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  • I don't enjoy most music on that level but on the other hand I don't really feel the need to enjoy most music on that level?

    Like the band that happens with the most with me is The Orb. Who I'm pretty sure are quite widely disliked, and aren't really even one of my own favorite groups, although I do like them quite a bit.

    reference.

  • Naney said:


    Naney said:

    And even when I find stuff that I like I don't feel like I'm enjoying it on anything beyond a superficial level.

    how so?
    Like you know when you listen to music and it just... clicks? Like where every sound just fills your thought process and you hear all the things the artist is doing and you can see and feel their effects and it really feels like they are communicating with you, where it makes you feel differently about yourself and the way you relate to the word around you?
    see, I can kind of understand that, but that feeling is so rare for me that I'm just sort of like "uhhhhh what". but yeah.
    Huh, ok then.
  • The Orb. Who I'm pretty sure are quite widely disliked

    I have never heard anything but the highest accolades for them.
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    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa

    I sometimes feel guilty that my favorite rapper is a white guy with a scruffy beard. Is this dumb?



    yes, it's horrible and evil and you should be ashamed. repent to the gods of rap immediately. fucking traitor.

    :(


    also, unrelated but I remember seeing one of your posts about cannibal ox like forever ago and they're pretty cool, so thanks
    They are. I recommend avoiding most of their work post-The Cold Vein though, unfortunately. Vordul has been struggling with various drug problems for years and has put out little material and Vast Aire's kinda gotten lame.
    that's actually pretty sad.
  • Naney said:

    The Orb. Who I'm pretty sure are quite widely disliked

    I have never heard anything but the highest accolades for them.
    I see them junked on as "pop-rave" a lot. Same criticisms Moby etc. get.
  • wha?

    What whack-ass fucks are lumping The Orb in with Moby?


    it's like


    i will go cry now.


    forever.
  • I sometimes feel guilty that my favorite rapper is a white guy with a scruffy beard. Is this dumb?



    yes, it's horrible and evil and you should be ashamed. repent to the gods of rap immediately. fucking traitor.

    :(


    also, unrelated but I remember seeing one of your posts about cannibal ox like forever ago and they're pretty cool, so thanks
    They are. I recommend avoiding most of their work post-The Cold Vein though, unfortunately. Vordul has been struggling with various drug problems for years and has put out little material and Vast Aire's kinda gotten lame.
    that's actually pretty sad.



    It is. Although they got back together for the first time in quite a few years sometime last month, and I think they're making a new album. So maybe something nice'll come of it.

    But yeah one of the downfalls of creating a critical hit that isn't also a commercial hit is that you rarely reap the benefits from it. The Cold Vein is a rap version of The Velvet Underground & Nico. Only a couple hundred people heard the initial release, but most of them went on to become rappers or producers.

  • Naney said:

    wha?


    What whack-ass fucks are lumping The Orb in with Moby?


    it's like


    i will go cry now.


    forever.
    what problems do you have with Moby, good sir.
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    Naney said:

    Like you know when you listen to music and it just... clicks? Like where every sound just fills your thought process and you hear all the things the artist is doing and you can see and feel their effects and it really feels like they are communicating with you, where it makes you feel differently about yourself and the way you relate to the word around you?

    see, I can kind of understand that, but that feeling is so rare for me that I'm just sort of like "uhhhhh what". but yeah.

    Yeah, this.

    Well, kinda, i mean, a lot of music can move me i guess, and it can drastically change how i'm feeling and sometimes how i feel about myself and stuff, but even then it's usually more the right song at the right moment, rather than anything intrinsic to the music. This goes beyond that, i think.

    Like i remember Saeglopur (i think it was) saying something similar and at the time i wasn't sure if i could relate or not, but with hindsight i don't think i could.
  • also continuing on the more general thread of pop music discussion, I would just like to say that I really, genuinely enjoy most of the output of Pat Benatar.

  • edited 2013-01-20 03:28:38

    Moby is ok.


    But Moby and The Orb produce very very different music.


    Also, while Moby's work is primarily derivative (*which is not something I really hold against him or anything*), The Orb is a pioneering act, and highly influential not just in ambient spheres but in electronic music in general.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    I know Moby mainly because Space Ghost ate him
  • I'd dispute The Orb's work not being derivative solely on the fact that a lot of their music is sample-based.

    Of course they did pave the way for almost every popular electronic act that came after, but I feel that's beside the point.

  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Does sample-based = derivative, though?

    To my mind those seem like different things.
  • edited 2013-01-20 03:30:35

    I mean in terms of composition.
    a8 said:

    Does sample-based = derivative, though?

    To my mind those seem like different things.

    also this.
  • some of HudMo's solo work seems very bland to me. Anyone else get this vibe?

    I still like most of it but tracks like this are ehhh.

  • Naney said:

    I mean in terms of composition.

    I don't know shit about composition despite doing it regularly, so I retract my statement.
    a8 said:

    Does sample-based = derivative, though?

    To my mind those seem like different things.

    Yes, but derivative is not a bad thing.
  • ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa

    also continuing on the more general thread of pop music discussion, I would just like to say that I really, genuinely enjoy most of the output of Pat Benatar.

    lol who doesn't like Pat Benetar?

