I don't enjoy most music on that level but on the other hand I don't really feel the need to enjoy most music on that level?
Like the band that happens with the most with me is The Orb. Who I'm pretty sure are quite widely disliked, and aren't really even one of my own favorite groups, although I do like them quite a bit.
And even when I find stuff that I like I don't feel like I'm enjoying it on anything beyond a superficial level.
how so?
Like you know when you listen to music and it just... clicks? Like where every sound just fills your thought process and you hear all the things the artist is doing and you can see and feel their effects and it really feels like they are communicating with you, where it makes you feel differently about yourself and the way you relate to the word around you?
see, I can kind of understand that, but that feeling is so rare for me that I'm just sort of like "uhhhhh what". but yeah.
also, unrelated but I remember seeing one of your posts about cannibal ox like forever ago and they're pretty cool, so thanks
They are. I recommend avoiding most of their work post-The Cold Vein though, unfortunately. Vordul has been struggling with various drug problems for years and has put out little material and Vast Aire's kinda gotten lame.
also, unrelated but I remember seeing one of your posts about cannibal ox like forever ago and they're pretty cool, so thanks
They are. I recommend avoiding most of their work post-The Cold Vein though, unfortunately. Vordul has been struggling with various drug problems for years and has put out little material and Vast Aire's kinda gotten lame.
that's actually pretty sad.
It is. Although they got back together for the first time in quite a few years sometime last month, and I think they're making a new album. So maybe something nice'll come of it.
But yeah one of the downfalls of creating a critical hit that isn't also a commercial hit is that you rarely reap the benefits from it. The Cold Vein is a rap version of The Velvet Underground & Nico. Only a couple hundred people heard the initial release, but most of them went on to become rappers or producers.
Like you know when you listen to music and it just... clicks? Like where every sound just fills your thought process and you hear all the things the artist is doing and you can see and feel their effects and it really feels like they are communicating with you, where it makes you feel differently about yourself and the way you relate to the word around you?
see, I can kind of understand that, but that feeling is so rare for me that I'm just sort of like "uhhhhh what". but yeah.
Yeah, this.
Well, kinda, i mean, a lot of music can move me i guess, and it can drastically change how i'm feeling and sometimes how i feel about myself and stuff, but even then it's usually more the right song at the right moment, rather than anything intrinsic to the music. This goes beyond that, i think.
Like i remember Saeglopur (i think it was) saying something similar and at the time i wasn't sure if i could relate or not, but with hindsight i don't think i could.
also continuing on the more general thread of pop music discussion, I would just like to say that I really, genuinely enjoy most of the output of Pat Benatar.
But Moby and The Orb produce very very different music.
Also, while Moby's work is primarily derivative (*which is not something I really hold against him or anything*), The Orb is a pioneering act, and highly influential not just in ambient spheres but in electronic music in general.
also continuing on the more general thread of pop music discussion, I would just like to say that I really, genuinely enjoy most of the output of Pat Benatar.
lol who doesn't like Pat Benetar?
I'll admit that I'm tired of the people around me only ever talking about HMWYBS when she comes up, as much as I love the song, but that's not even.
Keep in mind that sound is defined heavily by it's context.
Let's take a rather famous example:
Here we can see a whole bunch of songs taken apart and recontextualised into something that has very little to do with any of it's components. It's relationship to the songs it is made up of is tangential at best, it owes far more to the work of big beat fellows Meat Beat Manifesto or any number of Hardcore acts than it does to Ultramagnetic MCs or Rage Against the Machine.
Keep in mind that sound is defined heavily by it's context.
Let's take a rather famous example:
Here we can see a whole bunch of songs taken apart and recontextualised into something that has very little to do with any of it's components. It's relationship to the songs it is made up of is tangential at best, it owes far more to the work of big beat fellows Meat Beat Manifesto or any number of Hardcore acts than it does to Ultramagnetic MCs or Rage Against the Machine.
I didn't say it was heavily derivative, just that it was somewhat.
I don't know, when I think hardcore I think ANGRY BALLS TO THE WALL VIGOROUS FUCKING
LIKE THAT CRAZY FUCKING WHERE THEY PICK YOU UP AND THROW YOU ON THE COUCH AND JUST FUCKING PLOW YOU INTO NEXT WEEK THAT, WHEN DISCUSSED ONLINE, MUST BE TYPED IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING INTENSE.
i dunno. Like, sometimes it's not sexy, sometimes it is. It's like, if you're just having a nice evening with your boyfriend, hardcore isn't really applicable. but if you're at a concert and all of a sudden the music just infects your body and you need an outlet and you're hornier than you've ever been in your life and there's like a secluded field nearby hidden by a shady tree and you want it quick and nasty and primal and wild and uncontained, brutal hardcore sex.
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I don't enjoy most music on that level but on the other hand I don't really feel the need to enjoy most music on that level?
Like the band that happens with the most with me is The Orb. Who I'm pretty sure are quite widely disliked, and aren't really even one of my own favorite groups, although I do like them quite a bit.
reference.
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It is. Although they got back together for the first time in quite a few years sometime last month, and I think they're making a new album. So maybe something nice'll come of it.
But yeah one of the downfalls of creating a critical hit that isn't also a commercial hit is that you rarely reap the benefits from it. The Cold Vein is a rap version of The Velvet Underground & Nico. Only a couple hundred people heard the initial release, but most of them went on to become rappers or producers.
Yeah, this.
Well, kinda, i mean, a lot of music can move me i guess, and it can drastically change how i'm feeling and sometimes how i feel about myself and stuff, but even then it's usually more the right song at the right moment, rather than anything intrinsic to the music. This goes beyond that, i think.
Like i remember Saeglopur (i think it was) saying something similar and at the time i wasn't sure if i could relate or not, but with hindsight i don't think i could.
also continuing on the more general thread of pop music discussion, I would just like to say that I really, genuinely enjoy most of the output of Pat Benatar.
I'd dispute The Orb's work not being derivative solely on the fact that a lot of their music is sample-based.
Of course they did pave the way for almost every popular electronic act that came after, but I feel that's beside the point.
To my mind those seem like different things.
some of HudMo's solo work seems very bland to me. Anyone else get this vibe?
I still like most of it but tracks like this are ehhh.
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also, you know who else likes Pat Benatar, and it's kind of weird but awesome at the same time?
DJ Spinbad.
skip to around 1:50 or so if you're not sure why I say that.
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I didn't say it was heavily derivative, just that it was somewhat.
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"plow" is the second least sexy sex word
the least sexy is "snog".
Angry sex does not seem appealing to me.
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i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
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It was the kind of word we used to laugh about when we were kids though.
To me it brings to mind gossip magazines and boastful teenagers, and these are not attractive.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
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