[OOC] Tavern Tales - If We Must Die, Let The Cosmos Live/General Game Discussion Thread

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• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-07-28 10:06:43 edited 2014-07-28 10:12:44

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Okay so I think this might be a good time to start using variable rolls. Result = [9], so you have some knowledge, but not a lot.

  
  

  It's a sanguine angel. They hail from a parallel universe cluster, known colloquially as the seven-hundred-and-seventy-seven choirs. sanguine are divine messengers, and the message they usually bring is either scouring the earth or that someone is about to be born. Sanguine are creatures of blood and fire, and have unique healing and burning powers.

  
  

  And yes, I do have Transistor on my mind.

  
  

  If Un-Zebadel is too confusing, let me know. I'll stop doing it.
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-07-28 17:12:33

  Oh sorry I've been so inactive these past couple days. Had other stuff going on, IRL. I'm probably going to be pretty busy next week, too, but I'll try to check in when I can. If it doesn't look like I'll be able to make it very often, I'll definitely let y'all know. 
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-07-28 21:20:22

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Take your time, man.
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-07-28 23:40:14

  Thanks. 

  
  

  Would I know anything about the Pao clan from Well Studied? Something like their place in history, notable Monsters they may have killed, clan structure, something like that?
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-07-29 02:18:49

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Yeah I'll tell you some stuff.

  
  

  The Long clan is the ruling family of Diyu. "Long" is the clan name, but is not used in the same way that the commoners do. It's more of a title. 

  
  

  Let's take apart Gu Long and Yan Long's names. The first character denotes their "element", what kind of dragon they are. "Gu" means bone, so he's a bone dragon. "Yan" means flare, so she's fire.

  
  

  The second character is "Long", denoting the Long clan, the ruling family of Diyu. This is the family name, but is more of a title and less of a "proper", commoner name.

  
  

  The third character is "Wang" and "Pao", which denotes what familial line they're in. "Wang" means king, so Gu Long is of the royal family. "Pao" means "cannon", which shows that Yan Long is one of the lesser nobles.

  
  

  Yan Long is still young, just past her own Rambling, so she hasn't done much. She's been assigned a rank of Baroness, and has been assigned to the artillery batteries of Diyu's armies.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-07-29 02:35:05

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  http://taverntalesrpg.com/combat-overhaul-rough-draft/

  
  

  Also, combat is now in the midst of changing. Should we stick with the rules we have or go with the new ones? I think I might like the new ones better.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-07-29 03:06:36

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Not fond of "defy" as a replacement for "resistant". I'm also not sure about switching to variable rolls as the default. But I do like the new combat traits, and the combat maneuvers. 
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-07-29 03:19:17

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Defy isn't a replacement for Resistant. Resistant is still there.
• loliwarmech

  2014-07-29 09:43:36

  I like variable rolls, but am not sure about the other stuff yet.
  
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-07-29 09:59:46

  I'm pretty fond of the mixed results of die rolls, and the way to increase and decrease rolls is neat. I don't think I like the reduction of traits, in general. I mean, Undeath dropped to like six traits, and they're not clearly demarcated between Combat/Exploration/Interaction anymore. It seems like they're all combat traits, though.

  
  

  I'm not sure I wholly want to go over to the new system just yet, since it seems to still be in development, but I'm willing to try some of the new stuff. Like a play test kinda thing.
• stjohnmccloskey

  2014-07-29 10:23:20

  Those are just the combat traits. Only combat is being overhauled!
  
