Soulja Boy proves Braid is bad

Odradek

im calm as ice

Calica

i remember watching that video and wasn't he, like, stoned and fucking around with the time thing because it was fun

Odradek

I wonder if I See Clam ever feels bad he commited himself to hating all non-Shmup indie games from the beginning, and every year he has to hate more and more games.

Salix Babylonika

Soulja Boy has had several hit singles and Johnathan Blow has not so I'm inclined to trust his opinion here.

Obā-san

I literally have never heard a good thing about Braid

Odradek

planet JANE said:

Soulja Boy has had several hit singles and Johnathan Blow has not so I'm inclined to trust his opinion here.

This is a good point and one I should consider

naney said:

I literally have never heard a good thing about Braid

Wrong.

Obā-san

well if I have I cannot recall

Salix Babylonika

naney said:

I literally have never heard a good thing about Braid

It's widely critically acclaimed but so are AC/DC.

Odradek

planet JANE said:

naney said:

I literally have never heard a good thing about Braid

It's widely critically acclaimed but so are AC/DC.

Not making your case here

Obā-san

the only thing I know of regarding braid and critics was that roger ebert was less than thrilled with it

Odradek

Obā-san

top kek

Calica

Odradek said:

cliffy b seems both hilariously trashy and actually a pretty decent dude

Salix Babylonika

Odradek said:

planet JANE said:

naney said:

I literally have never heard a good thing about Braid

It's widely critically acclaimed but so are AC/DC.

Not making your case here

my case is that both are awful

Calica

time to start posting pillar men

Odradek

Calica said:

time to start posting pillar men

Awaken, my souljas

Imipolex G

AC/DC are all right

Tachyon

there are better bands but they're not terrible imo

Salix Babylonika

I dislike their music.

Imipolex G

that seems evident

Obā-san

ACxDC > AC/DC

Tachyon

whoops we did the dogpiling thing again didn't we

i literally just clicked on the thread and offered my opinion, i wasn't trying to argue

like why would you even argue about that, it's pretty subjective

Obā-san

Tachyon

heavy

Imipolex G

DOGPILE

Tachyon

counterpoint: catpile

Obā-san

Tachyon said:

whoops we did the dogpiling thing again didn't we

i literally just clicked on the thread and offered my opinion, i wasn't trying to argue

like why would you even argue about that, it's pretty subjective

who are we dogpiling on?

im so confused right now

Tachyon

well Jane was all

planet JANE said:

I dislike their music.

which is an opinion she already expressed, right

so i took it to mean 'look that's all i'm saying alright stop trying to convince me they're good'

when i spell this out like this i realize i maybe read too much into this

idk

Imipolex G

the dogpile doesn't stop from getting taller

glennmagusharvey

I've played some of Braid.

It's an interesting puzzle platformer.

I'm not smart enough (or not patient enough) to beat it without guides.

The story...it seemed more like flavortext, I guess.

Is the game art?

You can say it's art; you can say it's not art.

It's as much art as other games are art.

I personally believe games are art anyway.

Sorry, I just sorta ignore the whole argument over whether specific games are or aren't art, and simply declare all of them art.

Obā-san

its just dogs all the way down

Tachyon

i'm stupid, i'm sorry

i played some braid one time and got stuck i think

glennmagusharvey

why do people argue whether games are art

they are works in a creative medium

therefore they are all art

Tachyon

cuz 'works in a creative medium' is not a universally recognized definition of the word 'art'

Section42L

Braid seems like something I might like, and I suspect that much of the hatred towards it is projecting the developer's admittedly dumb behaviour onto it, much like what happened with Fez.

I can't say for sure, though, and I don't want to appear stupid in case I'm wrong, so just whatever, I guess.

Tachyon

what did the braid creator do again?

Yarrun XIX

I've always just been surprised by the level of hype.

Yes, it's a platformer with time mechanics and slightly more interesting than usual plot. That's just a few steps above every Kongregate game published from 2008 to 2011

Odradek

I want you to listen to this while telling me Braid is a bad game.

Not because it will change your mind, you'll just be listening to good music while calling a game shitty.

Salix Babylonika

Tachyon said:

what did the braid creator do again?

he's a racist and general douchebag.

Braid isn't a good game imo though whereas I actually thought Fez was.

Yarrun XIX

...okay, the soundtrack is leagues better than anything Kongregate has ever put up. Well, a league at least.

Tachyon

i remember that music, it's good

and apparently Blow said Japanese games were 'joyless husks'

which is dumb

Odradek

The director of L.A. Noire was a masterclass douchebag, but that's a good game.

glennmagusharvey

Tachyon said:

cuz 'works in a creative medium' is not a universally recognized definition of the word 'art'

well it's my definition i guess

so who cares about others' definitions

we're talking about art anyway

One-Winged Eagle

Bastion's better than Braid.

Also, the debate about what is and isn't art is far older than any of us put together, and from what I can tell, having an all-encompassing definition isn't going to cut it.

The debating what is and isn't art, ironically, is a craft.

Calica

bastion, the stanley parable, portal, and thomas was alone are breakout hits of the "really awesome voiced narrator says lots of entertaining things while you play" genre of video games

Odradek

Fuck the Stanley Parable.

Me and Magic Jane can agree on this.

Salix Babylonika

Odradek said:

Fuck the Stanley Parable.

Me and Magic Jane can agree on this.

yes