The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Heat is bad /meaningful contribution.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Without heat we would be very cold
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    somebody I talked to today claimed to have a 16,000-year-old archaeological site virtually in his backyard

    YNTKT
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I am sleepdep'd
  • Without heat we would be very cold

    image
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    give me the Nobel Prize, dammit
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022

    I am sleepdep'd

    AU and I are too

    At least, we were, but I slept a little (which my body deemed enough) and he's sleeping right now
  • I am sleepdep'd

    AU and I are too

    At least, we were, but I slept a little (which my body deemed enough) and he's sleeping right now
    Oh yeah, you two are met up.

    How is that anyway?
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    we want all the gritty details
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    It's fun!

    We went to the science museum today. That was a lot of fun; I hadn't been there since 2010 and of course Anonus had never been...

    Now we're just relaxing back at the hotel, since we were both tired as fuck (though unfortunately "tiredness" tends not to show on me very much)
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    is Anonus super-handsome in real life
  • edited 2013-07-13 18:58:47
    ಠ_ಠ
    Herp derp
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Is he a short nerdy guy with big glasses and short curly hair? :)
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Do you guys double your autistic power together? :) Do you utter words or do the sentences just pass through the aether into one another's minds?
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Are you guys wearing fur suits that look like ponies? :D
  • is Anonus super-handsome in real life

    do you even need to ask this question
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    uguuuuuu Central Avenue chan~ this saddle is so tight

    that's because you're trotting all wrong, Anonus-kun! I bet if I hit you with this crop you would trot the right way

    but it's hard with you on top of me...

    ohhh~ is it?

    that is not what i meant

    sexytiem
  • edited 2013-07-13 19:13:14
    Touch the cow. Do it now.
    sleep deprivation sez yes

    ^perv
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    >:D
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Miko how is that Python stuff coming along
  • edited 2013-07-13 19:16:44
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    heyyy I bet they're fusioning their power as we speak and morphing into super--

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  • edited 2013-07-13 19:16:34
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Miko how is that Python stuff coming along
    I got to chapter 5 of I-do-not-know-how-many. ^_^ My mommy made it hard to read so I stopped. >_> I will keep reading tonight though. :D
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Do you guys like each other irl? I wanna know aaaaaaalllllllll about it and also your grocery store adventures that must be happening without me.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    What if like you both met in real life but you were so nervous and awkward that you just stared and never said anything and then each of you went home and never talked to each other ever again. o_o
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    soooooo what do internet people do when they meet irl? I am so curious. :D
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    What if like they both just sat there and talked about roads and media companies the whole time.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    What if they went to a water park and had like mountains of fun? :)
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    omg what if like they actually are combining into one being? :O
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    How many secret staff threads are there about me? Probably a lot. u_u I am a bad member because I unleash my imagination like this.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Dogs are great. :D And so is Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3!
  • You know what is great? This coffee beverage from caribou. You know what is really not great? brain freeze
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    How is auto racing even a legal sport
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Miko said:

    Are you guys wearing fur suits that look like ponies? :D

    I wish that I could remember Jade's rant about fursuits, because it would be perfect here.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    You know what is great? This coffee beverage from caribou. You know what is really not great? brain freeze

    Brain freeze is a sucky thing.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I wish that I could remember Jade's rant about fursuits, because it would be perfect here.
    What is this nonsense about fursuits!!! You do not own a fursuit. You
    think ANTHROPOMORPHIC FAUNA are really cute and enchanting and all, but
    it has never occurred to you to dress as one. Sure, it is fun to imagine
    what it would be like to run wild with a pack of wolves, or purr and
    frolic with a litter of kittens, but dressing up as an animal just seems
    ridiculous. It would still just be a silly girl draped in a raggedy
    synthetic tufty piece of crap, and seriously who are you trying to kid
    with that sort of baloney!
  • I think some fursuits are pretty cool.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    does a girl dressed in vaguely cow-like attire count as a sort of fursuit
  • edited 2013-07-13 19:37:28
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    The irony is that Jade becomes an actual anthro furry. ^_^

