Media with which you have a love-hate relationship

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• Tanya

  2014-02-15 03:59:59

  Pizza Dog

  I remember virtually very little about that series other than 3 dogs and they were basically the dog version of macaulay culkin from Home Alone.
  
  Also didn't it take place on a farm?
  
• Anonus

  2014-02-15 04:00:22

  I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat

  Yeah.
• Tachyon

  2014-02-15 04:27:03

  ^{i will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch}
  

  some of Katy Perry's songs, kinda
  
  in that i kinda like the music but i dislike myself for it
  
• Imipolex G

  2014-02-15 04:30:05

  Touch the cow. Do it now.
  

  was Finnegans Wake worth reading? Sometimes I think so, sometimes not.
  
  As mentioned elsewhere tonight, the NES Metroid has its strong points but is kind of a chore to play.
  
• Tre

  2014-02-15 04:41:31 edited 2014-02-15 04:41:49

  
  

  re: Katy Perry: that was me with Ke$ha before Animal came out

  
  

  but then I listened to the rest and was like "whoa"

  
  

  anyway, I'm iffy about Kill la Kill right now because I feel like it's the end product of the male idea of female empowerment? I don't think I'm phrasing it very well but it sort of seems like it's objectifying Ryuko and Satsuki by making their Kamui hella skimpy, even if the uniforms are their sources of superhuman strength. I don't think I hate the show for that but it just strikes me as off-putting for those who like the concept but aren't necessarily there for the fanservice. (and unrelatedly, I'm still not a fan of how Senketsu was introduced, but I'd be hard-pressed to find another solution to that, unfortunately)

  
  

  again, just clarifying: I don't hate the show at all, I just feel like there's some issues with its execution that make things kind of awkward from what I've seen. I'm willing to bet that it does improve with time, though, as I've been told.
• Tachyon

  2014-02-15 04:45:54

  ^{i will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch}
  

  i can't hate KLK tbh
  
  i can understand other people being put off by the content and i wouldn't blame them for it, and i feel kinda iffy about recommending it to other people for that reason, but it's still glorious
  
• Salix Babylonika

  2014-02-15 04:47:38

  https://i.imgur.com/IoGc2jA.jpg

  Yeah it drops the moralizing angle about a half dozen episodes in and then proceeds to really take off.
  
  There is still a fair bit of crude humor, but it doesn't try to get on its high horse and I think it's more enjoyable because of that.
  
• Tre

  2014-02-15 04:51:00

  
  

  yeah, as a big TTGL fan I'd literally have to be out of my mind to outright hate KLK

  
  

  I have my issues with it, but I probably will get around to watching the rest
• Salix Babylonika

  2014-02-15 04:53:35

  https://i.imgur.com/IoGc2jA.jpg

  YES good
  
  you should do it before episode 19 comes out in a few days.
  
• Section42L

  2014-02-15 10:47:34

  We can do anything if we do it together.

  It occurs to me that I need to watch episode 18.

  
  

  I will most likely watch it with dear tonight.
• Previous Calica

  2014-02-15 12:07:37

  (flower path)

  The skimpy outfits and such put me off but it was the scene where she got it in the first episode which was basically modeled after a rape scene that turned me off from watching more than one episode of the show.
• Tachyon

  2014-02-15 12:22:59

  ^{i will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch}
  

  that scene... i wish i could say people were reading too much into it, but i don't think they are
  
  it is fairly short, and doesn't happen again
  
• One-Winged Eagle

  2014-02-15 19:43:12 edited 2014-02-15 19:52:01

  Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.

  I feel like Kill la Kill is a sort of examination about fanservice.

  
  

  On one hand, "hey look at these ladies who wear outrageously ridiculous outfits". But for most of that, there's no element of voyeurism to it, because the characters are usually in control and don't give a fuck. On the scale of say, Dead or Alive: Beach Volleyball where you're looking at ladies in a context where you shouldn't be there, and say Bayonetta where she is the exhibitionist sexual predator who uses her sex as a weapon, daring her enemies to touch her, I'd say that the Kamui are firmly in-between.

  
  

  And on the other "hey look we're just going to give you scene after scene of a guy undressing sensuously for no reason whatsoever". And while I really like those scenes because they make me uncomfortable, I feel like there should be more of them. 

  
  

  Still on a yet different hand "hey look this lady gets naked or near-naked but because it's drawn in a minimalist cartoony style nobody is going to give a shit", such as with Mako, at times.

  
  

  Or consider "hey look we're going to do outrageous clothing damage them fabrics will just explode", but the shot never lingers over it for people to see and be aroused, and the ripping of the clothes happens in an instant.

  
  

  Even, "hey look we're going to have immense amounts of bloodshed but there will be no actual wounds" because gore is fanservice too.

  
  

  "hey look we're going to have a very fanservice-laden scene between two characters", regarding the scene with Satsuki and Ragyo in the bath, but the scene is disturbing and unsettling, which helps to frame their relationship.

  
  

  Like I can look at most of these choices and come up with some kind of logic behind them. I can't do that for most other fanservice shows that I've seen.
• Obā-san

  2014-02-15 19:50:56

  
  

  you might wanna spoiler some of that

  
  

  But yes

  
  

  also the "hey look we're just going to give you scene after scene of a guy undressing sensuously for no reason whatsoever" scenes are the best.