The Trash Heap of the Heapers' Hangout

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  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    About the only thing I remember from that era was how angry Linux/Amiga advocates would get over Dvorak. He had to have been trolling them. 
  • It just seems to me (and a lot of others) that there's like some sort of chic that's attached itself to being a giant nerd about something except there's not and the people who try to push this are about as transparent as a broken window.  But that won't stop them from rattling of their "nerd cred" like it's a parade of boy scout patches whenever they get the chance

    welcome to the commoditization of all you value


    there's a song that makes me think of, albiet with a different now popular bland-ified subculture in mind



  • About the only thing I remember from that era was how angry Linux/Amiga advocates would get over Dvorak. He had to have been trolling them. 



    I was actually referring to people today who look down on others for not having been a part of those same arguments.

    But I suppose it happened even back then.

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    From reading some of the old Dvorak articles...yeah, I'm pretty sure some of them were either troll posts or Hail Mary passes written at deadline. I don't know how someone could be a fan of non-PC hardware and get the Amiga and the Atari ST mixed up that easily.
  • edited 2012-08-18 05:43:08

    damn that song is catchy
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    And as for the whole "you're less of a nerd for not walking the walk" thing...I remember getting rather annoyed with ESR back in the day, since it seems like good chunks of the Jargon File under his aegis were written such that being a cool guy in the Linux world meant that you had to emulate ESR himself, right down to his politics and interests. I wasn't happy with that at the time, since I think it made Linux fans look even nuttier than they needed to be (this was not helped by the fact that 9/11 happened around this time and ESR went kind of insane after that), and it also diminished the roles of the BSD people and the other groups that, while they weren't working under the GPL or directly with the Linux developers, were still contributing to the cause in some fashion.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.




    Frankly I am not sure which is more annoying, these people, or the ones who go on and on about how they're not "real nerds" because they sometimes have girlfriends and didn't get wedgies in high school and beaten up for having a copy of Nintendo Power.

    One of those is a near-direct quote. Guess which.

    It's not irritation that they're trying to get into some secret little club, it's just wondering why in the hell they go through the effort to act like something they're clearly not. And a lot of the times when they do this, it's just kind of painful to watch. A while back I read some column by one claiming to be (of all things) a "meme" type geek. She "geeked out" over memes, and that's fine (...) but she was saying so because she was upset that nobody was aware of her mighty geek-hood as if she's expecting some sort of validation where there is none.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    lee4hmz said:

    From reading some of the old Dvorak articles...yeah, I'm pretty sure some of them were either troll posts or Hail Mary passes written at deadline. I don't know how someone could be a fan of non-PC hardware and get the Amiga and the Atari ST mixed up that easily.

    Well they both ran off the 68k
  • edited 2012-08-18 05:52:23
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    Forsythe: The hell? That's not being a geek, that's blatant bandwagon-riding. If you're doing something just to get people to notice you and not because you actually enjoy it, it shows, and it can actually be off-putting to people.

    And true, they were both 68k-based and looked kind of similar, which makes me wonder if it really was a brain fart on his part because he was dashing off an article quickly. Amiga fans used to be vicious back in the day; thankfully, I'd never even heard of them until I got steady Internet access in 1995 and most of their attempts at shouting down the competition had ended.
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    lee: that's what I'm talking about. This just isn't limited to nerd culture, either; it just seems that's where they're coming from the most at the moment. 
  • It's not irritation that they're trying to get into some secret little club, it's just wondering why in the hell they go through the effort to act like something they're clearly not. And a lot of the times when they do this, it's just kind of painful to watch. A while back I read some column by one claiming to be (of all things) a "meme" type geek. She "geeked out" over memes, and that's fine (...) but she was saying so because she was upset that nobody was aware of her mighty geek-hood as if she's expecting some sort of validation where there is none.



    Well then that blogger is an idiot.

    I said I was annoyed by both sides here and I meant it. I find fighting over what is and is not <insert your subculture of choice here> to be incredibly irritating. The other big example I often see is with hip-hop fans, who tend to be over-obsessed with what is "real" and what is not.

  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    Super Lazuli what I'm getting at here isn't about how "real" or whatever someone is regarding a particular interest, it's when they're being blatantly fake about it. I'm sure talking to folks here and elsewhere you can tell whenever you're having a conversation with someone who has a genuine interest in something. The first telltale sign is how they're not tripping all over themselves to convince you that they're the real deal like the blogger mentioned above and others. That's what I'm talking about, and certainly not trying to judge anyone else. 
  • I didn't really think you were.

    I am aware that there are people out there who will try to convince everyone that they are SO into <whatever>. But I don't think that there are as many of these people as everyone thinks there are. Some folks, myself included sometimes, just tend to ramble on about what they like. Which can come off as the aforementioned trying to convince people you're SO into whatever.

