Gathering some Magics

millercross · 2012-01-20 18:19:11

Basically, Lorwyn/Shadowmoor is a plane that has two sides. The day side, which is pretty much when everything about fairy tales happens and Shadowmoor, which is...the night to Lorwyn's day, by which I mean, the bad stuff.

For further reference...

Justice4243 · 2012-01-20 18:19:35

It's rather close to "The Dark Crystal: Magic the Gathering".

Idler · 2012-01-20 18:20:27

Inane: Yeah, for two sets the plane was Lorwyn an idyllic place based mostly on the nice, fluffy fairy tales of the British Isles. Then the Great Aurora happened and the plane turned into Shadowmoor, a hellhole where (almost) all of the beings from Lorwyn have turned vicious, based more on the Brothers Grimm aspect of fairy tales.

Viani · 2012-01-20 18:25:35

What about Eventide?

Gelzo · 2012-01-20 18:26:15

The exception are the elves, who are Nazis on Lorwyn and good guys on Shadowmoor.

Idler · 2012-01-20 18:26:38

Eventide is the second set in Shadowmoor mini-block; it's still set on Shadowmoor, although at the end I believe balance is achieved between the two sides of the plane.

Gelzo: They're not that nice even on Shadowmoor, since they still exile anyone who's too ugly for them, it's just that everything else is worse. And the faeries are the same on both, that is, douches.

millercross · 2012-01-20 18:28:49

>Implying Elves aren't always douchebags

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:08:29

So I have started building a deck.

It has two cards in it, and they are both this.

FUCKING PROGRESS

Viani · 2012-01-20 19:10:25

Superglobe, you build your deck and I shall build mine. The avid players shall watch us as we fill our decks with cards we like and see who wins.

I like white, and wanted to build a white deck.

Because I have no idea about anything concerning the MTG metagame besides JaceTMC, and Godsire + Progenitus raping the shit out of every single deck I have ever made.

Apparently the only way to kill Progenitus is by cloning him (without directly targeting him since he would be protected from that) and making the player sacrifice him.

Idler · 2012-01-20 19:10:39

Skinrender is pretty cool, he doesn't have a face which is always a sure sign of awesomeness.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:12:03

well um.

Lockonlockon is helping me build a black/blue deck.

So I may be at an advantage, if by just a bit, Tnoph.

Idler · 2012-01-20 19:13:54

Ah, the colours of the House Dimir.

Usually I would advise a new player to start out with one of the Duel Decks, but you seem a bit past that now.

Justice4243 · 2012-01-20 19:14:57

@Tnoph

I suggest looking into white winnie if you want to go white.

It's a pretty good way to start.

Viani · 2012-01-20 19:17:46

When something has protection from white and black, does it include your own cards?

Justice4243 · 2012-01-20 19:19:19

Yes

Viani · 2012-01-20 19:20:03

Is it optional, like you CAN be affected by your own cards, or just a overall block?

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:20:14

this card's apparent lack of a color confuses me. Is it black? The background's black.

Viani · 2012-01-20 19:20:49

I think it means any color can be used to cast it. Like 4 blue, 2 red/2 green, etc.

Idler · 2012-01-20 19:20:53

Globe: It's colourless, meaning you can play it with mana of any colour.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:21:19

cool beans.

Justice4243 · 2012-01-20 19:21:44

"Is it optional, like you CAN be affected by your own cards, or just a overall block?"

Overall, you can't even target your own card with a black or white spell or enchantment.

Gelzo · 2012-01-20 19:22:09

It's colorless. A card's color depends on its cost unless it has a color indicator.

Idler · 2012-01-20 19:23:31

Protection means three things, a creature with protection:

1. Cannot be targeted by things it has protection from.
2. Cannot be damaged by things it has protection from.
3. Cannot be blocked by things it has protection from.

Obā-san · 2012-01-20 19:24:21

Y'know, the fact that your opponent only has 20 life sees to make a burn deck a good option. What colors work best for that?

Haven · 2012-01-20 19:24:44

There's also "can't have things it has protection from attached to it", so if you give something protection from artifacts, any equipment on it falls off, but those three are the important ones.

^ Red. It's arguably red's defining feature, even.

PlutoniumFist · 2012-01-20 19:25:01

Skinrender looks awesome.

*probably won't ever come back*

Idler · 2012-01-20 19:25:44

Red is best for burn, but usually a burn deck actually wants to be burning their opponent's creatures, not their opponent, so their own creatures can get through.

