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  • I played the first of the two Unreal Tournament games for the original Xbox.

    It was fun, but I was a kid at the time and basically never won.
  • The Pitt DLC for Fallout 3 was not worth 3.74. 

    Why am I surprised? Fallout 3 DLC naturally predates Fallout NV DLC, and Dead Money was terrible. 

    Still, I'm afloat with ideas of how much better it could be, which is enjoyable. 
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    Sex_Grips said:

    Hah, I went online in 2k4 DM recently and if there's one thing people did obsessively, it was the Shock Combo.

    As a Quaker, I mostly stuck with the Rocket Launcher. Flak's one of my favourite weapons but these guys were really outmanuevering me. There's nothing those dodges can do that splash damage can't deal with...

    I probably spend more time on Quake 3 myself, although mostly just defrag. And I was mostly about the rail gun, rocket launcher being my 2nd pick when playing normal match
  • Hah, there's, like, five different discussions about how wonky the Pitt DLC was in the Headscratchers section for Fallout 3. 

    Honestly, I don't blame them.
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    The Pitt DLC for Fallout 3 was not worth 3.74. 


    Why am I surprised? Fallout 3 DLC naturally predates Fallout NV DLC, and Dead Money was terrible. 

    Still, I'm afloat with ideas of how much better it could be, which is enjoyable. 
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    Okay, can we agree that it's the worst New Vegas DLC, with the possible exception of Honest Hearts? I'll haggle up to that point, but no further.
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    Okay, can we agree that it's the worst New Vegas DLC, with the possible exception of Honest Hearts? I'll haggle up to that point, but no further.
    Only if you admit Point Lookout is great
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    Pyridrym said:



    I probably spend more time on Quake 3 myself, although mostly just defrag. And I was mostly about the rail gun, rocket launcher being my 2nd pick when playing normal match

    mm, I only have Quake Live...screwing around in defrag sounds like fun, though.

    As far as movement-focused stuff goes, Xonotic's MinstaHook mode is amazing but I think it has even less players now than it used to. :/ Mad that Tribes Ascend got abandoned too...
  • Panurge said:

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    Okay, can we agree that it's the worst New Vegas DLC, with the possible exception of Honest Hearts? I'll haggle up to that point, but no further.
    Only if you admit Point Lookout is great
    I haven't tried it yet, and I'd rather not spend another 3.70 on Fallout DLC, not with the Holiday Sale going on. Gotta save money for the big sales, you know? I have read a bit about it, and the conceit sounds interesting.

    What do you like about Dead Money, if you don't mind? I know it had things that I liked about it, despite it feeling clumsy in terms of overall storyline and programming (as opposed to Honest Hearts, where everything was smooth yet often bland)
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    Panurge said:

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    Okay, can we agree that it's the worst New Vegas DLC, with the possible exception of Honest Hearts? I'll haggle up to that point, but no further.
    Only if you admit Point Lookout is great
    I haven't tried it yet, and I'd rather not spend another 3.70 on Fallout DLC, not with the Holiday Sale going on. Gotta save money for the big sales, you know? I have read a bit about it, and the conceit sounds interesting.

    What do you like about Dead Money, if you don't mind? I know it had things that I liked about it, despite it feeling clumsy in terms of overall storyline and programming (as opposed to Honest Hearts, where everything was smooth yet often bland)
    It's huge, atmospheric, disempowering and Chris Avellone is writing.
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    Okay, can we agree that it's the worst New Vegas DLC, with the possible exception of Honest Hearts? I'll haggle up to that point, but no further.
    If we can make it the definite exception of Honest Hearts, I will agree with you.

    But I will agree The Pitt was the worst of the Fallout 3 DLC.
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  • I'll give you atmospheric and disempowering. I think its size went against it; half the time, I couldn't figure out where in blazes I was supposed to go, and that was with the compass helping. 

    I'd also argue that it being disempowering wasn't the best thing. At the beginning, yes, very effective, but I would have liked more power near the end. New Vegas is very much a game of conquering, either for yourself or for whatever greater power you've allied yourself with. And that bleeds into Big MT and Lonesome Road. Not with Dead Money. You're not given a good amount of time to enjoy your achievements after you achieve them, unless you waffle around a significant bit in the Villa. It's unsatisfying and feels a bit rushed, is what I'm saying.

    The overall plot was, arguably, the most in-depth bit of writing done in the Fallout DLCs. Very well-put together, even if it doesn't fit in particularly well with Lonesome Road/Big MT super-arc, and each character is a unique experience to interact with. So, go Chris Avellone? But in terms of programming, it was sloppy. Glitches in various places. Last interaction with Domino based on stuff that you wouldn't expect it to be based on. No real endgame after dealing with Elijah. There's only so much that you can do with a good story without the right programming. See Syberia.
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    Bee said:

    Trails in the Sky is 50% off for the next 12 hours.

