The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • That's a pretty bold assumption considering how many "I have all the qualifications for a job but I'm still unemployed" stories there are.
  • The only people who get harmed when the industry is harmed are the businessfolk, who I do not care about, because their skills are equally useful in pretty much every industry, and in the unlikely event a record label were to fold solely because of piracy, it would not be hard for them to get a new job. 
    But then there are small independent labels that are run by people who really love the music.


    Like Hydra Head, they just went out of business this year.


    To be fair, Aaron Turner said they wen't out of business because they just never gave a fuck about money and signed whoever they wanted and never cut corners.


    Which is exactly the sort of label that should get support.


    But big labels with shitty execs that give artists the short end of the stick? Yeah fuck 'em.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.

    I grew up in the music industry, and I can attest that the industry as a whole cares only about money -- even the gospel music side of things (especially the gospel music side, they're cutthroats.)  They love you as long as you make them money but when that stops, your ass is out the door. 


    Also, go read up on how many popular acts from the 70's, 80's, and 90s got left in the cold by the industry which pretty much robbed them blind. Quiet Riot specifically got a rude awakening at the end of a tour whenever they were presented with their paycheck, which was laughably small. 

  • When I say "businessfolk", I'm talking either CEOs or accountants. Sometimes lawyers.

    I really doubt it's much of a stretch for these people to be able to find new jobs quickly.

    Even if they didn't, that's operating under the extremely unlikely premise that a record company would fold due mostly to piracy.

    also speaking of merch-buying I am attempting to order a FlyLo shirt.

  • edited 2012-12-28 00:32:39
    But still, I'd say you shouldn't just make the broad sweeping assumption "they're all douchebags, they deserve to be unemployed" for the simple reason that the people who deserve to be unemployed will probably end up keeping their jobs because they're rich and the people on the lower rungs of the corporate ladder will end up unemployed.
  • Naney said:

    The only people who get harmed when the industry is harmed are the businessfolk, who I do not care about, because their skills are equally useful in pretty much every industry, and in the unlikely event a record label were to fold solely because of piracy, it would not be hard for them to get a new job. 
    But then there are small independent labels that are run by people who really love the music.


    Like Hydra Head, they just went out of business this year.


    To be fair, Aaron Turner said they wen't out of business because they just never gave a fuck about money and signed whoever they wanted and never cut corners.


    Which is exactly the sort of label that should get support.


    But big labels with shitty execs that give artists the short end of the stick? Yeah fuck 'em.



    I was talking about large labels.

    Yeah, small labels deserve our support, which is why things like Def Jux folding (and Hydra Head I guess but that name rings no bells to me) are baffling to me, because those are specifically the fans that almost never pirate.

  • edited 2012-12-28 00:33:41

    Ok, here is why I hate big-ass label execs:

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    This is a royalty check sent to Matt Heafy, the frontman of Trivium.


    Dude responsible for this shit should be disemboweled.
  • Naney said:

    Yeah, small labels deserve our support, which is why things like Def Jux folding (and Hydra Head I guess but that name rings no bells to me) are baffling to me, because those are specifically the fans that almost never pirate.
    Hydra Head was a small post/drone/experimental metal label owned by the frontman of Isis.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    He could buy a bottle of Dr. Pepper with that
  • Kexruct said:

    But still, I'd say you shouldn't just make the broad sweeping assumption "they're all douchebags, they deserve to be unemployed" for the simple reason that the people who deserve to be unemployed will probably end up keeping their jobs because they're rich and the people on the lower rungs of the corporate ladder will end up unemployed.



    There really isn't much of a "lower rung" of the corporate ladder of big labels. They tend to hire their business people directly from other companies. There're no minimum wage workers there except the janitors and such.

    All of this is beside the point anyway, so, yeah.

  • He could buy a bottle of Dr. Pepper with that

    One of the biggest metal bands out there: Can afford a soda
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Trivium seemed OK...I should give them another listen
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    For some reason I'm thinking of back in '06 or so when Microsoft was pushing the Zune.

    They only way they could get Universal Music Group on board with the Zune store was to pay them $1 on each Zune player sold, because UMG felt they were entitled for compensation for all the "stolen" music they were certain people were loading on the players.