  I think I'm a fan of the rules changes, I haven't seriously looked at the traits yet, but that's the easy part! :) I definitely think there needs to be granular success, otherwise there's no really good feeling about an especially good roll! (I like that feeling).
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-07-29 10:52:56

  Ah, yeah, that's right. Well, even then I lose my combat traits until he rebuilds them. And I still don't really understand why passives were combined with combat traits.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-07-29 19:12:48

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  I think the logic behind the passives was "They're kind of lame on their own."
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-07-30 12:36:32 edited 2014-07-30 12:44:46

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  I wrote down this entire explanation for why Min made a high-stakes mission even more high-stakes than it already was, but the whole thing boils down to Min naturally making things hard on himself when he could easily talk his way out of the situation. I'm not sure why.
• stjohnmccloskey

  2014-07-30 14:14:49

  There are a lot of reasons for the re-vamp. Part of it is that passives felt bland, but also it's not exactly clear whether they were traits or not; they all dealt with combat, so it made the game feel more combat focused to have an extra set of things to choose that are combat only. I wouldn't assume that every trait will be coming back! You may want to hit up the subreddit and ask if there are any you're especially interested in!
• loliwarmech

  2014-07-31 03:05:11

  Yarrun: Taking risks is fun!
  
  I'll need to find a new trait to replace Overload.
  
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-07-31 03:28:43

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Duck got erased as well. That'll need replacing.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-01 08:59:38 edited 2014-08-01 09:12:42

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Some of our towns and cities have this one festival that the locals prepare for all year. Two months, three weeks, even a single day; all that preparation goes into that one space of time. Carnival, Crop Over, Mardi Gras, that sort of thing.

  
  

  The Galactic Games are like that; they prepare for it all year, every year, and every time it passes, they are all a little richer, a little fatter, and very tired. And then they start it all over again.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-01 09:17:00

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Let's hope we don't find one of several ways to wreck it.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-01 11:04:11 edited 2014-08-01 11:30:53

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Spirit Roll to do something slightly outrageous to win over the crowd on my turn.

  
  

  19,12,14,+3
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-01 20:31:33

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  You do exactly what you set out to do.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-01 21:54:44

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  With some bit of creative license, I presume?
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-01 22:56:54

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Well we're going with variable rolls. 16-20 is just "yes", which is a normal success. By contrast, 11-15 is "yes, but", which involves some trouble.

  
  

  So yeah, you get some creative license. Just don't go overboard with it.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-02 21:54:30 edited 2014-08-02 21:55:22

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  The original idea was for Min to do a parody of Vigil Helltide's haughtiness, but I eventually decided that was too frigging complicated. I guess the current version's more of a Finesse roll than a Spirit roll, but that still falls with in the 16-20 range so w/e

  
  

  I like how I didn't even want to give him a ranged weapon at first, and now he's basically a gunslinging minotaur.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-02 22:53:31

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  We wait for one more.
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-08-05 00:01:16

  Alright, so I start moving tomorrow morning meaning I'm probably gonna be pretty inactive this week. Sorry to do this. If Kraken wants to take over Gui until I can return, I'm fine with that, or if we just don't want to explain why Gui isn't doing anything, that's fine too.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-05 04:35:15

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  For the record, every enemy has a weakness. I won't tell you what it is, but I will give hints. And when their weakness is triggered they may do something very drastic.

  
  

  That said, I will be going to Australia in four days for a week and two days. I will see if I can provide updates there, but it is unlikely that I will be able to do so. Just so you know.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-06 01:51:16

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Combat 2.0 is now active.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-09 19:13:21

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  So I can provide updates from here.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-09 20:53:31

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Huzzah. On to the Trial of Justice
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-09 22:44:12

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Anybody else want to dispute that? Want to do something else?
• loliwarmech

  2014-08-10 01:38:38

  No objections here.
  
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-08-12 12:09:58 edited 2014-08-12 12:17:15

  And I think I should be back in business.

  
  

  Trial of Justice sounds good.

  
  

  Oh, since Dispel was removed as an Arcane Combat Trait, I think I'll take Force Armor in its place. Also, the change in Dead Nerves makes it so that Gui has +4 Toughness now, so does that increase his HP as well?
• stjohnmccloskey

  2014-08-12 14:04:19

  Sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry! I thought I'd be able to post more but I wasn't. I had a mini vacation last week but I'm back now. My bad! In future if I dont post I give people permission to play my character! Play by posts can drag enough as it is!
  
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-13 05:50:48

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Phantom: Yep. I'll change your sheet.

  
  

  Post incoming.