    You all should get this game. Best jRPG I've played in a long time.
  • Honest Hearts, in retrospect, has a lot of the same problems as the Pitt. The idea of siding between two factions in a grey-vs-grey aspect. You have to be careful with that to prevent fatiguing the player.

    Still, it was a noticeable improvement. Both sides have a clear shot at stating their case before the player is forced to make a choice, there's no faux-moral presentation in the beginning, both case-makers are presented as full-fledged characters instead of just one, the choices have more depth than "kill the MacGuffin" vs "save the MacGuffin" and the choice to just flip the bird at both parties, scavenge what you like and go home. Though I will say that no weapon in Honest Hearts compares to the chainsaw-style awesomeness that is the Auto-Axe
  • Things that would happen if I was allowed to shape the Pitt after sparing the Baby

    * Bring in all the scientists I know from the Wasteland to help out the cure development. From Pinkerton to whoever's left of Project Purity to that schmuck Lesko. Additionally, given that my character's has Int 8 and stupid-high skills in Medicine and Science, I'd help out personally
    * Get automated workers to help with both the manufacturing and the guarding process. RobCo should have more than enough parts, and I'm sure the Mechanist would love to do some work that doesn't threaten his hometown.
    * Get the workers proper clothes (leather straps? really? slavery or not, that is terrible work attire), filtration helmets to help against the disease, food that isn't irradiated human flesh, etc. Between Crow and Doc Hoff, should be enough supplies for sale. Since they won't need as many bullets with the robots helping out, the Pitt can use those bullets to trade. 
    * More methods to allow the slaves to not be slaves. The arena can stay, if it must, but also allow freedom as an incentive to any skilled slave that can help with the transition process. Marco could definitely help with the automation process.
    * Slowly phase out the use of raiders as Pitt Masters. Would be easy as making the rules more stringent and inflicting strict punishments on anybody who violates those rules while importing people with better temperament and equal skill with a weapon.
    *Threaten to bring in the Brotherhood Outcasts if anybody starts making trouble. Knowing them, they'll probably just re-scourge the place and dismantle the mill for the good of the Brotherhood. Be sure to tell that to everyone in the Pitt. 

    Honestly, the ideas just keep coming. 
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    I bought Oblivion.

    Does anyone have any tips for when I get around to playing it?
  • The lesson here is that you can't put the player in charge of the fate of an entire burgeoning civilization without allowing them to use their options.
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    Anyone here want They Breathe on Steam? It's 79 cents right now and I want to continue evangelizing for it.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    TitS
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    Chromehounds does look like fun, but alas, I have not played it.
  • Panurge said:

    Anyone here want They Breathe on Steam? It's 79 cents right now and I want to continue evangelizing for it.

    what is it?
  • That tells me nothing, Yarrun.

    I have described both Dear Esther and Ninja Cop as "works of art", and I'm just one person.
  • Panurge said:

    I bought Oblivion.


    Does anyone have any tips for when I get around to playing it?
    Never sleep ever. You can't level up unless you sleep, and leveling is based on your class skills. Monster difficulty is based around your level, not your combat skills. Unless your class is built around your combat skills, leveling up will kill you, so never sleep ever, the end.

    I mean, you have to sleep eventually or you'll be stuck with sucky weapons forever, but plan ahead
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    Shogun 2 actually doesn't work, it still crashes by running out of vram. At least I have a better wine version, I guess.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Big MT is the worst because I can't even fucking play the game anymore.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I didn't even get any mods. At all. One day I decide to do Old World Blues and I get a crash every fifteen minutes. As opposed to the crash every four or five hours.
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    It's just a shoutout to the first two Fallout games.
  • Moving GG discussion over here.

    To repost my last point


    I can't find the collection I saw, but here's a related screencap of several of the same people defending the concept of child pornography.
    Now to be totally fair! The guy they're responding to is also a GamerGater (or more likely, was), but I think the immediate chain response he got from multiple people indicates where the priorities lie here.
  • yeah, shouldn't continue there and overwhelm real problems like that, I was feeling bad.

    I remember the time TVT had discussions like that.  I'm glad we finally got permission to ban them and the users that liked to have them.
  • Note that he's been downvoted 18 times (possibly 19, some subreddits automatically upvote a comment once).
  • They sound like the kind of people who want to argue about free software licenses.

