Talkin about Tumblrs, man

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  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Cats are good, and so are gifs. Tumblr is really good at combining the two.
  • The sadness will last forever.
    cat gifs :)
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    We talk about tumblr like it's a faceless, homogenous content machine but really it is a bunch of different people and we are all grains in its sand-bucket, yes? :p
  • Miko said:

    We talk about tumblr like it's a faceless, homogenous content machine but really it is a bunch of different people and we are all grains in its sand-bucket, yes? :p

    This is a truth.
    Crystal said:

    Cats are good, and so are gifs. Tumblr is really good at combining the two.

    much of the internet is, really.
  • Average tumblr age is probably in the late teens. No younger that sixteen, at the very least.

    Very untrue. Who do you think are the ones pseudo-analyzing children's movies?
  • edited 2013-08-03 22:56:17
    Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Agreed with you on both counts.

    Well, Kex, I don't think the intended age range of children's movies (if that's what you mean) has anything to do with it. You can do anything poorly at any age.
  • edited 2013-08-03 22:56:31
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Very untrue. Who do you think are the ones pseudo-analyzing children's movies?
    A stoned college student decides to play a VHS tape while logged into tumblr. Riddle solved. :)
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Plus children's stuff isn't exactly unpopular there, to my understanding. You could find teens and people fresh out of college reviewing, I don't know, My Little Pony.
  • Miko said:

    We talk about tumblr like it's a faceless, homogenous content machine but really it is a bunch of different people and we are all grains in its sand-bucket, yes? :p

    How many times are people going to say this? Like, come on, is it really that difficult to figure out that when I say Tumblr I mean whatever group on Tumblr we're discussing at the moment and rather than describing what group I'm talking about with every single post sometimes it's easier to just say "Tumblr?"

    Like, for fuck's sake, rather than correct me *every single time I do that* why don't you focus on the actual point I'm trying to make?
  • Crystal is right. As Odradek has shown to us on many occasions, schooling and age does not always correlate with maturity and cohesive analysis.
  • Kexruct said:

    Miko said:

    We talk about tumblr like it's a faceless, homogenous content machine but really it is a bunch of different people and we are all grains in its sand-bucket, yes? :p

    How many times are people going to say this? Like, come on, is it really that difficult to figure out that when I say Tumblr I mean whatever group on Tumblr we're discussing at the moment and rather than describing what group I'm talking about with every single post sometimes it's easier to just say "Tumblr?"

    Like, for fuck's sake, rather than correct me *every single time I do that* why don't you focus on the actual point I'm trying to make?
    You really need to realize that unless people are quoting to you they are not necessarily addressing you solely and directly.

    You should also really calm down, we are ultimately discussing nothing important.
  • Crystal said:

    Agreed with you on both counts.


    Well, Kex, I don't think the intended age range of children's movies (if that's what you mean) has anything to do with it. You can do anything poorly at any age.
    You *can*, and I don't doubt it has happened, but in my experience the fandoms of movies like Rise of the Guardians or Monsters University tend to be dominated by younger teenagers.
  • I'm pretty sure the Monsters U fandom is just that blog with blurry pictures of Mike.

    that awesome blog with blurry pictures of Mike, I might add.
  • edited 2013-08-03 23:06:10
    Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    You *can*, and I don't doubt it has happened, but in my experience the fandoms of movies like Rise of the Guardians or Monsters University tend to be dominated by younger teenagers.

    True. Though, I don't expect good analyses from younger teenagers anyway. Or, anyone at first glance, really.
  • Crystal said:

    You *can*, and I don't doubt it has happened, but in my experience the fandoms of movies like Rise of the Guardians or Monsters University tend to be dominated by younger teenagers.

    True. Though, I don't expect good analyses from younger teenagers anyway. Or, anyone at first glance, really.
    Which is why I think it's ridiculous to act smug and superior about it. Every teenager goes through a faux intellectual phase.

  • Why are we discussing this, though? Isn't the discussion about JK Rowling more interesting and one, I might add, we haven't had a million times before?
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Fair points.
  • Not really.

    I mean, I don't have any interest in J.K. Rowling as a person and I couldn't tell you how long it's been since I was last interested in Harry Potter at all.

    The discussion only came up because Naney posted this thing, which is a great example of what I'm talking about.
  • Mo' said:

    I'm pretty sure the Monsters U fandom is just that blog with blurry pictures of Mike.

    that awesome blog with blurry pictures of Mike, I might add.

    there seemed to be quite a few monsters u fans on my dash before the movie came out


    i assumed that the movie was awful
  • edited 2013-08-03 23:13:13
    Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Odradek posted the link.

    I've heard good things about Monsters University, probably not bad.
  • I didn't see it but Blurry Pictures of Mike Wazowski is the best blog on tumblr.
  • The consensus on the movie was 'good but unnecessary', iirc.

    And honestly, I'm up for a discussion about racism in fantasy universes vs. RL racism.

    Like the anti-Dunmer sentiment in that one city in Skyrim, what's up with that?
  • I've never understood why dwarves and elves always hate each other.

