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  • This is a pretty common myth.

    I'm sure he'll hang around doing something distinctly non-musical, but much like 50 Cent and to a lesser extent Dr. Dre, he's not going to be making a big musical comeback anytime soon. Honestly he hasn't had a good album or mixtape in awhile (his last album was alright but was saved mostly by guest stars like Tech N9Ne and Busta Rhymes). Honestly most pop-star rappers make very little of their money off of their music, which is why Lil Wayne is simultaneously "pop" without actually being popular. He's more a cultural icon than a respected musician.

    This is what I was talking about, dunno where this whole "myth" thing came from

    I've known for a long time that the likes of Dre and Suge Knight stay behind the scenes working, which is essentially resting on their laurels but if these two (including this Wayne guy) ever want to make a comeback it would not be difficult for them to do so by any stretch of the imagination. 



    OK maybe I should've said "relevant" instead of popular.

    Point is no one in the hip-hop community cares about them anymore. I'm pretty sure if Dr. Dre dropped his perpetually-in-progress Detox album today, no one would give a shit unless it featured Kendrick on a few tracks (which it well could, Dre's been trying to ride the kid's coattails and the last track of GKMC was a tacked-on Dre collab called "Compton" that is generally seen as the weakest track on the entire album).

    Also Suge Knight was never a musician. Dude is probably the most hated figure in hip-hop honestly.

  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    huh, I didn't know that Bob Kendrick was a rapper :P
  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Also Suge Knight was never a musician. Dude is probably the most hated figure in hip-hop honestly.

    Even more than Hip-Hop Hitler?
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.

    Also Suge Knight was never a musician. Dude is probably the most hated figure in hip-hop honestly.

    Doesn't matter. He's done very well for himself in the actual industry side of things much like Dre has. I don't what it is, but these guys seem to do very well in that environment. Compared to most folks who the industry chews up and spits out, they're uncanny. 
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
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  • i guess i can understand getting a medal for operating a drone well


    but like it being higher than a purple heart does not make a lot of sense in my opinion, because i don't think piloting a drone is dangerous?
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Humanity, why are you such a screwup at everything?  Your skin is an inferior material that is completely unsuited for the making of clothes (especially shoes), your eyeballs are too weak and soft to bounce, all of your organs are basically useless outside of our body, your bodies are mostly water so you're all squishy and stuff, you can't stick to walls like flies, you can't fly like a hummingbird, you aren't all stripey like a stripey-thing, you don't have that awesome pentachromic-or-whatever-it-is-called vision that pigeons have, you don't regrow teeth you lose like a shark, you can't squirt ink, you have no tail or claws, and your right hand is on the arm that should have your left hand and vice versa (you guys look so weird with the back of your hands having your thumbs in he middle and your pinkies on the edges, that just isn't right), you don't lay eggs, you don't make honey or produce a sugary drink for ants to eat, and you have underdeveloped senses of taste and smell; seriously, humanity, in a world that contains platypi, Hydra/Medusae, cephalopods, slugs, and spiders, you're kind of embarrassing.

    Oh, wait, humans have hats; and are thus cool and stylish.
  • people are smart and have opposable thumbs
  • Also Suge Knight was never a musician. Dude is probably the most hated figure in hip-hop honestly.

    Doesn't matter. He's done very well for himself in the actual industry side of things much like Dre has. I don't what it is, but these guys seem to do very well in that environment. Compared to most folks who the industry chews up and spits out, they're uncanny. 
    Suge Knight really isn't doing very well for himself. He hasn't been for a long time in fact. He's currently on probation, actually.

    Also saying that it doesn't matter that he's not a musician when we're talking about music is uhhh

  • I just wanted to ask you to please not use the term "slut-shaming". "Slut" is a slur used to oppress women, and by saying "slut-shaming" you are still calling a woman a slut (which is completely missing the point- no woman is a slut).
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    Suge Knight really isn't doing very well for himself. He hasn't been for a long time in fact. He's currently on probation, actually.

    Also saying that it doesn't matter that he's not a musician when we're talking about music is uhhh

    I'm repeating what I heard from the folks who worked with him at Geffen from a dinner party from a few years ago. Anyway, at said party and I was sitting there listening to their talk when he came up and my question was "do you really call him 'Suge Knight' in conversation?" and they replied that they did and continued on to say that he does very well on business side of the industry.  

  • Suge Knight really isn't doing very well for himself. He hasn't been for a long time in fact. He's currently on probation, actually.

    Also saying that it doesn't matter that he's not a musician when we're talking about music is uhhh

    I'm repeating what I heard from the folks who worked with him at Geffen from a dinner party from a few years ago. Anyway, at said party and I was sitting there listening to their talk when he came up and my question was "do you really call him 'Suge Knight' in conversation?" and they replied that they did and continued on to say that he does very well on business side of the industry.  



    I am almost certain those people worked for him and would thus never say a bad thing about him.

    This is because Suge Knight is one of the most underhanded people in the recording industry, and being that this is the recording industry, that's fucking saying something. 

    This is a guy who used to routinely hire squads of thugs with baseball bats to go to rappers' houses and intimidate them into giving him song rights. I'm not necessarily even talking gangsta rappers who you'd possibly expect to deal with this kind of thing, he did this shit to Vanilla Ice, who is about as hardcore as my grandmother.