    ^ I don't think so since a fur suit covers the whole body I think, like a Disney World costume.
  • I think fursuits are almost universally kind of creepy looking, but as that is a personal opinion I'm not going to fault an entire internet group just for thinking they look okay.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I don't understand how a fur suit could be attractive to anyone but... fetishes, right? :p
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Jaoooooooooooooooo~! :3


  • If my tablet would get along with vanilla id post some really neat pics of fursuits
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    ko you have more than 26,000 posts. :)
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Pangur Ban has more than 28,000.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    remember that time I tangled with Cinnamon Toast Crunch in the Mos Eisley Cantina
  • One of the perks of reading Homestuck is it makes reading the surprisingly insightful articles of FILM CRIT HULK a lot easier to read.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)


    HULK'S TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE IN AN OLD-AS-HELL ESSAY, BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO UNDERSTAND IN THE FIELD OF CRITICISM (OR ANYTHING REALLY) IS THE "THE TANGIBLE DETAILS THEORY." TO EXPLAIN: WE KNOW IN OUR GUT IF WE LIKE OR DISLIKE SOMETHING WHEN WE WATCH IT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ACTUALLY EXPLAIN WHY WE LIKE OR DISLIKE SOMETHING, WE JUST END UP GIVING OUR REASONS BASED ON OUR RELATIVE LEVEL UNDERSTANDING OF THE THING ITSELF.


    FOR INSTANCE, HULK DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT CARS.


    STILL, HULK DRIVES A CAR EVERY DAY (JUMPING AROUND IS TIRING). HULK
    KNOWS WHAT CARS HULK THINKS LOOK COOL (1963 CHEVY STINGRAYS). HULK CAN
    GET IN A CAR AND TELL YOU IF IT FEELS GOOD TO DRIVE OR NOT. WHICH ALL
    MEANS THAT HULK BUYS AND CONSUMES CARS IN A TOTALLY FUNCTIONAL STATE. BUT HULK DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THEM.
    HULK COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW THEY WORK OR WHAT IS WHAT IN AN ENGINE. AND
    SO HULK'S OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT A CAR IS "GOOD OR NOT" SHOULDN'T
    REALLY BE CONSIDERED WITH THE SAME VALIDITY AS SOMEONE WHO CAN ACTUALLY
    ENGINEER OR PROPERLY FIX A CAR. THEY SIMPLY KNOW WHAT MAKES FOR A GOOD
    CAR. BUT THE THING IS THAT WE ALL HAVE OUR RELATIVE AREAS OF EXPERTISE.
    MEANING THAT SAME MECHANIC CAN WATCH A MOVIE AND GO "that fucking sucked
    cause I hated his stupid face!" AND YET THEY CAN SIMPLY HEAR HULK'S
    ENGINE AND IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM FROM THE SOUND IT MAKES ALONE. IT IS ABOUT EXPERTISE IN A FIELD.


    BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO MOVIES WE HAVE THIS ODD HABIT OF THINKING THAT:


    1) WE ALL HAVE A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE JUST BECAUSE WE ARE AVID CONSUMERS.


    2) ACTUAL EXPERTS DON'T EXIST.


    AND NEITHER OF WHICH IS ALL THAT TRUE. IT'S THE SAME REASON SO MANY
    PEOPLE JUST ASSUME THEY CAN WRITE A SCRIPT / STORY OR BE AN ACTOR
    WITHOUT MUCH EXPERIENCE (HINT: THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT VERY OFTEN). AND
    IT'S JUST A FAILURE TO SEE HOW MUCH OF WHAT THEY ARE ENGAGING IS
    ACTUALLY TECHNICAL OR BUILT ON EXPERIENCE. WHAT MAKES IT SO FUNNY IS
    THAT IT'S THE KIND OF THINKING YOU RARELY SEE IN SPORTS. NOBODY ASSUMES
    THEY CAN JUST RUN OUT ON THE FIELD AND STRIKE OUT THE SIDE (IF YOU DON'T
    LIKE BASEBALL, THAT MEANS "DO REALLY GOOD"). PEOPLE DRIVE EVERYDAY, BUT
    NO ONE ASSUMES THEY CAN JUST HOP INTO THE DAYTONA 500 AND COMPETE. BUT
    FOR SOME REASON WE DO MAKE THIS ASSUMPTION WITH MOVIES ALL THE TIME. WE
    ASSUME THAT JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THE END RESULT OF HOW A MEDIA
    EXPERIENCE AFFECTS US, WE THEREFORE UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKED ON
    US. AND IT GIVES RISE TO ONGOING HABITS OF OPINION THAT MAY BE TOTALLY
    JUSTIFIED ON AN EMOTIONAL LEVEL, BUT THEY ARE NOT "RIGHT" IN THE WAY
    THEY ARE DIAGNOSING WHAT IS GOOD AND BAD. FOR INSTANCE, SOMEONE CAN
    DISLIKE SOPHIE'S CHOICE BECAUSE IT MADE THEM
    SAD, BUT THAT DOES NOT VALIDATE THEIR OPINION THAT IT IS "A BAD MOVIE."
    IT DEPENDS ON A CRUCIAL UNDERSTANDING OF FUNCTION, NOT MERE EFFECT.


