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  • Nah. They're all going into cookie platters for my mom's clients/friends. That's why we're making so many.

    So far we've made French Neapolitans, some chocolate/peanut butter swirly things, Spritz and now baklava.
  • downton abbey: so much melodrama
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    You know...most people know Warren Buffett as a cool rich guy, but do they know much about Berkshire Hathaway
  • TreTre
    edited 2012-12-19 23:14:56
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    Don't they own Geico or something? Amongst other businesses, I'd presume?
  • Anonus said:

    You know...most people know Warren Buffett as a cool rich guy, but do they know much about Berkshire Hathaway

    no
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    the internet, please stop
  • edited 2012-12-19 23:26:49

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  • edited 2012-12-19 23:26:57
    ^^^what why mom help me please i dont know anymore
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Tre said:

    Don't they own Geico or something? Amongst other businesses, I'd presume?

    Yeah. And Dairy Queen and Orange Julius and Fruit of the Loom...
  • TreTre
    edited 2012-12-19 23:39:23
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    Wow. Eclectic portfolio, that.

    Also I feel like Project X's soundtrack would be is grossly inaccurate if since it didn't have 2 Live Crew's "We Want Some P***y" on it. That song. That song, man.

    (not linking here cuz LOL UNDERAGE)
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    You know, I see that argument used as an example for why creationists are stupid a lot, but I've never once seen anyone explain
    why. 

    The funny thing is that the reason why makes both atheists who make that joke and Creationists look stupid.
  • edited 2012-12-19 23:41:17

    I've never once seen anyone explain why.
    Because it makes literally no sense. The only way you could think that such an argument disproves evolution would be fundamentally misunderstanding how evolution works.
  • edited 2012-12-19 23:42:05
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    I don't see how that makes non-Creationists look stupid.

    Explain plz
    Naney said:

    I've never once seen anyone explain why.
    Because it makes literally no sense. The only way you could think that such an argument disproves evolution would be fundamentally misunderstanding how evolution works.
    Also this.
  • a8 said:

    I don't see how that makes non-Creationists look stupid.

    Explain plz

    also this.
  • Whoa, this left over stir fry is delicious. And it's all because of PINE NUTS
  • The argument goes:

    If humans evolved from monkeys, why do we still have monkeys?

    The problem is, Darwin never said we evolved from monkeys, Darwin said we had a common ancestor. 
  • edited 2012-12-19 23:45:56

    Kexruct said:

    The argument goes:


    If humans evolved from monkeys, why do we still have monkeys?

    The problem is, Darwin never said we evolved from monkeys, Darwin said we had a common ancestor. 
    Yeah. But, even if say we did evolve from monkeys, that would not exclude there still being monkeys around.
  • But the chances of it are slim, aren't they?

    Moreover, that's not the point. The point is that it's better to explain than just go "lolstupidcreationists."
  • Kexruct said:

    But the chances of it are slim, aren't they?

    Not if, say, two groups of the same species become separated and one evolves to adapt to a different environment while one stays static.
  • And where is that "Ha!" taking place? All it is is repeating the argument without embellishment, allowing you to draw your own conclusions as to it's utter idiocy.
  • Remaining static also requires conditions to be static as well, and even then that requires that most offspring aren't mutated.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Naney said:

    Kexruct said:

    But the chances of it are slim, aren't they?

    Not if, say, two groups of the same species become separated and one evolves to adapt to a different environment while one stays static.

    And particularly not in this instance, given that "monkey" denotes any and all haplorhines besides tarsiers and apes (humans belonging to the latter, being hominids), and that there is a huge variety of different monkey species adapted to very different environments and behaviours.
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  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Kexruct said:

    Remaining static also requires conditions to be static as well, and even then that requires that most offspring aren't mutated.

    This is true, but not relevant since a monkey species that adapts to a slightly different environment is in most cases still a species of monkey.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Cream said:

    We are the best kind of ape!

    ftfy
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Although orangutans are pretty boss.
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  • Naney said:

    And where is that "Ha!" taking place? All it is is repeating the argument without embellishment, allowing you to draw your own conclusions as to it's utter idiocy.

    Because I'm beginning to suspect that a lot of atheists know about as much about evolution as the average Christian knows about Scripture.



  • Man I can't stop listening to this, it is like


    so


    awesome


    like seriously, it's like if Sepalcure had a mutant psychedelic trap baby
  • a8 said:

    Kexruct said:

    Remaining static also requires conditions to be static as well, and even then that requires that most offspring aren't mutated.

    This is true, but not relevant since a monkey species that adapts to a slightly different environment is in most cases still a species of monkey.
    After millions of years, though, change is almost inevitable.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Change into more monkeys!

    Keeping in mind that all this is to some degree semantics, look at sharks.
  • not if the environment remains stable and further specialization or generalization is not selected for.


    At some point in a constant environment an equilibrium will be reached.
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  • edited 2012-12-20 00:05:06
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    Naney said:

    not if the environment remains stable and further specialization or generalization is not selected for.


    At some point in a constant environment an equilibrium will be reached.

    There are conflicting models on this, aren't there?

    My understanding was the extent to which equilibrium is reached and maintained is still disputed.
  • edited 2012-12-20 00:06:29
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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Cream said:

    Imi I cannot make myself do a Psychedelic Squid game in 5 days. :( I intend for all of the graphics to be custom-made, and I still have, erm, stuff to learn. We should eat mushrooms and go on a Mario adventure some day. :D You can wear a red cap and I will wear the green one.

    It's all right. Keep working on it and finish it whenever you can.

    Version 2.0 of Black Candles should be finished before Christmas, with lots of new content compared to 1.0.
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  • a8 said:

    My understanding was the extent to which equilibrium is reached and maintained is still disputed.

    Yeah, but from what I've read I'll be willing to stand by what I said.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    It has become kind of a...religious game...in a way.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Its name is Black Candles now?

    Also, you and him should go on a Paper Mario adventure and make it go back to not sucking
  • You know what should be a thing?


    Psychedelic metalcore.
  • So what you're saying is that it's absolutely reasonable for a person to think:

    "Ha! Look at how stupid this argument is! Of course we can still have monkeys. If a species splits and one group remains isolated in a static environment equilibrium will be reached and it won't change!"

    Do you really think that anyone who's made this joke thought it through that far?
  • Kexruct said:

    So what you're saying is that it's absolutely reasonable for a person to think:


    "Ha! Look at how stupid this argument is! Of course we can still have monkeys. If a species splits and one group remains isolated in a static environment equilibrium will be reached and it won't change!"

    Do you really think that anyone who's made this joke thought it through that far?
    Yes, at least that's what my thought process resembled.
  • And even if they did, that idea is hardly self evident enough to warrant laughing at Creationists for not getting it.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Anonus said:

    Its name is Black Candles now?

    Yes. Has been for over a month.

    It's a literary reference
  • It seems pretty self evident to me, I mean this is all stuff we learned by like what 6th or 7th grade?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    It's really not very complicated.  I think most people who have sat through a single secondary school biology class concerning evolution would be able to figure that much.
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