The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • edited 2012-12-07 20:50:57

    I hope you're okay, JZ.

    Here's hoping; this storm came out of nowhere.
  • edited 2012-12-07 20:50:53

    ^ ^ /)^3^(\
  • Yeaaaaaaaaaah



    I'm pretty stupid sometimes.
    Don't worry, it's not exactly the first thing to come to mind when you see my name.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

    I hope you're okay, JZ.

    Me too...
  • kingdom hearts creeps me out. but i blame that on the weird weeaboo chick in my 6th form who decided that i looked like some kingdom hearts character, and kept trying to persuade me to dress as said character and then do her

  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
    Wow, that's pretty creepy, Sunny.

    Rabid fangirls/fanboys are the worst, no matter what media they orgasm over
  • sunn wolf said:

    kingdom hearts creeps me out. but i blame that on the weird weeaboo chick in my 6th form who decided that i looked like some kingdom hearts character, and kept trying to persuade me to dress as said character and then do her

    well that's creepy
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch

    I hope you're okay, JZ.


  • This is good moosix.
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  • Cream said:



    all fandoms can be... a little weird.


  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
    Yeah.

    But the games are pretty solid. I like the plot, too, even thought it's really convoluted and dumb.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Kexruct said:

    Cream said:



    all fandoms can be... a little weird.



  • Convoluted, yes, but how is the plot dumb?
  • edited 2012-12-07 21:03:31
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  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    Kingdom Hearts lasted a grand total of 30 minutes in my PS2 before I yanked that disc out, put it back in the case, and gave it away to another Marine
  • but whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    mostly because of that fucking music video it makes you sit through at the beginning

    what the fuck does that have to do with Disney and Final Fantasy holy shit

    I'm all sitting here wanting to see Goofy knock Garland down (geddit? GEDDIT?) and here's this horrible music with some spikey haired kid and that was enough for me
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  • >talk for 20 minutes

    >actually say something


    ishygddt
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    be OK, JZ
    sunn wolf said:

    kingdom hearts creeps me out. but i blame that on the weird weeaboo chick in my 6th form who decided that i looked like some kingdom hearts character, and kept trying to persuade me to dress as said character and then do her

    is it bad that I'm more amused than creeped out by this
  • Cream said:

    Convoluted, yes, but how is the plot dumb?
    It doesn't make even an ounce of coherent sense and everything is explained by the power of friendship and hearts and there are too many dumb retcons and, when I was a teenage-person, it melted my little heart to see pretty boys spew 20 minutes of sentimental nonsense every time I fight a boss, but now it just kind of makes me roll my eyes, because I got older, and read books where people talk for 20 minutes and actually manage to say something. :D
    There's appeal in things that are just made to tug at your heartstrings, either to make you sad or to make you happy. I mean, The Grave of the Fireflies existed almost entirely for the former reason and it's considered a masterpiece. That said, Kingdom Hearts really is more about the characters and how they interact than actually having a strong plot.
  • edited 2012-12-07 21:15:20
    doublepost
  • edited 2012-12-07 21:15:45
    quadruplepost
  • edited 2012-12-07 21:15:06
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  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Final Fantasy really doesn't go with Disney, methinks.
  • wait, something's going wrong here.
  • edited 2012-12-07 21:16:38
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  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
    Maybe dumb isn't the right word, perhaps silly fits it better.

    I mean, it's just it has a tendency to twist in new directions that don't really make sense, and I'm just kinda like "yeah, okay" and I just roll with it because I wanna kill more things and play around in my favorite Disney worlds.

    But at the same time it's kind of endearing because there aren't really many storylines as bizarre as this one.

    And yeah, the characters are fun too.
  • Cream said:

    The characters are either cameos or mary sues. KH is about atmosphere and good fights.




    I think most of the Mary Sues sort of deconstruct the idea of a Mary Sue, because they all have something horrible happen to them. The only exception to this rule is Sora, possibly, but he's a fairly tolerable character regardless.
  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
    They never felt overly mary sue to me

    And yeah, I like Xion and Namine because they deconstruct Mary Sue pretty well
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  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Well, if it means that I get to wander around Winnie The Pooh levels and roam around Agrabah from Aladdin, I'm happy.
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  • edited 2012-12-07 21:27:16
    Cream said:

    Part of what makes a Mary Sue a Mary Sue is that the only bad things that happen to them can be blamed on other people and were not caused by them at all.

    But wouldn't that be just about any good character? I mean, you can hardly blame, say Harry Potter for having to fight Voldemort, or Link for fighting Ganondorf, or John from fighting Lord English, or Spike for fighting Vicious, or Simon for fighting the Anti Spiral, and I could go on all day but I won't.
  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
    I think the point is that Mary Sues often have the problem of Never My Fault; even when a Mary Sue does something wrong, it will NEVER be blamed on them.
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  • But what have these characters done that is wrong?
  • Cream said:

    Characters that do good things can make mistakes and still be good people. Harry Potter caused a good deal of trouble for himself and for others, and had flaws, but ultimately he was a good person. To me, a character that never makes mistakes and only suffers from other people is a little irritating. They are not a very believable human.

    Who says characters have to be believable? I think there's a time and a place for fantastical characters.
  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Well, you have to admit, Harry did not have the best self-control in Order of the Phoenix.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    I've never thought Mary Sue was a very useful term.
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  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    image
  • Cream said:

    A character that isn't believable is not much of a character. They've become an abstraction or an avatar, almost an object.

    That depends on how well-written said character is. I'd say the writing in Kingdom Hearts, though occasionally saccharine, is really good.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    enoby darkness dementia raven way
  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    the adventures of dark yagami
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    Huge argument between my friends on facebook

    turns out a bunch of my friends a bunch of fucking sickos who prefer cherry starburst over strawberry or lemon


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