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  • And I think my biggest issue with a lot of social justice is the fact that oftentimes it comes off as intolerant to simply assume things about a person because they're white or rich or whatever. It's fighting fire with fire.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't want to discuss the actual politics of the comics, because frankly, I think y'all already know that I'm extremely liberal and there's not much to say.

    What I want to discuss is how incompetent many cartoonists are act actually conveying those political messages in a way that makes sense.
  • edited 2012-12-17 13:38:04
    Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    ^

    Clay Bennet's cartoons are probably up your street then.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis

    See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't want to discuss the actual politics of the comics, because frankly, I think y'all already know that I'm extremely liberal and there's not much to say.


    What I want to discuss is how incompetent many cartoonists are act actually conveying those political messages in a way that makes sense.
    We've been talking about the mail vs iPhone photo for many posts and I STILL don't understand it.
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
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    This is why Chuck Asay is a bad person.
  • edited 2012-12-17 13:39:53
    What? Why? Why would anyone make that?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    So what we're supposed to take from that is that raiding other countries and burning down their places of worship is a good thing I guess?
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Also that in Norway it's still the summer of '69, going by those outfits.
  • No. That doesn't deserve any comment. Asay just wants to elicit a bad reaction to prove how stupid and easily offended liberals are. Don't take the bait.
  • edited 2012-12-17 13:45:03
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Guns keep the Vikings at bay.

    If we outlawed guns, Norway is going to load up the long boats and our navy will be powerless to stop them because of gun control, you see, and all those Norsemen will raid and pillage America with their swords, spears, and axes.

    Someone should let Norway know that the Vikings never wore horns. 
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    a8 said:

    So what we're supposed to take from that is that raiding other countries and burning down their places of worship is a good thing I guess?

    Yes, that is precisely how you're supposed to read it.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    I like how a8 somehow picked the same country as me. Norway must have something of a viking image problem.
  • edited 2012-12-17 13:44:57
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Oh good point Kex.  He might be reading this.

    Don't know what I was thinking.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Ugh, Politics.

    You people still care about that soap?

    The dental issues of Louis XIII, the mating cycles of Earwigs, the sexually transmitted diseases of dogs, the buildup of moss on mount Kilimanjaro, the existence of Flesh-eating-worms, medieval medical quackery, and the relative attractiveness of the mistresses of Charles II; all of those are better subjects than politics.

    You can talk about politics in loads of places on the internet.  This is the only place where I can have Imipolex rank the wives of Henry VIII in terms of attractiveness.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Justice42 said:

    I like how a8 somehow picked the same country as me. Norway must have something of a viking image problem.

    ...look at it again.
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    FYI, that comic was made shortly after Brevik.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    "OH! I hope my political cartoon gets posted to a random web forum!  I hope,  I hope,  I hope! Ooops, time for my hourly Google vanity search!"
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Aliroz_ said:

    Ugh, Politics.

    You people still care about that soap?

    The dental issues of Louis XIII, the mating cycles of Earwigs, the sexually transmitted diseases of dogs, the buildup of moss on mount Kilimanjaro, the existence of Flesh-eating-worms, medieval medical quackery, and the relative attractiveness of the mistresses of Charles II; all of those are better subjects than politics.

    You can talk about politics in loads of places on the internet.  This is the only place where I can have Imipolex rank the wives of Henry VIII in terms of attractiveness.

    The problem, although this has nothing to do with silly political cartoons, is that even if you don't care about politics you can still be affected by it.

    Not so much by the relative attractiveness of Charles II's mistresses.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    a8 said:

    Justice42 said:

    I like how a8 somehow picked the same country as me. Norway must have something of a viking image problem.

    ...look at it again.
    Huh, I somehow missed the giant "Norway" on top of the comic. Silly me.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    One thing I've noticed about Chuck Asay is that he tends to preach to the choir, even more so than other cartoonists:

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    This comic only makes any kind of point at all if you already agree with his assumption that happy gay couples and insurance coverage for birth control aren't "moral".
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    DEVIL'S LETTUCE! 
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    Moar asay

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  • a8 said:

    Oh good point Kex.  He might be reading this.

    Don't know what I was thinking.

    ...

    :(
  • edited 2012-12-17 13:50:49
    imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    ^^ I'm not sure I get that one.

