HE'S SURELY ALIVE HE'S LIVING ON THE INSIDE ROARING LIKE A LION GOD'S NOT DEAD HE'S SURELY ALIVE HE'

Odradek

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/hayley-orrantia-gods-not-dead-2-cast-the-goldbergs-1201532094/

Calica

and that student...was Albert Einstein

Tachyon

kind of a shame to see Melissa Joan Hart involved in this drivel

maybe it's something she really wanted to do . . . she is a republican supporter, after all

but i can't help wondering if she's not just taking whatever pays, since her movie kickstarter didn't work out and Melissa and Joey's getting cancelled

Odradek

When a star appears in something like this, it's usually because it's something they deeply believe in, unless they are Nicholas Cage and just need money.

Tachyon

that's fair, then

i'm not sure how much of a name she really is at this point

Yarrun XIX

Does Nicholas Cage even do it for the money at this point?

I know Left Behind was because someone who was close to him and religious shooed him into it.

Odradek

Yarrun XIX said:

Does Nicholas Cage even do it for the money at this point?

I know Left Behind was because someone who was close to him and religious shooed him into it.

He does most things for money now, because he made a lot of bad investment decisions and it screwed him over.

Hopefully he can go back to doing movies he's invested in soon.

Yarrun XIX

I hate that celebrities often waste their money on stupid things.

Not because it's consumptive, but because it shows that they have no friends that care about them. If you were Mike Tyson's true friend, you'd let your compassion for him override your desire to see him purchase an actual tiger.

Odradek

On the other hand, why would you be Mike Tyson's true friend.

One-Winged Eagle

If you're rich, you have no true friends. Only toadies. Other rich people are just rivals.

It is a hard thing to be rich. Very insecure.

But at the same time, fuck 'em.

lee4hmz

Tachyon said:

kind of a shame to see Melissa Joan Hart involved in this drivel

maybe it's something she really wanted to do . . . she is a republican supporter, after all

but i can't help wondering if she's not just taking whatever pays, since her movie kickstarter didn't work out and Melissa and Joey's getting cancelled

wait, since when was she hanging out with Evangelical types?

Salix Babylonika

My mom loves this movie. I've seen it in bits and pieces and it goes against basically anything I've ever stood for as a Christian.

The soundtrack album, while very generic, is mostly inoffensive.

Except for "Redeemer". That song sits on a precarious balancing point between terrible and kinda catchy.

Tachyon

lee4hmz said:

Tachyon said:

kind of a shame to see Melissa Joan Hart involved in this drivel

maybe it's something she really wanted to do . . . she is a republican supporter, after all

but i can't help wondering if she's not just taking whatever pays, since her movie kickstarter didn't work out and Melissa and Joey's getting cancelled

wait, since when was she hanging out with Evangelical types?

idk, is she hanging out with evangelicals?

i just know she supported Bob Dole and Mitt Romney and now she's in this movie

Imipolex G

sez Wikipedia, which cannot be wrong: "Hart and her family are Christians. In an interview, she stated that they attend church every Sunday and pray every night and before every meal."

Section42L

Odradek said:

Yarrun XIX said:

Does Nicholas Cage even do it for the money at this point?

I know Left Behind was because someone who was close to him and religious shooed him into it.

He does most things for money now, because he made a lot of bad investment decisions and it screwed him over.

Hopefully he can go back to doing movies he's invested in soon.

I always thought that he was the type who actually liked acting in bad movies.

Were these investment decisions made in the past few years, or are they older than that?

lee4hmz

Imipolex G-cup said:

sez Wikipedia, which cannot be wrong: "Hart and her family are Christians. In an interview, she stated that they attend church every Sunday and pray every night and before every meal."

Huh. I figured she was cooler than that, but I guess not. :/ Then again, it's 2015 and all the people I liked as a kid are old now. :P

Tachyon

if that's what she truly believes, there's nothing wrong with that

i think movies like this are kind of ignorant and resort to stereotypes a lot, not to mention twee

but she's entitled to her faith

Odradek

I hope after the God's Not Dead movies are over, they adapt the other works in the series, Two Sets Of Footprints and Nigerian Prince.

Odradek

Does evil exist? 

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!" 

"God created everything? The professor asked. 

"Yes sir", the student replied. 

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth. 

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?" 

"Of course", replied the professor. 

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?" 

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question. 

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat." 

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?" 

The professor responded, "Of course it does." 

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present." 

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?" 

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil." 

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light." 

The professor sat down. 

The young man's name — Albert Einstein.

Odradek

A college class was led by an atheist professor, and every day he'd stand in front of his class and say, "Have you ever seen God?" to which nobody would answer. Then he'd ask, "Have you ever felt God?" and nobody would answer. Finally he'd ask, "Have you ever heard God?" and, like the other times, nobody would answer. He then would say, "It is obvious that there is no God." 

