Obama violating the witchy wiggity what now?
So I heard Obama violated the constitution, or is trying to.
how? in layman's terms, since I am one who as literally 0% knowledge regarding the government and politics related news.
Please don't be mad at me for not knowing this yet, I live under a rock.
how? in layman's terms, since I am one who as literally 0% knowledge regarding the government and politics related news.
Please don't be mad at me for not knowing this yet, I live under a rock.
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Well you see, first he rolled it up, and then he had sex with it.
Thus, did Obama violate the Constitution.
real answer: he probably didn't and it's likely someone trying to stir things up. But that's par for the course anymore.
I dunt geddit.
I assume someone has recently accused Obama of breaching the Constitution.
Viani wants to know why.
I don't know why myself, so I gave a smartass answer.
The Supreme Court is deciding the case now. They should announce their decision this summer, and it's looking like they're gonna strike the law down (or at least the mandate).
That's what this is about?
Some people will stop at nothing to make everything as inconvenient as possible, let me tell you.
I guess I shouldn't say anything though. I don't know the details of the situation.
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i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
Why force people to buy insurance when the State can run it for less?
Edit: That sounded more serious and sincere in my head
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
Also, this reminds me...whomever came up with "Obamacare" should be dragged into the street and shot...in front of their family so their kids understand the cost of coming up with obnoxious labels for things.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
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and my daddy is aaaaaaaaalways right cuz he's the mayor
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Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Definition of POLITICIAN
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
to buy health insurance, it could compel them to buy almost anything ...
A majority of the court reasoned that the individual mandate penalty, to
be collected by the Internal Revenue Service starting in 2015, is a tax
and is not unconstitutional."
So what's the safeguard against a Brave New World economy, where the government can compel people to buy any product industrialists and social engineers want, levying heavy taxes on those who opt out?
I'd feel a whole lot safer with socialized health care...
And I don't think saying Obamacare is that bad, it's the Democrats fault for naming the thing "The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act"
If you can't control the naming process, or even come up with a name that acronyms well, you'll get what you can take.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
^ "Eh, that's sort of 'slippery slope' reasoning there"
Please don't. Calling a question about negative logical consequences the "slippery slope fallacy" is a piece of Wikipedia-enabled sophistry.
In fact, thanks to the parts of the law ahtat have gone into effect, I have gotten new glasses, and dental care!!!
(*That was a while back, but I'm mentioning it now*)
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
"No law in
that country must exceed in words the number of letters in their
alphabet, which consists only of two and twenty. But indeed few of them
extend even to that length. They are expressed in the most plain and
simple terms, wherein those people are not mercurial enough to discover
above one interpretation: and to write a comment upon any law, is a
capital crime." -- Gulliver's Travels II.7.7
^ The state doesn't like having the church as a competitor.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
I think the state trying to eliminate the church is a more relevant issue. The Enlightenment has cast the long shadow of the idea that it's an outrage for people's loyalties to be divided between the City of Man and the City of God (see, e.g. Gibbon on how the Roman state religion was better than Christianity). Even worse, these secularists often think atheism would be even better than paganism.
This is precisely why so many don't want to have them.
goes into effect (because some of it happens later than other parts of
it):
Already in effect:
It allows the Food and Drug Administration to approve more generic
drugs (making for more competition in the market to drive down prices)
It increases the rebates on drugs people get through Medicare (so drugs cost less)
It establishes a non-profit group, that the government doesn't
directly control, [1] PCORI, to study different kinds of treatments to
see what works better and is the best use of money.
It makes chain restaurants like McDonalds display how many calories
are in all of their foods, so people can have an easier time making
choices to eat healthy.
It makes a "high-risk pool" for people with pre-existing conditions.
Basically, this is a way to slowly ease into getting rid of
"pre-existing conditions" altogether. For now, people who already have
health issues that would be considered "pre-existing conditions" can
still get insurance, but at different rates than people without them.
It renews some old policies, and calls for the appointment of various positions.
It creates a new 10% tax on indoor tanning booths.
It says that health insurance companies can no longer tell customers
that they won't get any more coverage because they have hit a "lifetime
limit". Basically, if someone has paid for health insurance, that
company can't tell that person that he's used that insurance too much
throughout his life so they won't cover him any more. They can't do this
for lifetime spending, and they're limited in how much they can do this
for yearly spending.
