Fallenverse Games (Fallen London, Sunless Sea, etc.)

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-30 20:27:17

how tf do you make money in this game

edit: this is now a general thread about Failbetter's Fallen London 'verse games.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-30 20:32:03

I am trying to buy a house so I can raise my child but I am spending all my money on necessities

game hits too close to home

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-30 20:38:27

A. Port reports, port reports, port reports. They won't fill your coffers, per se, but they'll keep you fueled. This goes double the farther you are from London. Irem or the Empire of Hands will pay more than Mutton Island

B. Sphinxstone deliveries will keep you afloat for a while. Just make sure you have 200 Echoes for the deposit before you go.

C. The Salt Lions also allow you to farm Extraordinary Implications, which is something I stumbled onto out of sheer luck. Get Salt's Attention from Cynthia at Hunter's Keep, then go to the Salt Lions and click the new option. Those sell in London for 250 Echoes each.

C. The Principles is the best cash cow after Sphinxstone, though it takes a fair bit of setting up. Find Port Cecil, play chess until you can't play chess anymore, get Salt's Attention from Cynthia at Hunter's Keep. Everything it asks for after that is relatively obtainable, and it pays out 350 echoes worth of Scintillack per object

D. Out of all of the officers, the Tireless Mechanic's quest will pay out the fastest and easiest. I won't spoil too much, but take note of what you get after he takes a nap, and think about who might want it. Guess right and that'll get you a Captivating Treasure

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-30 20:45:08

E. The Merchant Venturer always pays well, even if it's a pain to get his stuff sometimes

F. Mt. Palmerston's quest is relatively short and will pay out a Captivating Treasure

G. Same with the one for Visage, though that tends to be a pain to find.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-30 20:45:46

you have to get a thing for the Tireless Mechanic to be able to sleep though yeah?

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-30 20:48:45

I need a clay man and a mirrorcatch box

how does one acquire these

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-30 20:52:29

Clay Men come from Polythreme. Mirrorcatch Box can be bought at the Khan's Shadow

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-30 20:53:31

So I have a Reproach gun.

I could sell it for a hundred echoes, that would put me at 175e, almost enough to start the sphinxstone trade

is that worth it? I do have the default gun you start with too (which I could sell for 10e) but idk

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-30 20:56:43

Parabola Linen!

I had a bunch and I sold it, now I have 400e.

Nevermind!

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-30 21:00:19

Oh, yeah, always sell anything you get unless you have plans for it.

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-30 21:00:40

Oh, and what origin did you pick? It relates to the Sphinxstone quest

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-30 21:07:10

Natural Scientist

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-30 21:16:59

Ooh, I never got to the end of that quest with that one.

Long story short, at the end of the quest, you have the option to deliver the sphinxstone to somewhere else. Well, it's sorta mandatory? The choices are the grand geode at the far Southwest and a location defined by your past

Wiki check says that Natural Scientist is...Adam's Way, to the far South. Not as bad as, say, Irem or Kingeater's Castle, but the South is lousy with Prophets and they'll sink a ship faster than you cay say 'bloody parrots'

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-30 21:22:35

how many runs of this can I make before it runs out? I just did my first now.

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-30 21:28:24

A few

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 03:12:25

so what should I be buying with my rock money, anyway

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 03:17:09

Fuel. Supplies. Better gun. Better engine. If you have 3500-4000, you can upgrade to a Corvette, though you might want to save up for the merchant cruiser, since that gets you hella inventory space.

Oh, and save whatever you don't use so you can buy stuff for side-quests. You're not going to win the game without doing hella side-quests

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 03:21:01

Don't get anything that fires torpedos though. Those are expensive. Pick a Flensing weapon instead; you'll be fighting mostly creatures in the endgame, after all

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 03:21:34

Could you tell me what places you've discovered and what officers you've obtained already? It'll help me plan things

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 03:26:49

Hell, just Gyazo the map

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 03:30:13

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 03:44:57

Hmm. Sigil-Ridden Navigator's quest is something you should look into? It's relatively easy and relatively cheap. You'll have to find the Chapel of Lights up north, but it's only a matter of time before the Admiralty sends you up there.

Brisk Campaigner's quest is one of the few that I haven't done, largely because it requires Mutersalt and that is such a cussing cuss to obtain, along with a lot of other things that require extensive traveling.

Irrepressible's is a fun one, and the reward for that is one of my favorite items in the game. You'll need to go to Aestival to get anywhere, and that's far east though.

If you have Something Awaits You and you sail by Mutton Island, make sure you stop and explore. There's an event there with a mysterious lady? If you choose 'obliterate it', you'll get a prize that'll net you 500 echoes in London.

Once you feel confident in your ability to conserve fuel and supplies, you should work on clearing up all that blackness. Look for Port Cecil for the aforementioned Principles Quest, Polythreme for the Mechanic's Clay Men, the Chelonate to get rid of your starter surgeon (that'll be in the far east, likely straight east from Demeaux), The Fathomking's Hold if you took the Father's Bones Ambition (and for emergency refueling - make sure you have spare Zee-Stories)

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 03:46:35

thanks

I think I took the wealth ambition? Or song of the sea, I forget which.

