You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Is it bad that the made-up pronounces like "ze" and "zir" irritate me?
English already has a perfectly fine gender-neutral pronoun. It's called singular "they". USE IT.
Singular 'they' traditionally denotes an unknown person. Standard English has no gender neutral pronoun to describe a known individual.
And unfortunately, singular 'they' has fallen victim to the same bullshit that befell the split infinitive and the double negative, which is to say there are people who will assume you are uneducated for using it.
^ Sewing shops should have them.
If it's not urgent you could also ask at dry cleaners, as some of them offer repair services.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Singular 'they' traditionally denotes an unknown person. Standard English has no gender neutral pronoun to describe a known individual.
And unfortunately, singular 'they' has fallen victim to the same bullshit that befell the split infinitive and the double negative, which is to say there are people who will assume you are uneducated for using it.
I know this all too well. But it seems the more sensible solution to me than to try to invent words that would basically serve the same purpose.
My position is that requesting a non-standard pronoun is pretty harmless and I'm willing to respect the feelings of anyone who prefers to be referred to as such. So long as they don't expect me to adopt the words for general use, I don't have any quarrel with them.
The preponderance of proposed pronouns with 'x's and 'z's in them strikes me as a bit silly, but I suspect that's a self-perpetuating trend.
Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
Seems to me the only people who would want to be called by a gender-neutral equivalent of "he" or "she" are more concerned about standing out than an actual rejection of gender, no matter how they try to justify it
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
^^^ Oh, if someone requests a particular pronoun, then by all means I'll use it. It would be hypocritical of me to do otherwise.
But I'm certainly not going to join the seemingly growing number of bloggers who use them by default when referring to someone whose pronoun preference hasn't been explicitly stated.
^^^ Oh, if someone requests a particular pronoun, then by all means I'll use it. It would be hypocritical of me to do otherwise.
But I'm certainly not going to join the seemingly growing number of bloggers who use them by default when referring to someone whose pronoun preference hasn't been explicitly stated.
I don't see how it'd be hypocritical of you at all. It seems to me that these folks are motivated solely by whimsy which has nothing in common with GID.
I try not to make assumptions when all I have to go on is a gender neutral Internet username, but I do default to male/female pronouns if I'm going by a name or appearance that's gendered. If a person appears to be making an effort to defy gender roles I'm more cautious.
I don't think there's anything whimsical or unreasonable about wanting to avoid gendered pronouns if gender is a painful subject, but if so I'd prefer to be given a warning, rather than ranted at for getting it wrong.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
If I'm judging based on a name or appearance that appears to be gendered, I tend to fall back on "standard" he/she pronouns.
If the gender is unspecified, I'll default to singular they. In fact, I try very hard not to default to "he" in such cases--for example, if discussing an unknown thief I'll say "they got away with all the rupees" instead of "he got away with all the rupees".
If, as Fouria noted, I get the impression that someone is trying to defy gender roles, I'll kinda just tiptoe around pronouns altogether as much as I can, because I'm too shy to outright ask what someone prefers.
Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
As an aside, "zhe" is one of the more difficult sounds in the Chinese language for the english speaker to learn when it comes to speaking and hearing because it sounds so similar to jia/xia/chia/zia, and it's just an damn odd combination of two consonants and a vowel. I think it's a safe bet that this will never, ever catch on in the English language for anything, much less as a gender-neutral replacement.
Oh. >_> Chinese romanization kind of confuses me, sometimes. Romajii is much easier.
You're thinking of Japanese. There is no "romanization" or Romaji in Chinese, the conversion is known as pinyin and it's highly dependent on tone and inflection. A downward tone "zhe" is different from a mid-tone "zhe" and as well different to a high-toned "zhe."
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
It's not. Chinese is dead simple to learn, especially compared to Japanese. For instance, they use damn near the same structure we do when it comes to a sentence.
I find the "Fake Nerd Girl" thing kinda amusing because it's built around this idea that girls want nerdy guys.
I mean, are any girls really gonna be attracted to the kind of asshole who goes on about "YOU MUST BE A REAL NERD" in the first place?
I have known actual nerdy females in the past. I even dated one once. She got the "stop being such a FAKE NERD WHORE" thing about thirty times a day. This is a woman who once suggested I dress up as Kyon so she could dress up as Haruhi for a date. In public. If that is "faking" nerd-ery, I'm not even sure that nerds exist.
I don't regard being a nerd as a particularly good thing. It's a pejorative, but not everything it denotes is something to be ashamed of.
Everyone has a different definition of the word these days anyway. Honestly the only thing I'm really into enough to be "nerdy for" is probably rap music. And maybe Touhou. Maybe.
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And unfortunately, singular 'they' has fallen victim to the same bullshit that befell the split infinitive and the double negative, which is to say there are people who will assume you are uneducated for using it.
^ Sewing shops should have them.
If it's not urgent you could also ask at dry cleaners, as some of them offer repair services.
Like a8 sez, there's not much of an alternative.
So people will just continue to use 'they'.
The preponderance of proposed pronouns with 'x's and 'z's in them strikes me as a bit silly, but I suspect that's a self-perpetuating trend.
I don't think there's anything whimsical or unreasonable about wanting to avoid gendered pronouns if gender is a painful subject, but if so I'd prefer to be given a warning, rather than ranted at for getting it wrong.
I thought I'd never see you again, you bastard
Dr. Dre is one of the most legendary hip-hop producers of all time, so I certainly hope so.
I like ze as a random word to tack onto the end of sentences, ze.
But not as a madeup pronoun, ze.
Yo, Toolzy.
I agree.
It's identifying with them in my head that I'm not always sure about, if that makes any sense.
(And further to that, acting accordingly, I guess)
I see.
Also, Dido is making a comeback apparently.
I did not forsee this.
good night everyone