Kids can continue to be covered by their parents' health insurance until they're 26.
No more "pre-existing conditions" for kids under the age of 19.
Insurers have less ability to change the amount customers have to pay for their plans.
People in a "Medicare Gap" get a rebate to make up for the extra money they would otherwise have to spend.
Insurers can't just drop customers once they get sick.
Insurers have to tell customers what they're spending money on.
(Instead of just "administrative fee", they have to be more specific).
Insurers need to have an appeals process for when they turn down a
claim, so customers have some manner of recourse other than a lawsuit
when they're turned down.
New ways to stop fraud are created.
Medicare extends to smaller hospitals.
Medicare patients with chronic illnesses must be monitored more thoroughly.
Reduces the costs for some companies that handle benefits for the elderly.
A new website is made to give people insurance and health information.http://www.healthcare.gov/
A credit program is made that will make it easier for business to invest in new ways to treat illness.
A limit is placed on just how much of a percentage of the money an
insurer makes can be profit, to make sure they're not price-gouging
customers.
A limit is placed on what type of insurance accounts can be used to
pay for over-the-counter drugs without a prescription. Basically, your
insurer isn't paying for the Aspirin you bought for that hangover.
Employers need to list the benefits they provided to employees on their tax forms.
8/1/2012
Any health plans sold after this date must provide preventative care
(mammograms, colonoscopies, etc.) without requiring any sort of co-pay
or charge.
1/1/2013
If you make over $200,000 a year, your taxes go up a tiny bit (0.9%).
Edit: To address those who take issue with the word "tiny", a change of
0.9% is relatively tiny. Any look at how taxes have fluctuated over the
years will reveal that a change of less than one percent is miniscule,
especially when we're talking about people in the top 5% of earners.
1/1/2014
This is when a lot of the really big changes happen.
No more "pre-existing conditions". At all. People will be charged the same regardless of their medical history.
If you can afford insurance but do not get it, you will be charged a
fee. This is the "mandate" that people are talking about. Basically,
it's a trade-off for the "pre-existing conditions" bit, saying that
since insurers now have to cover you regardless of what you have, you
can't just wait to buy insurance until you get sick. Otherwise no one
would buy insurance until they needed it. You can opt not to get
insurance, but you'll have to pay the fee instead, unless of course
you're not buying insurance because you just can't afford it.
Insurers now can't do annual spending caps. Their customers can get
as much health care in a given year as they need.
Make it so more poor people can get Medicaid by making the low-income cut-off higher.
Small businesses get some tax credits for two years.
Businesses with over 50 employees must offer health insurance to full-time employees, or pay a penalty.
Limits how high of an annual deductible insurers can charge customers.
Cut some Medicare spending
Place a $2500 limit on tax-free spending on FSAs (accounts for
medical spending).
Establish health insurance exchanges and rebates for the lower and
middle-class, basically making it so they have an easier time getting
affordable medical coverage.
Congress and Congressional staff will only be offered the same
insurance offered to people in the insurance exchanges, rather than
Federal Insurance.
A new tax on pharmaceutical companies.
A new tax on the purchase of medical devices.
A new tax on insurance companies based on their market share.
Basically, the more of the market they control, the more they'll get
taxed.
The amount you can deduct from your taxes for medical expenses increases.
1/1/2015
Doctors' pay will be determined by the quality of their care, not how
many people they treat.
1/1/2017
If any state can come up with their own plan, one which gives
citizens the same level of care at the same price as the PPACA, they can
ask the Secretary of Health and Human Resources for permission to do
their plan instead of the PPACA. Vermont, for
example, has expressed a desire to just go straight to single-payer (in
simple terms, everyone is covered, and medical expenses are paid by
taxpayers).
2018
All health care plans must now cover preventative care (not just the new ones).
A new tax on "Cadillac" health care plans (more expensive plans for rich people who want fancier coverage).
2020
The elimination of the "Medicare gap"
Aaaaand that's it right there.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
I honestly do not see the general problem with all of this.
That has not stopped my Ron Paul supporter facebook friends from freaking out, but...yeah.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
DO YOU KNOW WHAT A CANCER IS?!
A CANCER IS A SMALL PART OF A PERSON THAT EATS AWAY AT THEIR VERY okay I'm trying to make a Mondo Medicals reference here and failing. So fuck me, I guess.