    And of course, we are talking about a blogger here. Who knows what those people are thinking.

    /totally not a blogger at all no-siree why would you think that

  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    Every semester the university sends out an email where the student is informed that they can cancel part of or their entire schedule.  The thing is the email is always titled SCHEDULE CANCELLATION and that always freaks me out thinking they canceled my schedule, which would be a real pisser if they did considering how small foreign language classes are and how fast they fill up (taking Chinese this semester, I had register this minutes after it opened last April to secure a seat)
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    Okay, time for me to go pass out. Later!
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    ^^ I wonder if there's someone at the registrar's office laughing his ass off at this
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  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind
    technically awakeness.
  • edited 2012-08-18 12:08:20
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    This is the last weekend before I go back to school. It feels weird, partly because it seems really abrupt after a relatively easygoing summer break.

    Speaking of abrupt, this is probably something I should've mentioned earlier.
  • Touch the cow. Do it now.
    You're going back to school?!?!?!?!?!!!!111?11?1?1?1//??//1!eleventy??!!
  • Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Yes.

    and then you will be all alone on the internet again
  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind
    i don't have to go back to school for the next 3 weeks or so

    so there
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    Why do people go to school on a Saturday?
  • edited 2012-08-18 12:52:46
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    I don't. The only places I can think of where people normally go to school on Saturday are Japan and certain American private schools.

    I go back to school on Monday, and I have a typical Monday through Friday school week.
  • I started school on August the first.

  • The mandude is visiting today. Yay!
  • Mandyoooooods

    Also I'm posting this from my Mac, which just got back from the Apple Store (after a good 2 months) and is as spring as a chicken. Yay :]
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  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind
    king of town
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    Good afternoon, everyone!

    I speed-tested my Aranym install with nbench, and it comes out around the speed of a Pentium 75 or so. That's faster than any real 68040 machine that I know of; I know the LC 475 I had was dog-slow in Linux.
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    Hi Lee.

    ...not related to that, but for some reason I'm getting the feeling that Hanna-Barbera's Swirling Star was not really their logo, but the corporate logo of Taft by the time they started using it. It doesn't seem befitting of them, somehow.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    It never really said "Cartoons!" to me, somehow.

    I find its use at the end of PPG puzzling.
  • Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast
    Oh wow, apparently Bill Gates introduced the tablet pc in 2002 but it was used in Star Trek in the late 80's.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Around the time the Swirling Star was adopted H-B was well into its dark age of shitting out really dull shows, so an un-cartoony logo that doesn't really say anything sort of fits, I guess.

    So do I. I'd rather they'd have done what the other Cartoon Cartoons were doing and went with a custom H-B oval logo.
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    Yeah, the Swirling Star was actually supposed to be Taft's logo, and they used it in the Taft International Pictures logo:

  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
  • i wish to come up with a song lyric for this signature, but no song lyrics are coming to mind
    something something dance floor
  • TreTre
    edited 2012-08-18 18:56:58
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    ^x2 Oh hey, you found examples, nice!

    If I find any I'll send them in.

    Speaking of Helvetica, apparently it's been on Netflix for a while now and I never noticed. (The movie, that is.)

    I must watch it.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I watched Helvetica back in November...it was pretty interesting. I liked that they interviewed people who love the typeface as well as people who hate the typeface.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    lee4hmz said:

    Yeah, the Swirling Star was actually supposed to be Taft's logo, and they used it in the Taft International Pictures logo:

    That makes its use at the end of The Powerpuff Girls even stranger, to me, considering that Taft wasn't really even a thing anymore by 1998.
  • edited 2012-08-18 19:13:48
    Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
    Looking at the pictures, I'm afraid I'm not enough of a typeface expert to tell the difference very well. Sorry.

    But I was amused by the digits in 24 being squished together on the pharmacy sign.
  • edited 2012-08-18 19:08:11
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    Indeed, Taft had fallen apart a good decade before that. I guess they did it as a shout-out not to the rock-bottom H-B of 1979, but the slowly improving H-B of the late 1980s; I know that when I first saw it at the end of PPG, I was really excited about it, given how much H-B crap I watched back in the day.
  • edited 2012-08-18 20:05:36
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    Now I'm wondering how The Cheat can talk to Compy tech support if he supposedly can't speak human languages. Maybe he talks in a Powered By The Cheat voice?
  • Doctor Who reference in Pokemon B2W2? Headcanon accepted.
    lee4hmz said:

    Now I'm wondering how The Cheat can talk to Compy tech support if he supposedly can't speak human languages. Maybe he talks in a Powered By The Cheat voice?

    It's probably because your average tech support rep can't speak english either
  • I just got back from shopping at the supermarket and in about two hours I'm going to have to go to one for work.

    Not having a good day.

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