    ^ Relax, just playing.
  • not political cartoons
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    George Bush and the Elephant somehow created jobs (In some hypothetical universe where the job market actually improved during his presidency, I guess?), but the media only cares about reporting about "OH SHIT, WE'RE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!" events. So no one is giving George Bush and the Elephant any credit in hypothetical universe land...
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    a8 said:

    I'm not sure I get that one.

    I had to read it like three times, but I think what he's trying to say is "The media only cares about the Abu Ghraib abuse because it distracts from the fact that Republicans made jobs!"

    Not that that really makes much sense...?
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Look, the mating patterns of Earwigs are important.  Most Earwigs in North America are non-native, being introduced in the early twentieth century.  Omnivorous invasive species, yo.

    And people keep introducing more invasive species to get rid of them.  Just look at Triarthria setipennis, which is found on continents it has absolutely no business being.

    Look, this is relevant to crops and food production.  The ways that people disrupt Earwig mating patterns have a huge effect on food production.  It's more significant and has more of an impact on my life than politics.
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    Look, this is relevant to crops and food production.  The ways that
    people disrupt Earwig mating patterns have a huge effect on food
    production.  It's more significant and has more of an impact on my life
    than politics.
    You live in a country, politics impacts on everything in your life
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    Aliroz_ said:

    You can talk about politics in loads of places on the internet.  This is the only place where I can have Imipolex rank the wives of Henry VIII in terms of attractiveness.

    useless without pics
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Babar the Elephant is Republican.  Who'd have guessed?

    @ Aliroz: I agree that invasive species are potentially very harmful.  You'll notice that of all the things you listed, I didn't single out ecology as being less important than politics.

    Nevertheless, political issues such as war, discrimination and economic failure do directly and adversely impact the lives of billions of people, and it's not at all unreasonable to care about them.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I gotta run but I'll just leave this here before I go:

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    It's your pretty typical "holiday + political meme of the moment" cartoon, but McKee completely missed the point of the Thanksgiving story. They really didn't build that, that's why they're giving thanks!
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    It satirises itself.  Deconstruction, ladies and gentleheapers! :D

    Although the whole "you didn't build that" meme was kind of a missed point to begin with, or rather a point ignored for the sake of a cheap laugh.
  • edited 2012-12-17 14:10:16
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    a8 said:

    I'm not sure I get that one.


    I had to read it like three times, but I think what he's
    trying to say is "The media only cares about the Abu Ghraib abuse because it distracts from the fact that Republicans made jobs!"

    Not that that really makes much sense...?
    THE MEDIA HATES REPUBLICANS! IF THEY'D ONLY STOP HATING REPUBLICANS THEY'D SEE HOW AWESOME GEORGE W. BUSH IS AT EVERYTHING!
  • guyyyyyyyyyyyyyys

    stoooooooooooooop
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    My father grew up on a cattle ranch that is still owned and run by his family.  Just outside my front yard, our neighbors have a rather large field that rotates between alfalfa, barley, and corn. The vegetables that my family eats, we grow in our back yard.  The peaches, apples, raspberries, strawberries, and cherries come from the front yard.  My home valley was agrarian just a generation ago.

    You've never had to protect the year's carrots from the Carrot Fly(not an earwig, I know); you never had to protect the Peaches from the goshadarn European Earwig, which was also eating the apples, strawberries, and raspberries; you've never lived this life, so you don't know.

    Earwigs are completely important, and you can't tell me that they ain't.
  • ignore me being a bitch that happens when people i talk to are not around
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Aliroz, I specifically just said that I think they are important.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    I don't think anyone said that Earwigs aren't important.
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Oh.

    Well, I just screwed up there.

    Sorry.
  • movies are pretty nice

    i wish i was more interesting
  • actually, i'd be settled with having someone's attention. but i kinda don't exist so can't ask for much
  • YOUR INFECTIOUS ALL-CAPS SURE IS INTERESTING
  • :/ I hate some of the things my mom tries to do just to get me to do what she wants.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    @ Aliroz: No worries.

    *pays attention to Phantom Thief XI*
  • edited 2012-12-17 14:17:55
    all caps is because i pretty much scream all the time. like, i'm excited about most things i talk about

    which is kinda dumb, why would you be excited by yourself

    I didn't mean it that literelally.

    literal
    literally
    is this how you write it my head is killing me
  • robert G. heyman
  • also a8 are you someone from tvt

    or were you
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    I was called Bobby G on there.

    I didn't post in the Trash Heap that often tho.
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