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 03:46:37

So yeah. Teal deer, explore explore explore. And keep an eye out for places that sell fuel and supplies, in case you run short when you're traveling.

Venderbight's one. Palmerston's another. Khan's Shadow, a bit to the southeast of Khan's Heart, is a third.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 03:47:08

oh those are different places

I thought all the Khanate stuff was one location

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 03:48:05

lastly

is buying a Scorpion cannon a good investment

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 03:49:50

ah wait that's an aft weapon, I don't think I can use that

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 03:56:30

Jane said:
thanks

I think I took the wealth ambition? Or song of the sea, I forget which.

Oooh. Zong of the Zee's tricky as hell. I picked that as my ambition after Father's Bones, and I'm still not certain about how I'm going to win that.

Yeah, either way, you're going to want all the money then. So after you run out of quests to make money off of, you're going to have to start hunting or trading.

Hunting can be done with a Corvette, provided you can buy a good forward gun or complete Irrepressible's quest. A Frigate is recommended for safety, but I've killed two of the bosses with just a corvette, so it's a matter of comfort.

Trading's simple enough. Find a place where a good sells for more than it costs somewhere else, and then ship a crapton of the stuff over. I won before I had to trade, but I know Mushroom Wine from London can turn a profit literally everywhere. You will have to get a merchant cruiser or something bigger before you start doing this, and you'll probably have to get a trading license at Khan's Glory to make the big bucks this way. God I hate the Khanate. Smug arrogant...

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 04:01:08

Jane said:
oh those are different places

I thought all the Khanate stuff was one location

Khan's Heart has most of the main stuff. Khan's Glory is where you go to get rid of Suspicion and get a trading license. Khan's Shadow sells you fuel and supplies, along with a few other oddities that can't be bought anywhere else..

Also, if you go exploring in Khan's Heart, keep an eye out for a Neathbow Item. It's an easy grand, and the only other way to obtain it is...tricky

Jane said:
ah wait that's an aft weapon, I don't think I can use that

You're stuck with just a deck weapon for now. Corvette and Frigate has forward weapons. Merchant Cruise has Aft. And the really big one with the weird name has both.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 04:01:53

I happen to have a cask of 'Shroom Wine. A pirate attacked me and I scavenged it after sinking his battleship.

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 04:03:45

As it happens, Khan's Shadow is one of the places that purchases that. You should sell it next time you're in the area.

Or you could sell it in London and have more space for fuel. Whatevere floats your boat.

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 04:03:58

Wow,

I really like talking about Sunless Sea

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 04:05:49

I'm at Khan's Shadow now, after picking up my rocks from the Salt Lions.

Not sure if I should just head back to London or do yet more exploring. I could buy more fuel (currently I have 7. 7 supplies too but those seem to be a problem less often for me).

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 04:07:25

Ideally, you don't want to do your exploring with the sphinxstone. you want that space for treasure

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 04:08:55

I think you made a typo in that sentence?

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 04:19:17

that I did. it has been fixed.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 04:20:10

where is Clay-Man-Place generally, I have the mirrorbox now

Yarrun XIX · 2016-01-31 04:21:56

Clay-Man-Place can be basically anywhere in the map, except the edges

I usually find it on the east half of the map? which isn't helpful in the least

Salix Babylonika · 2016-01-31 04:25:09

well

this'll be an adventure then

also I bought some wine in london to sell at Khan's Shadow. I figure why not.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 01:12:56

yarrun what the fuck do I do in Fallen London

I picked Persuasive as my specialized stat but now I'm just in London and there's like 2,000 options and I have no idea what to do.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 01:15:23

how important is getting a house

can I just buy whispered hints to pay for one

help

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 01:16:16

I can also buy stockings for four echoes that increase my persuasiveness but also something called "scandal".

what???

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 01:16:31

I'm feeling some EU4-level overwhelmedness right now.

Epitome · 2016-02-01 01:33:35

try to keep your scandal down otherwise you're gonna have to go to church to repent for your uncouth behavior

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 01:35:12

Awesome.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 01:35:52

I think I've kinda figured the generalities out.

I got a room to rent by getting a spy drunk and learning bits of information, which isn't how that works I don't think, but w/e.

Epitome · 2016-02-01 01:40:41

Currency? Who needs that. All you need are secrets and fists (disclaimer: don't try this in real life).

Yarrun XIX · 2016-02-01 01:47:20

Oh, wow, it finally worked!

Okay, the stockings aren't a bad investment, but you'll want to be careful with that. If your scandal gets above 8, you'll skip church and go straight to the tomb-colonies. It's arguably the least bad of the menace places, but it takes the longest to get out of.

Yarrun XIX · 2016-02-01 01:47:37

So once you get to around five or so, take the stockings off and keep them off.

Yarrun XIX · 2016-02-01 01:47:57

Also, what's your name? I'll try and help you out with keeping your menaces down. You too, Epi.

Salix Babylonika · 2016-02-01 01:49:15

planetJane

Fallenverse Games (Fallen London, Sunless Sea, etc.)

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