Kinda surprised Linkin Park never appeared on those "argle bargle white rappers" posts tumblr liked

Odradek

to do

Princess Alice

Mike Shinoda is Asian

not that I'd expect the people making such posts to know that, or care

Odradek

Well he's half-Japanese and the one drop rule of what counts as white is in effect for everyone but Marx

Anonus

So am I white to these people

Odradek

I wouldn't know

Salix Babylonika

I would like to say "because Mike Shinoda has a storied career outside of Linkin Park and has worked with (among other people) Lupe Fiasco and Ghostface Killah" but no less a godfather than E fucking 40 loves Macklemore and that's not stopped anyone, so.

Yarrun XIX

I mean, Iggy Azalea was backed by a famous black rapper too, as I vaguely recall, but that didn't make her, you know, not terrible.

Klinotaxis

problematicity is problematic

Salix Babylonika

Yarrun XIX said:

I mean, Iggy Azalea was backed by a famous black rapper too, as I vaguely recall, but that didn't make her, you know, not terrible.

yeah but A) Iggy Azalea fucking sucks even if she weren't an appropriating dickweed and B) even T.I., her own former label boss, has been sick of her shit for years. Also Iggy is Australian. Both Macklemore and Shinoda are American.

Macklemore had a very long career before "Thrift Shop" happened. He was a cornerstone figure in the Seattle Underground for years. Other MCs liking him is a sort of "Busta Rhymes is a huge MURS fan" situation, the difference in notoriety didn't prevent him from being liked by other rappers even if he sometimes did silly things like say rapping over "Axel F".

Shinoda's more or less in the same camp though his underground career came after his presence in the pop world. Dude had a beat on Lice, it's just not the sort of thing you do if you're only making music to make a buck or get famous.

Salix Babylonika

that probably sounds cattier than I intend it to

I just have always thought that the Macklemore hate circlejerk was super weird. Dude's kind of corny and maybe overly-earnest (which isn't really even a character flaw per se) but he's not a bad person.

Yarrun XIX

You know that, but I didn't explicitly know that, and neither do the people to who run those sorts of blogs

Klinotaxis

personally i was surprised when i saw linkin park being "rap rock" or whatever, i mostly just thought of them as linkin park

Sredni Vashtar

Macklemore is one of those artists who it's very easy to forget has been around forever. I mean, "White Privilege II" is the sequel to a song from his only proper LP, which dropped in 2005, which was five years after his first EP.

Hexartes

Question: What is the hot take on Murs because I have heard one (1) song of his

Section42L

I get the feeling it's because Linkin Park "rocks" and Macklemore doesn't.

Section42L

Also,

Anonus said:

So am I white to these people

You have brown skin, so you're probably okay.

CA is the one they'd consider white.

Salix Babylonika

Hexartes said:

Question: What is the hot take on Murs because I have heard one (1) song of his

Tumblr doesn't care about MURS because in addition to making music he has a quote unquote real job at a hardware store and is also an actual political activist and is therefore hard to dig up dirt on. Also he's not really famous.

Sredni Vashtar

What do they think about Aesop Rock and El-P and Despot, though.

Odradek

They don't, because none of the people who grumbled about Macklemore are actually big rap fans

Sredni Vashtar

Aesop isn't even obscure. He's not Jay-Z famous, but if you actually listen to music that isn't on the Top 40 and aren't some weird one-genre anorak you've probably heard of him.

Section42L

Odradek said:

They don't, because none of the people who grumbled about Macklemore are actually big rap fans

They probably know Run the Jewels, at least, and El-P is part of that.

Odradek

No I don't think you understand

These people only know about rap that reaches the top 10 on Billboard

Calica

everyone knows the only good white rappers are chapo trap house

Salix Babylonika

it is worth mentioning that El and Aes are both Jewish I guess.

Despot has never released an album, so.