People complaining about Microsoft taking away the F8 shortcut for Safe Mode

Princess Alice

I don't get it. The whole reason for changing it was that modern computers boot up too fast for you to actually have the time to press F8 before it's too far into the boot sequence. Do people just not think about that before they go all "MICROSOFT HATES ITS USERS" or what?

Obā-san

didn't this happen like

a year ago

Princess Alice

Yes, but now that the people who were still on Windows 7 are upgrading to Windows 10, they're finding out about it for the first time.

glennmagusharvey

How does one boot to safe mode in Win10?

Imipolex G

I'm pretty sure you've mentioned this before

I don't even know what the point of "safe mode" is

Salix Babylonika

It disables certain features and at least ostensibly makes it harder for viruses and other malware to act up.

Imipolex G

oh

Salix Babylonika

I don't think I've ever had it actually work for me so as far as I'm concerned it's about as effective as sprinkling salt in a circle around your computer, but, hey.

Princess Alice

glennmagusharvey said:

How does one boot to safe mode in Win10?

If your computer is still functional, you can reboot to safe mode through the Settings app

If you can't do that, you gotta have a Windows installation DVD or USB (thankfully official ISOs are easy to obtain).

Jane said:

It disables certain features and at least ostensibly makes it harder for viruses and other malware to act up.

The idea is that it loads the minimum amount of software for basic functionality. That's why the resolution gets screwy sometimes...it loads a generic video driver instead of the one for your card.

Sredni Vashtar

glennmagusharvey said:

How does one boot to safe mode in Win10?

1. Partition your hard-drive.
2. Install Mac OS X.
3. Run Mac OS X.

Salix Babylonika

Sredni Vashtar said:

glennmagusharvey said:

How does one boot to safe mode in Win10?

1. Partition your hard-drive.
2. Install Mac OS X.
3. Run Mac OS X.

SREDNIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Obā-san

Sredni Vashtar said:

glennmagusharvey said:

How does one boot to safe mode in Win10?

1. Partition your hard-drive.
2. Install Mac OS X.
3. Run Mac OS X.

4.

Princess Alice

I know you're being snarky but seriously Hackintoshes are nothing but pain

I don't know why anyone bothers; surely the money you saved by not buying an actual Mac can't be worth THAT much frustration

Obā-san

earlier i was watching a video where a dude was reviewing a macbook from 2006 and it ran better with windows 10 than it did with the most recent version of OSX that the computer could still use

Sredni Vashtar

Central Avenue said:

I know you're being snarky but seriously Hackintoshes are nothing but pain

I don't know why anyone bothers; surely the money you saved by not buying an actual Mac can't be worth THAT much frustration

I would have just said "buy a Mac," but that doesn't afford me an appropriate buildup. Yes, you want the real McCoy. Anything else is probably going to be some level of pain in the neck.

Today is Tomorrow said:

earlier i was watching a video where a dude was reviewing a macbook from 2006 and it ran better with windows 10 than it did with the most recent version of OSX that the computer could still use

That makes a surprising amount of sense for a couple of reasons.

Sredni Vashtar

Jane said:

Sredni Vashtar said:

glennmagusharvey said:

How does one boot to safe mode in Win10?

1. Partition your hard-drive.
2. Install Mac OS X.
3. Run Mac OS X.

SREDNIIIIIIIIIIIIII

My mission is complete.

Imipolex G

Macs should be banned

LOAD Cherry

Imipolex G said:

Macs should be banned

Monopoly laws prevent that.

Imipolex G

what does some stupid board game have to do with this

Sredni Vashtar

Windows still dominates the market and I have a PowerPC which runs fine and yet is too outdated to run multiple things I like.

So give me this one thing I can be mildly smug about.

glennmagusharvey

Sredni Vashtar said:

glennmagusharvey said:

How does one boot to safe mode in Win10?

1. Partition your hard-drive.
2. Install Linux.
3. Run Linux.

FTFY

Knightess Cerise said:

Imipolex G said:

Macs should be banned

Monopoly laws prevent that.

Clearly we should all run ALTIMIT.

Salix Babylonika

or MagicScreen

MissUtilis

Imipolex G said:

Macs should be banned

:(

Sredni Vashtar

glennmagusharvey said:

Sredni Vashtar said:

glennmagusharvey said:

How does one boot to safe mode in Win10?

1. Partition your hard-drive.
2. Install Linux.
3. Run Linux.

FTFY

Knightess Cerise said:

Imipolex G said:

Macs should be banned

Monopoly laws prevent that.

Clearly we should all run ALTIMIT.

Aren't more viruses to attack Linux machines than there are those aimed at Macs, though? I was talking about security here.

MissUtilis

is Linux more widespread now? Because I distinctly remember, last I heard about Linux viruses (which was in like 2011-12), thinking Linux was a niche computing platform

Salix Babylonika

It's not, but no one hates Linux users more than other Linux users.

Salix Babylonika

There is some seriously deep fractional infighting that happens there.

Sredni Vashtar

Indeed.

MissUtilis

I've never used Linux (though one of mother's laptops once ran Ubuntu), so I don't know about the Linux community :n

Salix Babylonika

Just as an example I've never used anything Linux (and I never would, I see no value in making that much work for myself), but I can name for you several Linux distros including Ubuntu, Fedora, and Haiku. Those are just ones I've seen referenced around, and as far as I'm aware, they have nearly nothing in common.

Imipolex G

I remember my dad playing around with Linux circa 1996. Seemed like absolutely nobody had heard of it then

Salix Babylonika

Haiku in particular is like an "art OS" or something?

Klinotaxis

haiku isn't a linux distro, though i understand your confusion.

Klinotaxis

also, yes, avoid the linux community. we are presently having a meltdown concerning people who use bug trackers to yell at people and people who use bug trackers to say things, and then there's systemd, jesus fucking christ

Zeether

Richard Stallman uses emacs to read his email

lee4hmz

I don't really have an opinion one way or another on systemd, but there's quite a few people who are convinced that GNOME is trying to commandeer Linux with it.