  
  
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-08-14 14:14:15

  So I don't really have any abilities that I can use at the moment to determine anything. The best I can do is Detect Magic. So, is there any Magic I can Detect? Aside from like the Pyramid Judges, which I assume are magical. Stuff with the investigation.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-14 18:14:37

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Frankly, I'm not sure if any of my skills are going to be useful either (barring my 'track anything' skill, which I'll be saving for the cat challenge). Should have gotten the interrogate skill, but bygones are bygones and whatnot.

  
  

  Just do what feels natural to the character. Like examining that blood. Gui probably has more experience with blood than anybody else, after all.
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-08-15 14:13:57

  Yeah, I was originally going to check out the corpse or talk to the Monster but since the corpse is fake I don't think Gui would have much use for it. Also, he's pretty liable to completely side with the monster even if he DID commit the crime (which of course is unlikely like he's pretty obviously a red herring)

  
  

  Might do that anyway, though.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-15 15:36:54

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Eh, he might have. If the people running the Trial of Justice trial are genre savvy enough, they'll know that contestants are going to naturally assume the mantis-man's a false suspect, and then make him the true killer just to throw them off.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-15 21:04:03

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  Rumor Mill is useful. Detect Magic, also. For all intents and purposes, even if the scene is fake, every aspect of the murder has been simulated. EVERY ASPECT.
  
  So be creative.
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-08-15 21:05:07 edited 2014-08-15 21:05:51

  Yeah, I considered that too. Anyway, I definitely don't speak Mantis Dude.

  
  

  Kraken, do Besogath's Mantis Dude sounds sound like angry or anything? Or just confused?

  
  

  Also, in that case, I definitely need to know what Magic I Detect (which isn't an action)
• loliwarmech

  2014-08-16 01:21:28

  I'll take Tracking - Vigil to replace the now-defunct Overload.
  
  Fixed the silly mistake in my post, also.
  
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-16 07:44:49 edited 2014-08-16 07:46:33

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  We've got a new way of representing weapons.

  
  

  Besogath sounds confused and nervous.

  
  

  Also, Vigil isn't a combat trait.
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-08-16 14:33:07

  How does the new way of representing weapons affect natural weapons? Seems to simplify stuff and all in all I like it, but Gui uses his claws as his weapons, primarily, which means he's technically unarmed. And since he doesn't have any traits or anything that count his body as a weapon, he's going to start taking decreases in combat, which is kinda lame. 

  
  

  Unless of course we count his claws and his breath attack as weapons, in which case no problem is made. His weapons are just part of his body. 
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-16 16:49:19

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  I'd say the latter. Pick a couple of keywords to represent your claws and breath attack. One for melee or range, and the other whatever you want.
• CaptivePhantom

  2014-08-16 19:48:48

  Claws is going to be melee and rending, and Poison Breath is going to be...disarming? Maybe Ranged too, which is what I had before but was never entirely comfortable with. It originally basically had rending before, but I'm not sure I want both my attacks to have rending. "Staggering" almost seems like a better keyword, but its actual effect is kind of lame, and doesn't matter much when coupled with Ranged.
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-16 20:23:15

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  If you want to make up a keyword, you can do so as well. Even take some from this thread.
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-16 20:25:47 edited 2014-08-16 20:28:22

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Sword and Pistol - Melee/Ranged

  Pistol-Ranged/Accurate

  Sword-Melee/Disarm

  Magic Spear-Melee/Reach

  
  

  I wish I had a weapon that I could justify having shatter. Maybe if I can win that pistol...
• Yarrun XIX

  2014-08-16 21:07:00

  Whores! we want "poems that kill."
  Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
  guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
  and take their weapons leaving them dead

  Rolling Mind to detect and memorize the smoke for tracking purposes. Not to say that Min can track magic, but magic can leave non-magical residue, and he can track that. Unsurprisingly, I'm using the signature trait bonus for this

  
  

  [5,4,18]+1
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-08-17 09:16:23

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  You succeed. You gain advantage when the smoke comes up again.