The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    I watched it.

    I liked it.
  • It made me really excited for Doris.

    I honestly thought his debut (Earl) was overhyped. He was easily the most horrorcore of the group for a long time and large chunks of Earl are just really immature grossout rap, even if the quality of the rapping itself is high. I think Doris is going to do the subject matter right if "Chum" is any indication.

  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    I never actually heard Earl.

    Of course they posted it to Megaupload which since got taken down, if they didn't take it down already anyway.  Hooray for Youtube.
  • A lot of Earl is about rape and/or murder.

    Common problem with the early work of the group actually. Even Goblin had a lot of stuff about it but Goblin's a story about a serial killer, so it's more undrstandable.

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    I want to visit this place.
  • I remember seeing that on the travel channel years ago.

    Me too.

  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
  • He will be missed.
  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    This week has not been a very good week. The surprise group project ended up distracting me from reading the material for a quiz. I feel really bad about it even though I've already been in a class where I failed one quiz and still got an A.
  • edited 2012-12-05 14:48:38
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Thanks, Lazuli. I really appreciate it.

    If it were just this, I'd be fine. But honestly, my mental health has been in a state of blargh for a while. It doesn't help that I'm tired of my art history class.
  • No problem man.

    Also yeah Art History does not sound like an enthralling subject.

  • Today I got into an argument with a person who legitimately believes:
    1. North Korea is a powerful, successful country.
    2. The United States is at least as corrupt as any African nation because "the government controls us."
  • Yeah see no argument with someone who believes those things is going to be worth having.
  • Huh. So it turns out that Canada's as polite and kind as everybody says they are. Statistics has proved it.

    This week has not been a very good week. The surprise group project ended up distracting me from reading the material for a quiz. I feel really bad about it even though I've already been in a class where I failed one quiz and still got an A.

    -pat on the back-

    It's okay, man. Life'll go on.

    Can't give any advice on the blargh state right now. Kind of in a blargh state myself. But I hope you can deal with it long enough to get through art history.
  • Yeah see no argument with someone who believes those things is going to be worth having.

    The problem is that needless and baseless cynicism is infectious among teenagers.

    I became idealistic out of spite.
  • edited 2012-12-05 15:01:05
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Thanks, Yarrun.

    No problem man.

    Also yeah Art History does not sound like an enthralling subject.

    I'm not very interested in the subject myself, but it's mostly the professor that's bothering me. I don't like it when he starts to sound like a snarky ranty blogger during his lectures, and he doesn't seem to be very well prepared for this class.
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    Kexruct said:

    Today I got into an argument with a person who legitimately believes:

    1. North Korea is a powerful, successful country.
    2. The United States is at least as corrupt as any African nation because "the government controls us."
    Dude, I just linked something above your post that listed the USA as the 18th least corrupt country in the world
  • Kexruct said:

    Today I got into an argument with a person who legitimately believes:

    1. North Korea is a powerful, successful country.
    2. The United States is at least as corrupt as any African nation because "the government controls us."
    Dude, I just linked something above your post that listed the USA as the 18th least corrupt country in the world
    That's what made me think of it. I was going to print that off and show it to him, but chances are he'll say something like "you can't trust statistics."
  • M a n n n n n n 

    I don't wanna take a nap but I'm sleepy as fuck.

  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Grammar & Sexuality
  • snuggling and also loads of sex and brunch
  • ...And even when your hope is gone
    move along, move along, just to make it through
    (2015 self)
    Yarrun, do you have any music to recommend?  I need music.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    Trying to actually finish my writing in time for tomorrow's seminar this week. Not going so well.

    A lot of Earl is about rape and/or murder.

    Common problem with the early work of the group actually. Even Goblin had a lot of stuff about it but Goblin's a story about a serial killer, so it's more undrstandable.


    So I noticed.

    Figured lines about sawing arms off and the like were not to be taken as super srs though.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I feel like I'm letting the Christmas season rapidly pass me by...it's December 5 already...

    It's weird; a week or two ago I was into this and I was trying to plan out little blog posts to write this month, but I seem to have lost interest at exactly the wrong time. >_<
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  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    teehee 69
  • Fouria G said:

    Figured lines about sawing arms off and the like were not to be taken as super srs though.



    No, they're not, but some are offended by such things. idk.


    Aliroz_ said:

    Yarrun, do you have any music to recommend?  I need music.

    I'm not Yarrun but you could give Bass Communion a listen if you can find Ghosts on Magnetic Tape, it's a hauntingly pretty album.
  • Fouria G said:

    Figured lines about sawing arms off and the like were not to be taken as super srs though.



    No, they're not, but some are offended by such things. idk.

    HAW HAW
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    music recommendation: scroll to top of page
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
  • wut.

    also they changed my schedule again next week. ugh.

    whatever.

  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    OOGIE GAMES

    That sucks, Lazuli. I can't say I'd like a job where my schedule is changed every other week, either.
  • why the fuck would you put me on on a Friday

    Chuck isn't even there on Fridays

    fucking christ why is the scheduleman so retarded.

  • edited 2012-12-05 16:03:26
    Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.


    I think not so much deliberate character assassination as trigger-happiness, honestly.

    Not to disagree with you or trying to correct your assessment of her (and for the record, I know that you and others here are aware of her antics), but this is the same person who cried assault and wickedly disparaged a man because he asked her to join him for coffee while the two on an elevator, which achieved international attention for her and the poor bastard involved. Then, whenever Richard Dawkins of all people stepped in with a dose of reality, she and her online cronies turned their attack on him and she even went so far to declare his work and words to be null and void because science, logic and rationality all end where her feelings begin. 