    AGAIN, THE THING ABOUT TANGIBLE DETAILS IS THAT WE ALL HAVE OUR
    RELATIVE CAPACITIES TO PERCEIVE BEYOND THEM OR FALL VICTIM TO THEM. FOR
    INSTANCE, TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE MAY WATCH NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
    AND BOTH LIKE IT, BUT ONE WILL JUSTIFY IT WITH SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE
    "It was awesome they had the gunfight in the hotel!" WHEREAS THE OTHER
    COULD HAVE MORE THEMATIC, NUANCED LEANINGS AND SAY: "The ending is just a
    perfect encapsulation of how one essentially 'retires' from the world
    of material pursuits when they've seen the cost of those pursuits and
    the cavernous loss that it creates! The constancy of death is haunting!"
    BOTH CAME TO THE SAME EVALUATION OF "GOOD" THROUGH RADICALLY DIFFERENT
    MEANS. THE SAME WOULD BE TRUE FOR PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T LIKE THE MOVIE. ONE
    PERSON CAN JUSTIFY THEIR DISLIKE BY SAYING "I thought the ending was
    stupid! I didn't get it! I wish we saw him get killed!" WHEREAS SOMEONE
    ELSE CAN SAY "I have a long-winded explanation for how the approach to
    the ending does not satisfy me on a cathartic level, even though that's
    totally the point of this movie and it builds to that message
    beautifully!" ...OKAY SOMEONE WOULD NEVER SAY IT LIKE THAT, BUT HULK
    LOVES THAT MOVIE SO DEAL WITH IT.


    THE POINT IS THAT WE COULD JUST CHALK THESE DIFFERENCES IN OPINION OVER THE MOVIE UP TO A MATTER OF DRUTHERS, BUT WHILE EVERYONE IS CERTAINLY ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION BEING RIGHT.
    THAT'S SIMPLY NOT WHAT SUBJECTIVITY IS ABOUT, YET WE MAKE THIS MISTAKE
    ALL THE TIME. JUST BECAUSE OPINIONS AREN'T FACTS DOES NOT MEAN THAT SOME
    OPINIONS AREN'T MORE COHERENT, HELPFUL AND PRODUCTIVE THAN OTHERS. AND
    THE OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "The gun fight is awesome!" AND THE
    "perfect encapsulation of..." IS THE QUALITY OF INSIGHT. IT'S THE
    ABILITY TO ENGAGE THE TEXT FOR ITS EXPRESSED PURPOSE, AND THEN THEIR
    RESPECTIVE ABILITIES TO PROVIDE AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS TO THE READER,
    FAR BEYOND THE LAME CONCLUSION OF BAD/GOOD WITHIN THE OPINION ITSELF.