    That intellectual amorality disgusts me.  If any of them are that, rather than just wanting to find kiddie-porn.
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    Morven said:

    Tachyon: I've gotten into arguments about that with them: Why, when there's been so much obvious corruption in games journalism, why is Zoe Quinn the one you go after?  


    It leaves me to conclude that the "corruption" the GGers mostly hate is the influence of what they consider "outsiders", not the inside-gaming corruption of mega-corporations buying positive reviews etc.

    And that's a problem. Because the people they consider 'outsiders' are not people who don't like video games, they include people who like video games but aren't willing to put up with harrassment and don't find the whole Anonymous thing liberating

    just saying that you think women are objectified too often in video games brands you an 'outsider'
  • re, Miko's last post and actual problems in gaming journalism:

    Mostly I find that the biggest problem game reviewers (and reviewers of media in general) have is a total inability to admit their own biases. I kind of suspect this is a relic of literary criticism where what is being reviewed is always treated as high art and if it's bad it's objectively bad and bringing the artform down and yadda yadda yadda.

    Some sites review most things relatively objectively but blast other stuff for no obvious reason. RockPaperShotgun hates FPS games, which is fine, but if literally everyone on the staff hates them (and that does seem to be the case) why cover them at all?
    They sound like the kind of people who want to argue about free software licenses.

    That intellectual amorality disgusts me.  If any of them are that, rather than just wanting to find kiddie-porn.
    The kind of free speech fetishism that the whole thing is based on disgusts me. Free speech is a right, sure, but just because you can do something does not mean you should do something. 

  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I understand the philosophy that "if it isn't illegal, it's allowed here." Believing in free speech also means allowing speech to exist that you find unpalatable. I believe in free speech.
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    Can i just say, this isn't even really about games, but the cultural obsession with free speech to the detriment of all else is something i see expressed a lot on the internet, and it bugs me no end.  Communication is not an objective good.  Some statements are bad statements.

    i kind of resent that literary criticism is being blamed for shitty game reviews but maybe i'm missing where you're coming from with that.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    It has to be more than sexually suggestive to be porn.
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    Some things that are legal to express can nevertheless cause harm to others, if expressed in the wrong place or at the wrong time or to the wrong people.
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Tachyon said:

    Communication is not an objective good.

    Some statements are bad statements.

    1) Yes it is and 2) that is true, but do you really want a world where statements considered "bad" are erased? Do you reeeaaaaaaaalllly want that? What if society decides that your basic rights are "bad" things?
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    True, but for the same reason most people find stuff like Toddlers and Tiaras gross, most people wouldn't want to keep pictures like those around even if they're not prima facie illegal.
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    Miko said:

    Tachyon said:

    Communication is not an objective good.

    Some statements are bad statements.

    1) Yes it is and 2) that is true, but do you really want a world where statements considered "bad" are erased? Do you reeeaaaaaaaalllly want that? What if society decides that your basic rights are "bad" things?
    Then it's a bad society and i'm against it!

    Certainly, i want a world where we have the right to express disapproval of bad statements.
  • Can i just say, this isn't even really about games, but the cultural obsession with free speech to the detriment of all else is something i see expressed a lot on the internet, and it bugs me no end.  Communication is not an objective good.  Some statements are bad statements.
    Free speech fetishism is taken to a ridiculous degree in this country, and I feel that the reason it bleeds over to the internet a lot is because a lot of websites are based in the US and primarily used by Americans.

    Should idiotic statements be censored? Maybe not, but they should certainly be condemned, I'd think.

    i kind of resent that literary criticism is being blamed for shitty game reviews but maybe i'm missing where you're coming from with that.
    I don't really know enough about literary criticism to comment on it as a whole, but the mindset I'm referring to does at least seem to come from bad book reviewing (which I suppose is not quite the same as literary criticism). In any case, it's hardly unique to it, so no, I'm not blaming it for anything.
    Miko said:

    It has to be more than sexually suggestive to be porn.

    That largely depends on where you live.

    Reddit is not a public forum, it is owned by a company and has rules. Most websites are and do.

    It does not make sense to complain about freedom of speech in a place where it doesn't apply.
  • Miko said:

    Tachyon said:

    Communication is not an objective good.

    Some statements are bad statements.

    1) Yes it is and 2) that is true, but do you really want a world where statements considered "bad" are erased? Do you reeeaaaaaaaalllly want that? What if society decides that your basic rights are "bad" things?
    That's not what we're talking about though, we're talking about a bunch of people looking at kids in thongs. 

    Reducing it to that kind of extremely vague hypothetical doesn't make any sense.
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