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  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    That logic only holds true if we assume the population of Tumblr is a representative sample of the population as a whole.
  • edited 2013-08-14 20:57:03
    Which I should've made clear.

    But in my experience, a lot of teenagers I know- I daresay most- vehemently maintain they'll never have kids.
  • edited 2013-08-14 21:08:38
    (flower path)
    You know, @Kexruct, most people aren't on tumblr.

    And frankly, would you want to have kids if you were surrounded by teenagers, knowing your kids would grow into them?
  • Someone pointed out that no-one can take anonymous hate messages seriously with those shades, and for that reason, I approve. Plus, it reminds me of Dave Strider's Stiller shades, which always makes me smile.

    Odradek said:

    Kexruct said:

    I've said it before and I'll say it again; if everyone on Tumblr who said they would never had kids actually never had kids, we wouldn't have a sustainable population.


    Teenagers can be so myopic.
    I dunno man, I'd think population problems would be better. There are a LOT of people.

  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I'm tempted to change my blog's default font for posts to Roboto but leave the other bits (the sidebar, the timestamps, etc.) in Open Sans.

    Do those two go together, you think?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    Anonus might think this is silly, but...for some reason I don't feel like a humanist sans fits my posts all that well.
  • I've learned to tolerate drama...except on the boat
    Why? Too "mainstream" or something?
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I dunno about "mainstream", but it...I dunno, looks too friendly or something?
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    What are fonts you two would consider "unfriendly" but pretty?
  • i hated asuka way more than shinji when I watched nge originally
  • So, cookie game is currently trending.

    It's already gotten annoying, but not as annoying as mocking lifehacks, so yaaaay???
  • Matter'a'fact, just read a post analyzing the Skinner box nature of it.

    And I'm just like 'man, I know it's a Skinner box. I just want to see what happens when it ends'.
  • i currently have 18,419,275 cookies



    increasing at 38,341.6 cookies per second
  • Seriously, at least the cookie game has an implied end in the form of the cookieverse upgrade

    Unlike MMORPGs or whatever Zynga's producing these days, which take out that ending and run the Skinner Box forever.
  • How are you even doing that

    I'm still below a thousand cps.

    That's cookies per second. That's a thing now. I'm writing it down in the double secret constitution.
  • edited 2013-08-16 01:12:45

    133t 5k1llz
  • cookie clicker < cow clicker
  • The sadness will last forever.
    i love the cookie clicker thing :D
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    spinor said:

    i hated asuka way more than shinji when I watched nge originally


  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    What I have seen of End of Evangelion seems to indicate that while Asuka is a huge bitch, Shinji is ultimately a far worse person... in that continuity. It's a duality thing.

    *...*

    I just had a terrible idea and most of you probably know exactly what it is.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Shinji was a pretty fucked-up kid before Eva even started, and by the end of the series, he's even more messed up. I find it rather hard to pass judgement on him.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Not that Asuka doesn't have some form of explanation for how she acts as well, she's just sorta a bitch about the whole thing.
  • edited 2013-08-16 02:58:12
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Fair enough, but Asuka is no less severely messed up, and while she initially handles this in a worse way, Shinji's final choice is far more spiteful.

    (Ninjutsu!)
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Shinji's final act is steeped in symbolism and like some sort of crazy relationship metaphor symbolized via choking. 

    I don't even know how to assign moral judgement on that. 
  • edited 2013-08-16 03:16:19
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Well, he basically chose to revive the human race because he wanted people to suffer like him and strangled the girl that he lusted after for her calling him out on treating her like an object. That's... pretty horrible. Maybe not "evil" in the sense that he is too far off the deep end to even know what he's doing, but certainly horrible.
  • Is that why he did it?  I can't even remember what actually happened in End beyond the famous bit about Tang.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Sredni Vashtar said:Well, he basically chose to revive the human race because he wanted people to suffer like him and strangled the girl that he lusted after for her calling him out on treating her like an object. That's... pretty horrible. Maybe not "evil" in the sense that he is too far off the deep end to even know what he's doing, but certainly horrible.

    That's a pretty
    bleak interpretation of the end. Maybe not an unreasonable one, though. Supplementary material tends to offer a slightly more optimistic viewpoint, that Shinji's desire is to simply live with others again despite the likelihood that he will hurt and be hurt by them. His final act (in the film, as he dosen't ACTULLY kill her) against Asuka is basically a confirm of that existence.

    I always felt that Eva feels more complete if one watches the movie followed by episodes 25 and 26. 26 offers a bit more satisfying ending to me, and also better explains Shinji's development by the end of the series. As opposed to the ambiguous, angst filled end that is the movie.
  • Not a hybrid rabbit-skink spirit
    For what it's worth, I interpreted End of Eva along the same lines as Justice. Shinji's pretty fucked up, but not that fucked up, if you ask me.
  • edited 2013-08-16 14:36:42
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Justice42 said:

    I always felt that Eva feels more complete if one watches the movie followed by episodes 25 and 26. 26 offers a bit more satisfying ending to me, and also better explains Shinji's development by the end of the series. As opposed to the ambiguous, angst filled end that is the movie.
    But that is assuming that the two are in the same continuity, which seems pretty unlikely. More interesting that they are two choices: If Shinji self-actualises and redeems himself, the series ending is the true ending; if Shinji refuses to become a better person, then the film is what happens. The first is a culmination, the second is a dead end.