  • So the NonPlus+ compilation compilation is shaping up to be the release of the year
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    You're right about the recording industry being underhanded as fuck. A few months ago my mom testified in some trial in LA for the widow of songwriter who got cheated out of royalties and this was a 25+ year battle, and it was settled in the widow's favor. That industry is cutthroat as hell and maybe that's why folks like Suge Knight and Dre survive so well in it. 
  • I'm not really onboard with praising Suge Knight for being a fuckface to be perfectly honest.

    This is the guy who's generally believed to have had Biggie killed.

    edit: whoops

  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    It's kind of horrifying to realise that as awful as the recording industry is now, it was ten times worse even a few decades ago.
  • i guess that's a thing i like about electronic music, usually the labels are run by musicians themselves (like all the big D'n'B labels are run by members of the old guard) and are pretty flexible with what material an artist can put out and encourage creativity and stuff
  • edited 2013-02-22 21:57:24

    i guess it helps that once you have your DAW and some synths and monitors electronic music tends to have low overhead costs
  • The rap industry isn't really nearly as bad now as it used to be either.

    Though why Waka Flocka Flame associates with Suge will forever be beyond me.

    although this is a guy who refers to himself as "Waka Flocka Flame".

  • Triple F Life: Fans, Friends & Family is a rad album name
  • We can do anything if we do it together.

    It's kind of horrifying to realise that as awful as the recording industry is now, it was ten times worse even a few decades ago.

    I think now is a good time to link that classic Steve Albini article for the class.
  • WE GOT DAT SOTHERN HOSPITALITY

    DINNAS DINNAS DINNAS DINNAS

    (Waka Flocka Flame is from New York)

  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    If I were ever to go into music, I would prefer to own my label. No having to deal with record executives, no being cheated, I would own my creations outright and thus I would decide how they are exploited.
  • Araabmuzik released a new solo album.

    ugh.

  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Naney said:

    i guess that's a thing i like about electronic music, usually the labels are run by musicians themselves (like all the big D'n'B labels are run by members of the old guard) and are pretty flexible with what material an artist can put out and encourage creativity and stuff

    Electronic and experimental music are usually pretty low on the sleaze scale as far as the record industry goes, I have noticed; that seems like as good an explanation as any for why this is.

    Well, that and the fact of wanting to pursue experimental and/or electronic music as a career tends to come with a degree of... "earnestness" isn't quite the word. There is no expectation of fame due to the nature of the music in question and the culture surrounding it, so there is less of a cutthroat attitude at work.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Creativity is everything
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    That is my feeling at the moment, anyway
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I totally agree with that.
  • edited 2013-02-22 22:17:23
    THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS

    Re: Words with Friends board game: The funniest part to me is that it's manufactured by Hasbro, i.e., the company that owns Scrabble in the U.S. and Canada.
    Yup! Zynga successfully got Hasbro to back-license their own product. If that isn't a brilliant scam, I don't know what is.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Hi Imi.

    Read that article

    Ugh, I don't ever want to deal with showbiz

    And sometimes I feel guilty about pretending to run ABC Inc, which is probably another part of the copyright cartel :/
  • edited 2013-02-22 22:20:58
    uggggh mother took the computer away again

    i get really sick of it, so i feel compelled to talk about it everyday so you guys get sick of it too
  • reading that steve albini article amused me


    because it reminded me of Current Value's flagrant abuse of limiters
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    One reason I never seriously tried to make it as a musician or author or anything like that is I figured the business end of it would kill me or my creativity or both.
  • Music isn't something you do because you want to, you do it because you have to. I will do it regardless of whether or not I am ever even remotely successful with it.

  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Well, that's basically how I feel about writing, actually.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.



    Electronic and experimental music are usually pretty low on the sleaze scale

    Highest on the sleaze scale: Gospel music. Even the Gospel music part  of the industry is candid about admitting this
  • edited 2013-02-22 22:29:32
    I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I wonder how bad the movie and TV industries are

    Granted those aren't as "artistic" but still


  • Electronic and experimental music are usually pretty low on the sleaze scale

    Highest on the sleaze scale: Gospel music. Even the Gospel music part  of the industry is candid about admitting this
    Somehow this doesn't surprise me.


  • Electronic and experimental music are usually pretty low on the sleaze scale

    Highest on the sleaze scale: Gospel music. Even the Gospel music part  of the industry is candid about admitting this

    Urgh. That made me retch just thinking about it.
  • are they still even recording gospel music
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    Naney said:

    are they still even recording gospel music

    Yes, they are. It's one of the most profitable parts of the recording industry. 
  • At about ten last night, I downloaded Minecraft.

    I snapped out of my trance at two in the morning.
  • Kexruct said:

    At about ten last night, I downloaded Minecraft.

    I snapped out of my trance at two in the morning.



    You'd bought it before but you didn't download it? Dat's silly.

    It's a good game though. I wish I could play it more often but it lags pretty heavily on my laptop.

  • Kasra's fabric mix is great
  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    I have an urge to do what may be the most stereotypically autistic thing I have thought of doing in recent memory.
  • rock back and forth in a pile of blankets due to overstimulation?
  • Kexruct said:

    At about ten last night, I downloaded Minecraft.

    I snapped out of my trance at two in the morning.



    You'd bought it before but you didn't download it? Dat's silly.

    It's a good game though. I wish I could play it more often but it lags pretty heavily on my laptop.


    I bought and downloaded it yesterday. It would wreck my computer, so I got the 360 version.
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