That said, there are decks that rely on burning the player, such as the deck that copies Sorin's Vengeance with Chandra, the Firebrand for an instant kill.

millercross · 2012-01-20 19:25:44

If you're going to use Skinrender, then what you want is a proliferate deck. I suggest:

*Tezzeret's Gambit

*Contagion Clasp

*Contagion Engine

*Bounce cards (I really dig Capsize, for example)

*Graveyard recursion (So that when your Skinrender dies, you can bring him back, bigger and meaner than ever)

*Tezzeret, Agent of Testicles, if you're going to make an artifact deck.

Haven · 2012-01-20 19:26:45

Skinrender works pretty well on its own, since you usually use it to just kill something outright. Like a Flametongue Kavu that spits acid.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:27:41

*takes notes*

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:28:55

({(u/p)} can be paid with either {U} or 2 life.)

uhhhhhhh

millercross · 2012-01-20 19:29:09

Haven: Well, yeah. But there's no point whatsoever in using a card just once, is there? ;)

^Phrexian mana's useful if you're in a pinch and you don't have access to all of your lands.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:30:52

I...I don't know what Phrexian mana is.

Haven · 2012-01-20 19:30:59

Once is usually enough outside ponyDH. It's usually a two-for-one on its own anyway, since you kill one of their dudes with it and then they have to waste a Bolt or another dude to get rid of it.

Gelzo · 2012-01-20 19:31:01

The letters W, U, B, R, and G stand for the five colors. U is blue.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:32:22

U is blue.

LOGICAL!

I guess it does make sense, though.

millercross · 2012-01-20 19:35:09

Blue and Black start with the same letter, so to make the distinction, we use U instead of B to refer to Blue. Because it's better than L and it's pretty much the predominant sound of the word, anyway, if that makes sense.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:36:14

This is true.

Hence why I said I guess it does make sense. I was about to suggest they just use "Bl", but then it occured to me that "black" starts with Bl too.

GODDAM WORDS

Haven · 2012-01-20 19:38:45

I...I don't know what Phrexian mana is.

That just means you can pay either two life or that color. So if you have something that costs 3 and a green phyrexian mana, you can cast it by paying three mana of any color and one green, or you can pay three of any color and then lose two life.

This is helpful because it lets you cast it earlier, and even lets you cast it if you don't have any of that kind of mana at all. (Like if you're playing green, you usually wouldn't have a spell that directly kills your opponent's creatures, but you can cast Dismember.)

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:39:51

Ah. That is very helpful.

Thank you, Fsjalhaven.

millercross · 2012-01-20 19:41:01

oh, also

I...I don't know what Phyrexian mana is.

It's a mechanic that allows you to use your life to pay for a card's mana cost. So, for example, you wanna play this guy

And you only have three untapped lands because it's turn three. You can tap those three lands, take two life and cast it. Of course, there's no reason to cast it at the beginning of the game unless your opponent or you have a very good artifact and you need one on your side/one more.

millercross · 2012-01-20 19:41:33

HAVEN COME HERE SO I CAN MURDER YOU, YOU NINJA

Viani · 2012-01-20 19:42:04

....you can put Dismember in almost every deck...

Obā-san · 2012-01-20 19:42:39

^I FUCKING LOVE DISMEMBER. The art, the effect, the flavour text and I actually own it.

Haven · 2012-01-20 19:44:25

HAVEN COME HERE SO I CAN MURDER YOU, YOU NINJA

Surely you mean "you samurai".

millercross · 2012-01-20 19:45:50

Dismember is an Standard mainstay mostly because any deck can play it and it can kill indestructible creatures, provided they don't have more than 5 toughness. And even then, nothing can stop you from casting it again, although paying 8 life for destroying one creature is a ridiculous move.

^Haven! Roof! Now! And bring That Which Was Taken with you.

Salix Babylonika · 2012-01-20 19:46:52

*Graveyard recursion (So that when your Skinrender dies, you can bring him back, bigger and meaner than ever)

I just looked this card up on Cockatrice and I can not find it.

also does anyone know any good nonbasic black and/or blue lands?

Idler · 2012-01-20 19:48:21

It's not a card, it's a group of cards that recur things from graveyards, eg. Unburial Rites.

Haven · 2012-01-20 19:51:03

Haven! Roof! Now! And bring That Which Was Taken with you

millercross · 2012-01-20 19:52:19

also does anyone know any good nonbasic black and/or blue lands?

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