    I have also heard that each dub of the film offers a slightly different take on the matter purely through how the lines are delivered, but that's another matter.
  • edited 2013-08-16 14:59:02
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Well, I know the director has basically intentionally left things up to people to decide, but I never felt that 25 and 26 where somehow an "alternative ending". Given they're mostly internal, mental debates and not really reliant on external events.

    I've also never really thought of the ending of the film as Shinji succumbing to misanthropy, chocking up most his behavior to the fact that he just spent the last year having his dingy life being built up to something worthwhile only to have pretty much every single positive aspect of that life brutally and completely destroyed, sometimes via him being forced to participate.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Well, it is not so much succumbing to misanthropy as wanting others to have the capacity to feel the pain that he is feeling, which is less misanthropic than childish and insane. Which, given what you have explained, is not a particularly surprising turn: When life kicks the tar out of you, certain choices present themselves. End of Evangelion is someone taking the dark path.
  • edited 2013-08-16 15:14:00
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    I never really thought the Human Instrumentality was necessarily such the awesome thing it was sort of pitched as by the people who had already convinced themselves it was great. I mean, it's a different form of existence, sure, but really a better one? 

    Also, looking at supplemental materiel, it looks like Shinji is more giving the option to people to leave Instrumentality, not necessarily force it on them.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Hmmm. I was looking less at the supplemental material and more at what I knew about the work and the circumstances surrounding the work. Also, this very interesting analysis of EoE, which of the many exegeses on the subject convinced me to give the franchise a proper look in the first place.
  • edited 2013-08-16 15:29:23
    READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    It's oddly fitting that the a movie that takes so much material from religious sources is so dense that it requires commentary from outside sources to really understand what's going on at times.
  • edited 2013-08-16 15:37:51
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Ultimately, isn't the dense religious symbolism just yet another part of the self-actualisation metaphor? The Disciples/Angels are named after angels that preside over particular virtues or ideals, Instrumentality ties into the notion of the collective unconscious, the duality of Shinji's final choices aligns both with the Sephiroth and its inversion in the Qabbalah and the differing base responses to threat as catalysts for dramatic psychological change... and so on.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    ...goddamnit, I need to stop talking and go watch this stupid thing.

    But I'm watching Trigun now.

    *shrug*
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    Trigun is good.

    And also has symbolism.

    Not nearly as much, of course...That's kinda impossible at this point. 

    Was going to mention the symbolism works on a few other levels as well. Usually when the Sephirot shows up, characters placement inside it is important.

    Also, there's other aspects, like the Sachiel's cross explosions occasionally being inverted possibly as a sign that mankind is having it's sins returned. 
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I would argue that Utena might be more dense symbolically, albeit in a less obvious way, given that literally everything in that show means more than one thing.
  • READ MY CROSS SHIPPING-FANFICTION, DAMMIT!

    i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
    The cars represent the audiences sense of of comprehension leaving them and driving off to parts unknown.
  • edited 2013-08-16 16:16:33
    (flower path)
    Utena turned into a car because Kunihiko Ikuhara wanted to turn a cute girl into a car.

    Man, I wonder if there's any new news on Yuri Bear Storm.
  • edited 2013-08-16 16:18:28
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    ^^ Part of the reason why I love it so far is that it manages to be extremely symbolically dense while retaining coherence and a good sense of humour. It draws both comedy and drama from its surreality; I really appreciate that.
  • Yooooooo could we ease up on the NGE spoilers on a completely unrelated thread please?
  • edited 2013-08-16 16:41:39
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    I never watched it and I know the ending anyway because it's like a 20 year old anime. Kind of like Portal, or Final Fantasy VII, or Citizen Kane, or Psycho! :D
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Same as Miko... sort of, kind of.

    Plus, we moved on to talking about Revolutionary Girl Utena anyway.
  • Well, still. I want to watch it unspoiled. I don't care how old it is, and twenty years isn't even that old.
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    That doesn't make them any less annoying, Miko. I might know how Psycho works and things go, but that doesn't mean I want to read everything about it before watching it myself. And I might know about the memetic spoiler for Citizen Kane, but that doesn't mean I want all of what goes on in-between spoiled for myself either. I've been meaning to rewatch the series (whoops) since I've basically forgotten a fair amount of it, thankfully, and it is kind of annoying. At least if they were tagged I could ignore it more easily.
  • edited 2013-08-16 16:46:58
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    ^^ That show is older than you are, by years. But that is a fair request.
  • edited 2013-08-16 16:48:54

    ^^ That show is older than you are, by years.

    I'm not exactly ancient, y'know. I barely qualify as antiquated, or even out of date for that matter.
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