KENTS! IT'S LOIS LANE! AND PERRY WHITE! AND A GIRL VERSION OF
    JIMMY OLSEN! AND YEAH, THEY BARELY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO THAT STRIKES US
    WITH POSITIVE OR INDEPENDENT RESPONSE, BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LIKE THEM!

  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    ANSWER TIME, COME ON GRAB YOUR FRIENDS

    Yes, Anonus is very handsome! ^_^

    He does have curly hair and glasses, though he's not nerdy-looking in the Hollywood stereotype sense.

    Of course we have autistic superpowers! Why just today he deduced our hotel's secret identity.

    No pony fursuits. At least not yet. Maybe a later meetup. :P

    Python is great if it's got "Monty" before it

    Yes, we do like each other IRL. We're Anonymous Freaking Avenue, silly, we're inseparable real life or internet!
    D'awwwww.
  • edited 2013-07-13 20:57:45
    ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Is Anonus blond?  Are you blond?


    THINK ABOUT ONE OF THE BETTER SEQUENCES IN MAN OF STEEL
    WHERE SUPERMAN LEARNS TO FLY (HULK WOULD SAY "FINALLY FLY" BUT THE FILM
    IS OUT OF SEQUENCE). HE STARTS JUMPING AROUND ALL HAPPILY AND THEN
    FINALLY WHEN HE TAKES FLIGHT AND CIRCLES AROUND THE GLOBE, SMILING IN
    GLORIOUS FASHION. WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN WITH SUPERMAN 1000 TIMES, BUT
    IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S ONE OF THE FEW MOMENTS OF HIS CHARACTERIZATION
    THAT THEY BOTHER TO EARN IN THIS FILM. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A CHARACTER'S ORIGIN FEEL LIKE THE AFOREMENTIONED 4 MINUTES IN UP,
    YOU HAVE TO EARN IT. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRAMATIZE (NOT EXPLAIN) WHO
    A CHARACTER IS, WHY THEY ARE THAT WAY AND HOW THEY GOT THERE (AND THEN
    BRING THOSE SAME THINGS INTO DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THE STORY). IT'S NOT
    THE ORIGIN STORY THAT'S OUR PROBLEM, IT'S OUR LAZINESS.


    1. SUPERMAN CAN SEE LOTS OF LAYERS OF THE THINGS OF EARTH AND BURNS A
    DOOR HANDLE WITH HIS EYES. HIS MOM SHOWS UP TO TALK HIM DOWN FROM BEING
    ANGRY. AT FIRST HULK THINKS THIS IS GOING TO BE THE STARTING POINT FOR
    THEIR RELATIONSHIP.



    2. CLARK SAVES A BUS FULL OF KIDS, BUT SUPERMAN'S DAD THOUGHT HE SHOULD
    LET KIDS DIE RATHER THAN SAVE THEM (ALSO THAT HE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD
    AND HAS TO BE A GOOD PERSON! ... PA KENT IS KINDA NUTS).



    3. SUPERMAN WANTS TO PUNCH BULLIES, BUT DOESN'T. HIS DAD COMES OVER AND
    TALKS ABOUT IT UNEVENLY AGAIN (OH YEAH, APPARENTLY HIS DAD IS OFF TO
    THE SIDE WATCHING THIS, DOING NOTHING).



    4. SUPERMAN LETS HIS DAD DIE TO GO SAVE A DOG WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE
    (SHORTHAND!) AND PROTECT HIS SECRET IN A SITUATION WHICH HAS ABOUT A
    MILLION WAYS TO RESOLVE IT WITHOUT REVEALING SAID SECRET.



    NOW, THE FUN PART: LET'S EXAMINE THE WAYS THOSE FLASHBACKS COME TO LATER MATTER ON THE STORY / CHARACTER LEVEL!



    1. ASIDE FROM ESTABLISHING THAT MOMMY IS THE SUPERMAN WHISPERER AND
    THEN NEVER USING THAT RELATIONSHIP TO HELP HIM AGAIN, THERE IS JUST ONE
    MOMENTARY BIT WHERE ZOD GOES THROUGH THE SAME "LAYERS" THING OF
    ADJUSTING TO HOW TO SEE LIFE ON EARTH... THAT'S IT.



    2. PA KENT'S CRAZY NONSENSICAL SPEECH BECOMES THE MAIN REASON CLARK IS
    QUICK TO TALK ABOUT HIS HESITATION TO SAVE PEOPLE, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY
    SHOWING NO ACTIVE HESITATION TO SAVE PEOPLE.



    3. AFTER LEARNING NOT TO PUNCH BULLIES, SUPERMAN BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF
    ZOD AFTER HE THREATENS HIS MOM, THEN BEATS HIM UP FOR REST OF MOVIE,
    BEFORE FINALLY MURDERING THE DUDE.



    4. AFTER HIS FATHER DIES, WE IN NO REAL WAY SEE HOW THIS IMPACTS HIM
    OTHER THAN THE FACT HE HAS HAS RUN AWAY IN SECRET AND KEEPS SAVING
    PEOPLE ANYWAY.

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    plots and stories

    emotional investment

    I never get any of this stuff
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    this is why I am not a writer
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
  • so he  key on my keyboard is broken.

    has nice.

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    what you say
  • The sadness will last forever.
    mousssse
  • oh my god is like half of hem

    fck how do i fix his

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    looks like we lost Mo'
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Aliroz said:

    Is Anonus blond?  Are you blond?

    If I recall correctly, Anonus is black and CA is of mixed race. Both have rather dark hair.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I think they're both of mixed race. But right on the dark hair.
  • fucking christ 

    my keyboard  is busted. typing  this  with  the on-screen one. half the buttons just don't work.

    help

  • It might be a problem with the keyboard connection.try plugging itin and out.

    laptop.
  • I don't think USB keyboards are all that expensive.
  • can't do a system restore either in case its a software problem. no backup points apparently.
  • Kexruct said:

    I don't think USB keyboards are all that expensive.

    i have $0.00, Kexruct.
  • edited 2013-07-13 21:34:19
    Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I've seen USB keyboards for like $10

    ^$10 too much then, I guess!
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I'm not blond, my hair is a very dark brown

    My skin is a light shade of brown

    The two of us slept all day after getting back from COSI
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    sleeping all day, that's what I call a good time!
  • i don't  know if this thing is under warranty or not either...
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Sleep is good.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Speaking of which, I have slept two hours out of the last 34

    I should not be awake
  • i dont understand why these things always happen to me.
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