    I remember thinking "by that logic, haven't you effectively told Zune buyers (if they existed) that they can now pirate your music with a free conscience, knowing they've already 'compensated' you for it?"
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Imi said:

    Dr. Pepper

    WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE
  • Trivium seemed OK...I should give them another listen

    They're solid, one of the better bands as lightweight metalcore goes, and they have strong thrash influences which help.
  • Oh yeah, IIRC Dälek was on Hydra Head for a while.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Strong thrash influences always help.

    CA, I know you're getting at something there but I don't know what
  • Naney said:

    Oh yeah, IIRC Dälek was on Hydra Head for a while.



    DJ Oktopus and them? Cool.

    Anyway, to give an example, I just sent $35 to Brainfeeder (Flying Lotus' label) for a shirt.

    That's how I support my favorite artists, tbh. $35 isn't a lot, but considering how many people do this (Brainfeeder is fairly popular amongst a certain crowd) I doubt FlyLo's really hurting for cash.

  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Imi: You added a . to "Dr Pepper", you evil heinous Satanboy
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  • I don't really play the Touhou games so they're some of the few I don't really feel bad about pirating in case I want to.

    I don't actually have them on this computer right now. Didn't bother to transfer them over.

  • Cream said:

    apple pies in the middle of the ocean on a warm summer day

    but pies don't float
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Raymond Chen's ability to reproduce "screenshots" in HTML never gets old

    He used to do it because his blog software choked on images, but he's posted images before so I think now he just does it because his readers like it.
  • edited 2012-12-28 00:45:25
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    no

    that's literally like Eminem's worst mainstream song

  • edited 2012-12-28 00:46:35
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  • but don't you wanna guess
  • Cream said:

    ^^ I dunno. :o Is it... Santa Claus? :D

    no
  • I don't really play the Touhou games so they're some of the few I don't really feel bad about pirating in case I want to.

    Why would you pirate a game you don't want to play?
  • edited 2012-12-28 00:47:32
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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    I put a . in Dr. Pepper all the time

    haters gonna hate
  • Viacom Inc.
    • owned by Lyle Terry
    • friendly rivals with ABC Inc.
    • bitter emenies with everyone else
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Besides, I drink so much of that stuff I probably account for about half their profits.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Viacom Inc.
    1 Lyle Terry Blvd
    New York, NY
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    So you bought Viacom, eh
  • Kexruct said:

    I don't really play the Touhou games so they're some of the few I don't really feel bad about pirating in case I want to.

    Why would you pirate a game you don't want to play?



    Every once in a blue moon, I get the urge to try them.

    After roughly five minutes of gameplay, the urge passes.

    I like the Touhou series' setting and characters, but the games themselves are absurdly difficult and much too hard for me.

  • Another thing to take into account is that not everybody has enough money to purchase music on a regular basis.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Naney said:

    Another thing to take into account is that not everybody has enough money to purchase music on a regular basis.

    I think Aladdin said it best: "I steal only what I can't afford. And that's everything!"
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    no

    that's literally like Eminem's worst mainstream song

    Worse than Just Lose It? Or I Need a Doctor? Or any number of others?
  • Anonus said:

    So you bought Viacom, eh

    yes

    and Paramount/Nick is now part of ABC, I don't need it

    BET is Radio One's property

    and I stole Turner and HBO from Time Warner while they weren't looking
  • Naney said:

    Another thing to take into account is that not everybody has enough money to purchase music on a regular basis.

    If you don't have money, you don't get music.
  • Naney said:

    Another thing to take into account is that not everybody has enough money to purchase music on a regular basis.

    I think Aladdin said it best: "I steal only what I can't afford. And that's everything!"
    heh.

    And I mean, I do basically spend whatever disposable income I have on music.
  • edited 2012-12-28 00:55:52

    But without music i have no reason to live Mr. Galt
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Paramount...all mine...

    Hey CBS, give us back Star Trek
  • TreTre
    edited 2012-12-28 00:58:29
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    Aw, crap, I guess I have to deal with Basketball Wives now that I own VH1

    Bluh

    I'll sell it to the highest bidder, along with Jersey Shore as a free pack-in deal if they pay shipping
  • Tre said:

    Basketball Wives

    what is this
  • ...I just read Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit as Need for Speed: Hot Fursuit.

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