    News media and political propaganda don't usually distinguish between studies conducted by disinterested academics and ones conducted by "think tanks" with a vested interest in confirming a particular hypothesis.  There is also a certain class of pseudointellectual, and I'm sure you know the type - thinks Fight Club was super-profound, believes "9 out of 10 people prefer gang rape" to be a compelling argument against democracy - who is very quick to use studies, like that one which found men to be more willing to have anonymous sex than women, to draw broad conclusions about essential, inherent differences between men and women, and furthermore treats these as sufficient grounds to write off all of feminism as irrational whining.
    Yes, and this haphazard sort of deflection is damaging and has no place in such a debate. Neither does feminism, but for completely different reasons, and I'll explain that here in a sec.


    As the criticism you linked notes, the study itself was much more conservative in terms of conclusions drawn, mindful of the fact that it's very difficult to distinguish between genetic influences on behaviour and environmental ones.  This is precisely what you'd expect and nothing less; actual science, academic, rigorous, disinterested and subject to peer review, tends to be very cautious about drawing conclusions from its findings.  The popular media is not, and neither are people with a political axe to grind.

    Social constructivists tend to have backgrounds in the humanities or the softer end of the social sciences, fields where language is often the primary focus.  Language is slippery, and as a consequence social constructivists are perhaps sometimes hypersensitive to the danger of misinterpretation, a danger which scientific studies are (usually) very good at recognizing and taking steps to avoid.  Nevertheless, scientific findings are not immune to abuse.  The criticism of Watson that you linked is pretty damning and it's clear that she didn't do sufficient research before making her talk, but feminists do have every reason, given the long history of essentializing claims being made for politically-motivated reasons, to be suspicious of such claims.
    Yes, except you have to keep in mind that the entire scope of this situation fits entirely within the realm of hard science, where feminism (or MRA or Confucianism for that matter) has no place. Feminism is a philosophy, which does not diminish its value, but inserting it into an area where it simply does not belong diminishes both -- kind of like how mixing religion and government will damage and then eventually destroy each other over time.

    Which brings us to the next point: Looking at it from the perspective of hard science, religion and philosophy are the same thing. Neither of them are relevant to truth or scientific fact. That's not to say that philosophy or even religion can't bring to light these facts or assist in finding the truth. Where the rubber hits the road is when either makes a statement involving a truth or falsehood, and then we have something science can test. That's the metric we have in place. Until the scientific method can do its job and prove this truth or falsehood, well, then it either needs to wait until we can get around to it or it's simply not of relevance.

    Of course, there's no reason to be a complete hardass about this even in the skeptic/scientific community. Skeptics can and do follow philosophies and some even pander to religion. As long as that sort of thing isn't being dragged in as fact or an attempt to append it to rationalism as a whole, no foul. However, this is exactly what Rebecca Watson and her ilk are attempting to do.

    You may have heard of this new movement called Atheism+ (plus.) It's the snottiest aspects of atheism coupled with the worst that the social justice movement has to offer. Check your race/height/weight/size/age/etc/etc/kitchen-sink privilege at the door before patting each other on the back for not believing in a magical sky wizard, and guess who's one of the folks heading up this movement? Rebecca Watson. So, an agenda being pushed here?

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    Yep.

    Finally, if you look at the most influential and important people in this movement -- Randi, Penn, Teller, Dawkins -- you may not like them personally or think they're the bee's knees, but the fact of the matter is these gentlemen have distinguished themselves and their works and words considered valuable because all they're really doing is seeking the truth, and doing so by the book. Rebecca Watson is not, and the only problem I have with her being called out on this is it didn't happen sooner. 


  • My dreams exceed my real life

    Fouria G said:



    I think not so much deliberate character assassination as trigger-happiness, honestly.

    Not to disagree with you or trying to correct your assessment of her (and for the record, I know that you and others here are aware of her antics), but this is the same person who cried assault and wickedly disparaged a man because he asked her to join him for coffee while the two on an elevator, which achieved international attention for her and the poor bastard involved. Then, whenever Richard Dawkins of all people stepped in with a dose of reality, she and her online cronies turned their attack on him and she even went so far to declare his work and words to be null and void because science, logic and rationality all end where her feelings begin. 

    She posted about something that made her feel uncomfortable on her blog. Man, wow, what a bitch.
  • Richard Dawkins of all people stepped in with a dose of reality

    > Richard Dawkins

    > dose of reality
  • Man, wow, what a bitch.

    inorite?
  • Richard Dawkins is actually fairly intelligent.

    And as a Christian I resent that somewhat.
  • dawkins should stick to biology where he has some clue what he's talking about


    seriously
  • you guys are posting too loud

    i'm trying to sleep

  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    Odradek said:

    Fouria G said:



    I think not so much deliberate character assassination as trigger-happiness, honestly.

    Not to disagree with you or trying to correct your assessment of her (and for the record, I know that you and others here are aware of her antics), but this is the same person who cried assault and wickedly disparaged a man because he asked her to join him for coffee while the two on an elevator, which achieved international attention for her and the poor bastard involved. Then, whenever Richard Dawkins of all people stepped in with a dose of reality, she and her online cronies turned their attack on him and she even went so far to declare his work and words to be null and void because science, logic and rationality all end where her feelings begin. 

    She posted about something that made her feel uncomfortable on her blog. Man, wow, what a bitch.
    Which is all it was, it totally didn't blow up into anything without her and her followers fanning the flames, and I'm the only person who heard about it. 


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