Who in Fate/Zero survives that isn't in Fate/Stay Night, other than Waver?
Depends on your definition of survives in this context. I mean, Kiritsugu and Cornelius are still alive, even if they die pre-F/SN and in KnK respectively.
I mean, there are some really good VAs who are really well-cast (I love Jamieson Price and Crispin Freeman is sexy as Kotomine), but there are a lot more eeeeeeeh actors
Kinda disappointing. The Magi dub (by the same dubbing studio, I think) was really good.
the main thing I know about the F/0 dub is the actors they chose for Waver and Rider could easily get away with cosplaying Waver and Rider in real life
I appreciate how Rin Tohsaka, despite being a tsundere, acts like an actual fucking human being and not some strange creature that switches between being a moe-blob and a humanoid typhoon of physical abuse
I could handle Maka Albarn in Soul Eater because Soul Eater's deliberately cartoony and over-the-top, but other examples usually make me want to punch something
3 episodes deep into Ground Control to Psychoelectric Girl
no idea what to make of it
at all.
it's not even that it's weird, it's just that it's pretending to be a slice of life show right now, and I know things are going to pop off in some direction eventually, but I'm not sure how or when.
there's plenty of clues that something weird is going on. You don't bring up shit like a girl going missing for several months and being found floating in the sea, and the mother never remembering conceiving her without it leading somewhere.
I really like anime (and media in general) like this because like usually when something weird or strange or supernatural is a main plot element, the characters find out about it super early on. That moment of discovery, where the characters' old lives crack apart beneath them and they discover the truth of their universe, and if it's a good show, that we share with them, is usually incredibly short--15 or so minutes--if it happens at all.
shows like this extend that and unspool it over the course of a whole series, creating an underlying mystery. Maybe something'll happen, maybe something won't, but it's more interesting than if they had just told us from day one. If it DOES happen, we won't know what until we get there.
I haven't seen anything past the first episode, but I have heard that it's wish-fulfillment-y and might also poorly characterize the female lead as a result.
i was thinking of maybe at some point binging a lot of kids' action series as research for a thing, maybe i'll watch it when i do that and make up my own mind
SAO has a predictable plot alongside boring characters and weak characterization for almost everyone, alongside a gross wish fulfillment overall vibe to it. The last I don't take inherent issue with in this, but it shows as a weakness when every other aspect isn't much to write home about. This is just a tired summary of the show, mind, and I've only seen ~16 episodes of the first season. Nonetheless, if you want VRMMORPG drama and the like, go to Log Horizon, not SAO. If you want, I could PM you my thoughts in full later (I just don't like talking about it, and publicly there are a lot more fun things to discuss than that boring show).
I don't have any preference per se, honestly. Both are really good in my eyes, although I'll have to go with the dub for - in my eyes - getting the Anarchy sisters' irreverence across better. Admittedly I'm focusing on that aspect due to not having watched through all of the sub in years, and there are definitely things I don't have the energy to elaborate on at the moment. But I'd go with it, it definitely works well.
SAO is legit for...three episodes. Mind, it's not great, but it's tolerable.
It's around episode 4 when things really start to suck. Basically an interesting premise and honestly fantastic visuals are wasted because the author has zero grasp on romance, character development, tension, subversion of audience expectations, drama, comedy, or any method of keeping the viewer invested other than its male power fantasy protagonist.
i asked my brother what was so good about it and he said the soundtrack mostly, and also the first season had a good story and there was one particular antagonist who was really nasty in a way that was really hatable and made you want to see them get taken down
i asked what he thought of the criticism that it was wish-fulfillment and he said he didn't think it was
And oh yeah, it totally is wish-fulfillment. The protagonist (Kirito) describes himself as "nerdy, shy and awkward" despite possessing none of those traits, and his assessment of his abilities is never shown to be skewed.
Basically it exists so that teenage nerds can pretend that they're brave and powerful and badass. It's wish-fulfillment at its finest, and not even entertaining wish-fulfillment at that.
^^ yeah i'm not doubting you or anyone here, just relaying his opinion i guess
He got me into a bunch of shows that i liked to a greater or lesser extent (FMA, One Piece, Baccano!, Fairy Tail) so i tend to trust his opinions, but it sounds like he's wrong on this one
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I think that's it.
Doesn't mean I'm not going to watch it.
and one of his lines is "DeathGun is my name and the name of my gun.... My gun brings death."
this makes me want to see this
i haven't seen it but most things he has recommended me have been enjoyable
what's wrong with it?
i was thinking of maybe at some point binging a lot of kids' action series as research for a thing, maybe i'll watch it when i do that and make up my own mind
wheeeee jumps off a cliff
to clarify, for 'the thing' i was planning on watching a fair amount of bad cartoons, to get a feel for the cliches
(this may not be a thing i end up doing)
tho while you're here:
PSG: which is better, sub or dub?
SAO is legit for...three episodes. Mind, it's not great, but it's tolerable.
It's around episode 4 when things really start to suck. Basically an interesting premise and honestly fantastic visuals are wasted because the author has zero grasp on romance, character development, tension, subversion of audience expectations, drama, comedy, or any method of keeping the viewer invested other than its male power fantasy protagonist.
i asked what he thought of the criticism that it was wish-fulfillment and he said he didn't think it was
You're the second person to recommend it to me i think
Eeeeeh, it's OK.
He got me into a bunch of shows that i liked to a greater or lesser extent (FMA, One Piece, Baccano!, Fairy Tail) so i tend to trust his opinions, but it sounds like he's wrong on this one
I want to rewatch it at some point because I'm curious if I'd still like it, but it's low-priority on my list ATM.