You can't prove anything

Odradek · 2015-09-13 16:02:16

1. You can't prove a negative truth

2. All truths are either positive or negative

3. Any positive truth is just a double negative truth

Therefore 4. Proving anything is impossible

Tachyon · 2015-09-13 16:12:43

RIP the sciences

c. 6th century BC - 2015-09-13 at 17:02:16 (BST)

Calica · 2015-09-13 16:19:39

Tachyon said:
RIP the sciences

c. 6th century BC - 2015-09-13 at 17:02:16

nah, you don't prove anything in the sciences anyways, you just get enough evidence that the alternatives are as good as falsified

but now math is actually a science apparently :P

Tachyon · 2015-09-13 16:21:00

i see math described as a science sometimes

i suppose it depends on your definition, i realize it's quite different from the physical sciences

Toolsie · 2015-09-13 16:22:30

I can see Maths being a science.

Psychology, on the other hand...

Tachyon · 2015-09-13 16:26:35

i don't see how it's not one

i mean yeah psychology is a broad field, on the one end you have neuropsychology which is clearly biology, on the other you have philosophy of mind, Fodor and Dennett and that

it's still a scientific field in the same sense that all the social sciences are

now if you'd said psychoanalysis you'd have gotten no argument from me, but that's a different matter

Calica · 2015-09-13 16:32:16

Personally, as a mathematician I don't really consider math to be a science because while there are exploratory aspects to the field that at least resemble the sciences (albeit at a much lower budget than, say, anything @Klinotaxis is doing), the things that actually gets published most of the time are proofs, which really only show up in the sciences when they're actually doing a mathematical model.

Spoiler:

Also, I think Tools was making a joke about the quality of output in psychology

Tachyon · 2015-09-13 16:33:46

i figured, i just kinda bristled because psychology is interesting to me

sorry Tools

Odradek · 2015-09-13 16:37:05

Wissenschaft

Salix Babylonika · 2015-09-13 19:05:21

psychoanalysis

that boy needs therapy

PatchAwful · 2015-09-13 20:49:54

Pretty bold statement

Can you prove it?

Klinotaxis · 2015-09-13 21:10:30

Calica said:
Personally, as a mathematician I don't really consider math to be a science because while there are exploratory aspects to the field that at least resemble the sciences (albeit at a much lower budget than, say, anything @Klinotaxis is doing), the things that actually gets published most of the time are proofs, which really only show up in the sciences when they're actually doing a mathematical model.

Spoiler:
Also, I think Tools was making a joke about the quality of output in psychology

look, it's not my fault rats are more expensive to maintain than mathematicians. you need nutrients other than caffeine

Yarrun XIX · 2015-09-13 21:20:17

PatchAwful said:
Pretty bold statement

Can you prove it?

as long as you accept that he's a psychosomatic

Odradek · 2015-09-13 21:38:39

SUBSIDIZED HOBBYISM

Obā-san · 2015-09-13 21:44:33

Odradek said:
SUBSIDIZED HOBBYISM

as my grandpa always said: if you make your work your hobby, every day is a vacation

apparently he designed the machine that puts scotch tape on the rolls

Calica · 2015-09-13 21:47:21

Odradek said:
SUBSIDIZED HOBBYISM

the catch is that i have to teach calculus to future engineers and worse, future doctors

Obā-san · 2015-09-13 22:03:13

my mom paid for part of college teaching statistics to future social workers

Odradek · 2015-09-13 22:52:57

naney said:

Odradek said:
SUBSIDIZED HOBBYISM
as my grandpa always said: if you make your work your hobby, every day is a vacation

apparently he designed the machine that puts scotch tape on the rolls

It means insight wankers will be obsessively angry at you

Imipolex G · 2015-09-13 22:57:51

Obā-san · 2015-09-13 22:58:54

what means that?

You can't prove anything

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