    If they are typical dwarves and elves (and they always are), they seem to me unlikely to even be in contact.
  • i think the dunmer and the nords have always had a sort of animosity, for whatever reason

    basically every race in the elder scrolls hates each other
  • Mo' said:

    I've never understood why dwarves and elves always hate each other.

    If they are typical dwarves and elves (and they always are), they seem to me unlikely to even be in contact.

    it's just another thing from lotr that has become a convention of the genre
  • Yeah but I've always felt that "because LOTR did it" is a dumb reason for a fantasy convention to exist.
  • it is

    which is why i will automatically like any fantasy setting that is not just lotr with the numbers filed off
  • Mo' said:

    Not really.

    I mean, I don't have any interest in J.K. Rowling as a person and I couldn't tell you how long it's been since I was last interested in Harry Potter at all.

    The discussion only came up because Naney posted this thing, which is a great example of what I'm talking about.


    How is that at all an example?

    Note: Before you answer that, actually read the damned books before just assuming it's "lol stupid kids and their stupid pseudo-analyses."
  • I have read the books. Most of them at any rate.

    I don't honestly understand why you're so upset. I am mildly annoyed by a trend of tumblr users seemingly needing to claim everything they liked as a child is somehow a social wonderworker, and that is all.
  • I have read all of the books except the last one
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Read it.
  • Crystal said:

    Read it.


    why?
  • Because it's actually quite bothersome to see someone act condescending and smug about a work they're not particularly invested in, just because someone had the gall to assume that a reasonably good author might have included a moral in a major character's arc.
  • Man if you think I'm being smug you've never seen me being smug before.

    Anyway, I was just using that as an example of a general trend. Even if that particular person is right (which I find unlikely but w/e), there's simply no way everyone who says things like that is. Especially if the thing they're praising is like, Ed Edd N Eddy (which, reminder, is one of my favorite shows ever).
  • Munch munch, chomp chomp...
    Closure and there's more to talk about when it's brought up. I wasn't too serious with that comment, anyway, mind.
  • edited 2013-08-03 23:58:30
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    What is going on in here? :o Like, if we were at a real life picnic talking about this would we be more calm?
  • I'm perfectly calm.

    Also I hate picnics, so if anything I'd be more irritated.
  • One, if you want to criticize a trend, criticize the trend. Don't just laugh when you see something that you feel is part of the trend.

    Two, aside from arbitrary skepticism, what makes you doubt that the post was right?
  • edited 2013-08-04 00:00:31
    More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    ^^ Even if the picnic had your favorite food? :o
  • Picnics are gay
  • More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
    Hey I like picnics! >:/ Picnics are awesome.
  • Miko said:

    ^^ Even if the picnic had your favorite food? :o

    Pizza gets gross outdoors, man.
    Kexruct said:

    One, if you want to criticize a trend, criticize the trend.

    That is precisely what I'm doing.
    Kexruct said:

    Don't just laugh when you see something that you feel is part of the trend.

    I feel that you are quite likely reading a malice into my posts that is not there.
    Kexruct said:

     Two, aside from arbitrary skepticism, what makes you doubt that the post was right?

    Skepticism of the non-arbitrary variety.
  • But *why*?

    When has JK Rowling demonstrated to you an inability to convey a moral?

    Because if you can't provide a reason, yes, it's completely arbitrary even if you say it isn't.
  • Kexruct said:

    But *why*?

    When has JK Rowling demonstrated to you an inability to convey a moral?

    Because if you can't provide a reason, yes, it's completely arbitrary even if you say it isn't.

    I am not questioning Rowling's ability to convey a moral.
  • Mo' said:


    Kexruct said:

    Mo' said:

    socially progressive masterpiece Harry Potter

    You know, just because Tumblr is overzealous doesn't mean they're always wrong when they notice a progressive moral in a work.
    It is not so much that they are wrong, more that they seem incapable of grasping the concept of "reading into" something, and thus assume that anything they see is there by authorial intent and that alone.
    Well, if something can be racist/etc without the intent of the author, surely something can be progressive without authorial intent.
  • I just don't understand why it's out of the question to consider that maybe it was her intent.
  • Kexruct said:

    I just don't understand why it's out of the question to consider that maybe it was her intent.

    It's not out of the question. It's just that you think she would have mentioned something about it in the various interviews that she did. Authorial intent is difficult to point to unless you have the author's out-of-story words to point to.

    In other words, the theme of prejudice in Ron's story improves the story and universe of the Potter series, but we cannot say for certain that Rowling intended it to correlate to real-life prejudice. Rowling's certainly responsible for it, and it's possible that she did everything that the post said she did intentionally (and some of it was definitely intentional), but she could have been trying to teach a completely different moral with some of those actions. We just don't know, and we won't know until we break into Rowling's apartment and demand that she tells us her secrets. And Operation Muggle Storm can't be implemented until 2015, so we have a while to wait.
  • Oh, yeah, for the record, Operation Muggle Storm doesn't exist, and anyone claiming otherwise who isn't registered in Government Organization              will be hunted down like dogs and shot.
  • You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
    I'm soooo tempted to make a "/royalorder" page on my blog in which I link to my friends' blogs with their pseudo-monarchy titles I've given them

    But I have no idea if they'd be ok with that

    I guess I could ask them...
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