Lumine: I guess to I think plenty of kids books have merit it's just many are more simple in style that people look down on them. gjgjjg Of course, I like a good deal of adlut books too.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I get guilty reading children's books. But, I can't help it, I just like the stories and many times (like in fantasy) they are much more creative. But, I also guilt trip like I'm not reading enough "serious" books. D:
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I'm the same way. I find oftentimes I prefer reading/watching things aimed at children over those aimed at adults, because I can let my imagination run with it much more. But then I worry it makes me some sort of manchild who never grew up intellectually or emotionally, or something.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I had a friend when I was 3. She was the little girl next door.
I remember one incident when I got upset because she had some makeup and wouldn't share it with me because I was a boy. So I ran to our mothers and tattled on her and they made her share.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
squidmine: I didn't have anyone to do Link Cable stuff with, either. I usually went without, which didn't bother me too much in the end.
I know I've mentioned this before, but I've made some friends at my school. Unfortunately, I don't get together with them as much as I'd like, partly because I'm too nervous to ask about it.
CA: I like how one of the tags on that green stop sign article is "horror." Partly because it doesn't seem to fit to me.
Spacey: that's one of the rare exceptions. Others include the Narnia books and The Phantom Tollbooth.
I never got why people think the narnia books are so great. It's like the ham-fisted symbolism of The Scarlet Letter combined with generic fantasy.
Have you read them?
I'm not trying to be accusatory, but a lot of people who proclaim to dislike them (or at least a lot of people that I've met) never have. Which is why I ask.
Also, if you're going to dislike the Narnia books for anything, dislike them for The Carlomen, not the religious symbolism.
For me the best parts were: the whole Voyage of the Dawn Treader (because I like that sea voyage stuff), the early history of Narnia in The Magician's Nephew, and the very last chapters of The Last Battle (minus one clumsy misstep).
When using symbolism the different aspects and presentations of the symbol should compliment and reflect on the thing represented, and cause the reader to think on and discover new ways of looking at the subject.
Symbolism is THE key device in the Narnia books, and the way Lewis uses it is shallow, one-dimensional and, ultimately in my opinion, utterly pointless.
The last thing western literature needs is another Jesus allegory that brings nothing to the table.
Well, the Narnia books are basically religious allegories for children; I don't think Lewis would have wanted to overly obfuscate the message or leave too much open to speculation, for precisely that reason. I still found them less heavy-handed than His Dark Materials, though.
I don't think Lewis' views on women or Arabic peoples were particularly "interesting" given his upbringing and the society he was writing in. He was pretty traditional, and sadly that does mean that parts of his books display some very obvious prejudices.
They're about an eminently sensible and headstrong princess who, finding out that she's going to be forced to marry a very obnoxious prince, goes off and gets voluntarily "kidnapped" by a dragon (*Read as "Employed cleaning and organizing and translating the dragon's massive library"*).
Well, the Narnia books are basically religious allegories for children; I don't think Lewis would have wanted to overly obfuscate the message or leave too much open to speculation, for precisely that reason. I still found them less heavy-handed than His Dark Materials, though.
HDM is seriously among the worst books I've ever read. Only read Compass and I absolutely hated it.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
FM: I remember kinda liking the first book of Enchanted Forest Chronicles. I didn't read anything after that, though.
But HDM didn't really involve symbolism. God dying isn't really a symbol for god dying if it's, erm, god dying.
Shaped like itself, y'know?
Well, the Narnia books are basically religious allegories for children; I don't think Lewis would have wanted to overly obfuscate the message or leave too much open to speculation, for precisely that reason.
I hate it when things are dumbed down for children. Even as a kid I couldn't stand it.
I'd sit there with something way above my head and throw a temper tantrum and pull my hair when I didn't get it, but I still prefered it to condescension.
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Didn't bother me.
Oh ho ho, I kill me
Nevertheless, I did have a "girlfriend" when I was 4...how odd.
Have you read them?
I'm not trying to be accusatory, but a lot of people who proclaim to dislike them (or at least a lot of people that I've met) never have. Which is why I ask.
Also, if you're going to dislike the Narnia books for anything, dislike them for The Carlomen, not the religious symbolism.
^ Yes, I have read them. And it's not the symbolism I object to, it's the ham-fisted symbolism.
Symbolism is THE key device in the Narnia books, and the way Lewis uses it is shallow, one-dimensional and, ultimately in my opinion, utterly pointless.
The last thing western literature needs is another Jesus allegory that brings nothing to the table.
The symbolism is pretty heavy handed.
Still, as Lumine said, the author had some....interesting ideas on what the roles of women and Arabs in society were.
Never heard of them.
My literary intake when I was younger was limited.
I recall loving Walk Two Moons, but I don't recall why.
Also recall hating The View From Sunday, but again could not tell you the reasons behind that.
I loved The Divide series, but no one else seems to have read those.
I don't think Lewis' views on women or Arabic peoples were particularly "interesting" given his upbringing and the society he was writing in. He was pretty traditional, and sadly that does mean that parts of his books display some very obvious prejudices.
Shenanigans and political intrigue ensue.
HDM is seriously among the worst books I've ever read. Only read Compass and I absolutely hated it.
I Was a Rat was better.
But HDM didn't really involve symbolism. God dying isn't really a symbol for god dying if it's, erm, god dying.
Shaped like itself, y'know? I hate it when things are dumbed down for children. Even as a kid I couldn't stand it.
I'd sit there with something way above my head and throw a temper tantrum and pull my hair when I didn't get it, but I still prefered it to condescension.
I suppose.
I always felt that Pullman was trying to set himself up as the anti-Lewis, but I don't think that there was ever really a need for anyone to do that.
Is duh overly rude? I could never figure out a way to express that sentiment correctly.
Ah well. Stupid language and not having the word I want.