    I'll admit that I'm tired of the people around me only ever talking about HMWYBS when she comes up, as much as I love the song, but that's not even.

  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    i didn't even know who Pat Benatar was until Odradek made a joke about her that went right over my head.
  • also, you know who else likes Pat Benatar, and it's kind of weird but awesome at the same time?

    DJ Spinbad.

    skip to around 1:50 or so if you're not sure why I say that.

  • edited 2013-01-20 03:38:54
    ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    ^^lol oh wooooowwww

    ^it's horrible and evil and you should be ashamed. repent to the gods of rap immediately. fucking traitor.
  • ^^lol oh wooooowwww

    see idk I find things like that awesome.
  • edited 2013-01-20 03:40:57
    ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    I don't want to say it's cute because that sounds condescending but it's cute. it just is. that's my opinion.



    If you're lost you can look  and you will find me
    Time after time
    If you fall I will catch you, I'll be waiting 
    Time after time

    my god I love Cyndi Lauper
  • Yes

    Keep in mind that sound is defined heavily by it's context.

    Let's take a rather famous example:



    Here we can see a whole bunch of songs taken apart and recontextualised into something that has very little to do with any of it's components. It's relationship to the songs it is made up of is tangential at best, it owes far more to the work of big beat fellows Meat Beat Manifesto or any number of Hardcore acts than it does to Ultramagnetic MCs or Rage Against the Machine.
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    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    image
  • Naney said:

    Yes

    Keep in mind that sound is defined heavily by it's context.

    Let's take a rather famous example:



    Here we can see a whole bunch of songs taken apart and recontextualised into something that has very little to do with any of it's components. It's relationship to the songs it is made up of is tangential at best, it owes far more to the work of big beat fellows Meat Beat Manifesto or any number of Hardcore acts than it does to Ultramagnetic MCs or Rage Against the Machine.



    I didn't say it was heavily derivative, just that it was somewhat. 

  • ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    youtubr said:


    Great track from the Satyricon album.

    i'm sorry but when I see "satyricon" I just think hardcore gay roman sex
  • ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    is it mental to occasionally wish you were a man in ancient rome having all the gay sex in the world

    but then to not wish that when you remember they did not have modern plumbing

    ?
  • Viani said:

    The Flying Luttenbachers are shit

    Weasel Walter will eat your firstborn.
  • "Hardcore" is like the least sexy word i can think of.
  • Hardcore punk? sure


    Hardcore techno? great!


    Hardcore sex? Fuck no.
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    Argh, I'm bored. I think I'm going to put my computers away, stop watching Springer and go to sleep. :P
  • edited 2013-01-20 03:54:52
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    The word 'hardcore' primarily makes me think of gravel, to be honest. >_>

    Night, Lee.
  • edited 2013-01-20 03:55:20
    ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    Naney said:

    "Hardcore" is like the least sexy word i can think of.

    Naney said:

    Hardcore punk? sure



    Hardcore techno? great!


    Hardcore sex? Fuck no.
    I want to argue, but I don't think I can.

    I don't know, when I think hardcore I think ANGRY BALLS TO THE WALL VIGOROUS FUCKING

    LIKE THAT CRAZY FUCKING WHERE THEY PICK YOU UP AND THROW YOU ON THE COUCH AND JUST FUCKING PLOW YOU INTO NEXT WEEK THAT, WHEN DISCUSSED ONLINE, MUST BE TYPED IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING INTENSE.

    and in turn it becomes hot to me.

    night night lee lee
  • "plow" is the second least sexy sex word

    the least sexy is "snog".

  • i am ok with plow

    yeah snog is defs the least sexy though.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    'Snog' makes me giggle because i have the mental maturity of a five year old.

    Angry sex does not seem appealing to me.
  • edited 2013-01-20 03:59:10
    ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    i dunno. Like, sometimes it's not sexy, sometimes it is. It's like, if you're just having a nice evening with your boyfriend, hardcore isn't really applicable. but if you're at a concert and all of a sudden the music just infects your body and you need an outlet and you're hornier than you've ever been in your life and there's like a secluded field nearby hidden by a shady tree and you want it quick and nasty and primal and wild and uncontained, brutal hardcore sex.

    I guess it's a mood thing.

    and yeah snog sounds gross, it rhymes with hog

    ^Eh, it's an acquired taste.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Good night Lee.

    HARDCORE:

  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    If you're a brit or hang around a brit, I think "Snog" is a bit more attractive sounding...granted "snog" is sorta just not a pretty sounding word.
  • edited 2013-01-20 04:01:18
    ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    better example, you and your SO are arguing, all of a sudden the mood hits you, you fuck each other angrily and forget what you were arguing about.

    it's a win-win
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    Justice42 said:

    If you're a brit or hang around a brit, I think "Snog" is a bit more attractive sounding...granted "snog" is sorta just not a pretty sounding word.


    It was the kind of word we used to laugh about when we were kids though.

    To me it brings to mind gossip magazines and boastful teenagers, and these are not attractive.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
  • ~*tasteless*~
    大學的年同性戀毛皮

    aaaaa
    I do sort of think "brit" when I hear snog, but like, annoying cockney teenage brit.

    "aww yeah, so Braaaaaad came ova to mah house the otha day, we totally snogged you guis"
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