    THAT'S WHY HULK COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT THE ONGOING CRITICAL
    DISCUSSION OF "AGREEMENT" AND "WORTH." YOU ALWAYS SEE ARGUMENTS LIKE
    "Oh, I love that critic! I always agree with them!" (WHICH ONLY MAKES
    SENSE AS A BUYING GUIDE, NOT FOR INSIGHT) OR "That critic thought that movie
    was the best of the year!? What an idiot! It's clearly only the 8th
    best movie of the year!" THAT STUFF ACTUALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
    MOVIES OR HOW THEY WORK OR ANYTHING THAT IS HELPFUL TO YOU. INSTEAD,
    HULK WANTS TO READ A CRITIC TO SEE HOW THEIR MIND MOVES. HULK WANTS
    RECOMMENDATIONS OR PRO-MOVIE ARGUMENTS THAT HULK HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
    HULK DOESN'T JUST WANT TO KNOW ANOTHER OPINION EXISTS, HULK WANTS TO
    EXPAND HULK'S MIND AND GAIN UNDERSTANDING OF CINEMA HISTORY OR HOW IT
    WORKS. SUBJECTIVITY IS ONLY REALLY MEANT TO BE A CAUTIONING REMINDER
    OVER OUR CERTAINTY AND A WAY TO ENCOURAGE GROWTH. SUBJECTIVITY IS WHY WE
    HAVE TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER AND NOT BE 100% SURE OF OUR OWN OPINIONS,
    BUT IT IS NOT WHAT MAKES US ALL EQUALLY RIGHT.
    SURE, MOVIES ARE THESE GRAND ARTISTIC THINGS THAT WE ALL HAVE EMOTIONAL
    REACTIONS TO, BUT THERE REALLY ARE THINGS LIKE CRAFT, COHESION, PURPOSE
    AND THE EFFECT ON THE AUDIENCE, WHICH THEN MEANS IT'S ABOUT OUR ABILITY
    TO CONTEXTUALIZE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT MATTERS, NOT THE SHOUTS OF
    "This is what I thought, dammit!!!" SERIOUSLY, JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T
    COME TO DEFINITIVE CONCLUSIVE STATEMENTS WITH ART DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T
    DO OUR DAMNEDEST TO ESTABLISH A FIRMER GRIP ON THE NOT-SO-TANGIBLE
    DETAILS THAT HIDE BENEATH THE SURFACE AND UNVEIL THE REAL ENGINEERING OF MOVIES.


    HULK FEELS LIKE THAT SIMPLE FACT GETS LOST ALL THE TIME: MOVIES ARE METICULOUSLY ENGINEERED.
    THEY TAKE YEARS TO DEVELOP AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO CRAFT
    THEM (WHICH MEANS THE FAULT OF BAD MOVIES IS OFTEN DUE TO LARGER
    CONCEPTUAL MISUNDERSTANDINGS OF PURPOSE AND EFFECT AND NOT PURE
    INABILITY). THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS INHERENTLY LAYERED BENEATH THE
    TANGIBLE DETAILS. AND SINCE THEY ARE CRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY, HULK ARGUES
    IT IS NOT ONLY FAIR TO ENGAGE THEM ON THE LEVEL OF SAID METICULOUS
    CRAFT, BUT SHOULD ULTIMATELY BE REQUIRED IN A WAY. FOR THE MORE
    YOU ENGAGE THE MOVIE ON ALL THE TERMS IT'S TRYING TO ENGAGE YOU, THE
    MORE COMPLETE AND ACCURATE THE EVALUATION!


    OKAY, BREATHE HULKY.


    SO.


    BEYOND THE PUSH-PULL OF THE RELATIVITY OF OPINIONS, HERE'S THE REAL
    REASON THE TANGIBLE DETAILS THEORY MATTERS: IF THERE IS NOTHING ON THE
    SURFACE THAT IS SO OBVIOUSLY BAD, THEN THE NON-EXPERT CAN'T TELL IF THERE'S SOMETHING ACTUALLY WRONG.

    IF HULK DOESN'T ACTUALLY NOTICE A PROBLEM WITH HULK'S CAR THEN HULK IS
    JUST GOING TO ASSUME IT'S WORKING FINE! (THAT'S EXACTLY WHY HULK ISN'T A
    MECHANIC.)
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”

    I think some fursuits are pretty cool.

    I didn't say that there weren't a few good examples. I merely meant to imply that I dislike most.


    Kexruct said:

    One of the perks of reading Homestuck is it makes reading the surprisingly insightful articles of FILM CRIT HULK a lot easier to read.

    I love Film Crit Hulk.
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