One day a Christian student had been having an extremely bad day; her car broke down, her mother was sick, her boyfriend was out of town, and she'd gotten a bad grade on one of her exams. She had been fed up with her professor's little act every morning, so she decided to do something about it. 

While the professor stood up at the beginning of class and did his thing, the student had an idea. She got up and said, "Professor, would you mind if I said something?" He said, "Of course not. This is an expressive classroom, and I think it would be fine if you spoke your mind." 

The girl said to the class, "Have you ever seen our professor's brain?" and nobody answered. Then she asked, "Have you ever felt our professor's brain?" and nobody answered. Finally she asked, "Have you ever heard our professor's brain?" and, like the other times, nobody answered. 

She then said, "It is quite obvious that our professor has no brain." 

Odradek

An atheist professor was teaching a college class and he told the class that he was going to prove that there is no God. 

He said, "God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you 15 minutes!" 

Ten minutes went by. 

The professor kept taunting God, saying, "Here I am, God. I'm still waiting." 

He got down to the last couple of minutes and a Marine just released from active duty, and newly registered in the class, walked up to the professor, hit him full force in the face, and sent him flying from his platform. 

The professor struggled up, obviously shaken and yelled, "What's the matter with you? Why did you do that?" 

The Marine replied, "God was busy, so He sent me." 

Odradek

Navy SEALs are always taught 

1) Keep your priorities in order and
2) Know when to act without hesitation. 

A Navy SEAL was attending some college courses between assignments. He had completed missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. One of the courses had a professor who was an avowed atheist and a member of the ACLU. One day he shocked the class when he came in, looked to the ceiling, and flatly stated, "God, if you are real, then I want you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes." 

The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ten minutes went by and the professor proclaimed, "Here I am God. I'm still waiting." 

It got down to the last couple of minutes when the SEAL got out of his chair, went up to the professor, and cold-cocked him; knocking him off the platform. The professor was out cold. The SEAL went back to his seat and sat there, silently. The other students were shocked and stunned and sat there looking on in silence. 

The professor eventually came to, noticeably shaken, looked at the SEAL and asked, "What the hell is the matter with you? Why did you do that?" 

The SEAL calmly replied, "God was too busy today protecting America's soldiers who are protecting your right to say stupid shit and act like an asshole. So He sent me."

Salix Babylonika

please stop

Odradek

I was once at a dinner party, trying to explain to a man what I did for a living, when he said: "I don't believe Artificial Intelligence is possible because only God can make a soul."

At this point I must have been divinely inspired, because I instantly responded: "You mean if I can make an Artificial Intelligence, it proves your religion is false?"

He said, "What?"

I said, "Well, if your religion predicts that I can't possibly make an Artificial Intelligence, then, if I make an Artificial Intelligence, it means your religion is false. Either your religion allows that it might be possible for me to build an AI; or, if I build an AI, that disproves your religion."

There was a pause, as the one realized he had just made his hypothesis vulnerable to falsification, and then he said, "Well, I didn't mean that you couldn't make an intelligence, just that it couldn't be emotional in the same way we are."

I said, "So if I make an Artificial Intelligence that, without being deliberately preprogrammed with any sort of script, starts talking about an emotional life that sounds like ours, that means your religion is wrong."

He said, "Well, um, I guess we may have to agree to disagree on this."

I said: "No, we can't, actually. There's a theorem of rationality called Aumann's Agreement Theorem which shows that no two rationalists can agree to disagree. If two people disagree with each other, at least one of them must be doing something wrong."

We went back and forth on this briefly. Finally, he said, "Well, I guess I was really trying to say that I don't think you can make something eternal."

I said, "Well, I don't think so either! I'm glad we were able to reach agreement on this, as Aumann's Agreement Theorem requires."  I stretched out my hand, and he shook it, and then he wandered away.

A woman who had stood nearby, listening to the conversation, said to me gravely, "That was beautiful."

"Thank you very much," I said.

Klinotaxis

my god, it's evolving

Alduin

Planet Jane said:

My mom loves this movie. I've seen it in bits and pieces and it goes against basically anything I've ever stood for as a Christian.

The soundtrack album, while very generic, is mostly inoffensive.

Except for "Redeemer". That song sits on a precarious balancing point between terrible and kinda catchy.

I have Catholic friends who watched it because they thought it was funny.

Odradek

Tomorrow, I will liveblog that video composed of just the debate scenes because I hate myself.

Alduin

DO IT

Aliroz

Imipolex G-cup said:

sez Wikipedia, which cannot be wrong: "Hart and her family are Christians. In an interview, she stated that they attend church every Sunday and pray every night and before every meal."

So does my family.

Imipolex G

And that's fine.