More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
I have 48 followers; maybe when I reach 50 I will do a giveaway where I sell my soul, but for free. oh wait I have no soul :/ I don't even want a lot of followers because my blog is lame :p
Those two things kind of go hand in hand, though, don't they?
not really.
Perhaps I mis-phrased.
Let me put it this way; as a bisexual I find it pretty stupid that I can basically never let any of my friends be aware that I am or else they might think I'm some sort of creeper that's crushing on them. They (assuming they are straight which is not an assumption I am actually making, but for the sake of argument) will never have to worry about this.
I still like my friends, but I really don't like that I have to worry about something that they don't. I don't think it makes me a better or more moral person than them though.
Kexruct I think the problem may be that you follow a handful of really freakin' weird people.
If what you've said before about your tumblr friends is to be believed (and I have no reason to believe that it's not to be), they're not exactly the most average group of people.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
I think perhaps you are equating people disliking the privileged with thinking that they're better than them.
What's the point of that, though? There's nothing wrong with disliking the fact that you have problems that other people don't. There's also nothing wrong with disliking bigots. But disliking everyone who doesn't face those problems personally as if they're all bigots won't help anything, especially since they didn't choose the traits that lead to their privileges, just like you didn't choose the traits that led to your lack of privilege.
I'll take one of my own traits as an example. Being autistic, I face a number of problems in my life that non-autistics will never have to worry about. But I don't hate all non-autistic people because of that. Quite frankly, that would be incredibly closed-minded and selfish of me.
I'll be perfectly honest, I'm starting to worry about you guys. It seems like this forum is slowly becoming more like the Tumblr social justice community, and that place is incredibly toxic. I don't want to see us turn out that way.
I think perhaps you are equating people disliking the privileged with thinking that they're better than them.
What's the point of that, though? There's nothing wrong with disliking the fact that you have problems that other people don't. There's also nothing wrong with disliking bigots. But disliking everyone who doesn't face those problems personally as if they're all bigots won't help anything, especially since they didn't choose the traits that lead to their privileges, just like you didn't choose the traits that led to your lack of privilege.
I'll take one of my own traits as an example. Being autistic, I face a number of problems in my life that non-autistics will never have to worry about. But I don't hate all non-autistic people because of that. Quite frankly, that would be incredibly closed-minded and selfish of me.
I'll be perfectly honest, I'm starting to worry about you guys. It seems like this forum is slowly becoming more like the Tumblr social justice community, and that place is incredibly toxic. I don't want to see us turn out that way.
Those two things kind of go hand in hand, though, don't they?
not really.
Perhaps I mis-phrased.
Let me put it this way; as a bisexual I find it pretty stupid that I can basically never let any of my friends be aware that I am or else they might think I'm some sort of creeper that's crushing on them. They (assuming they are straight which is not an assumption I am actually making, but for the sake of argument) will never have to worry about this.
I still like my friends, but I really don't like that I have to worry about something that they don't. I don't think it makes me a better or more moral person than them though.
calling it a typo would be wrong since that implies a mere misspelling but that's not really what I meant to convey.
Personally, I'm starting to worry about you. You're going on these rants more often and are set off by lesser and lesser things. Is something going on?
I don't think anyone ever said disliking the privileged was acceptable, though.
This.
Also saying "the privileged" doesn't seem right to me, because that implies that there are people entirely without privilege and that privilege is something that separates people into distinct categories.
I'll be perfectly honest, I'm starting to worry about you guys. It seems like this forum is slowly becoming more like the Tumblr social justice community, and that place is incredibly toxic. I don't want to see us turn out that way.
To be perfectly honest, I think that you are the person who is changing while the rest of us have stayed pretty much the same...
On a related note, does anybody here remember that whole "privilege points" thing that was supposed to satirize the way people treat privilege as a unified cumulative scale and there were all those people taking it seriously?
Vaguely. I remember we were talking about it with Corporal Forsythe when he was still here.
re my opinions changing: A little I guess? I've become more accepting of "privilege" as a term but other than that I can't really say I feel my opinions on actual social progressivism have changed much. I find SJ bloggers less inherently annoying than I used to but am simultaneously more annoyed by the extremist ones.
I'm also kinda annoyed at how people reblog contradictory stuff all the time. Are you bothered by "all men are pigs" jokes or not? Make up your mind.
I've gotten a tad more religious too but that's really neither here nor there in this situation.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
Those two things kind of go hand in hand, though, don't they?
not really.
Perhaps I mis-phrased.
Let me put it this way; as a bisexual I find it pretty stupid that I can basically never let any of my friends be aware that I am or else they might think I'm some sort of creeper that's crushing on them. They (assuming they are straight which is not an assumption I am actually making, but for the sake of argument) will never have to worry about this.
I still like my friends, but I really don't like that I have to worry about something that they don't. I don't think it makes me a better or more moral person than them though.
calling it a typo would be wrong since that implies a mere misspelling but that's not really what I meant to convey.
Personally, I'm starting to worry about you. You're going on these rants more often and are set off by lesser and lesser things. Is something going on?
Hmm. I'll admit, I kinda missed that part. I apologize.
And it's true that I haven't been feeling all that well lately, and I can't say that's not contributing to my frustration at this particular subject. But that's not really the point of this thread, so I shouldn't go on about that.
And it's true that I haven't been feeling all that well lately, and I can't say that's not contributing to my frustration at this particular subject. But that's not really the point of this thread, so I shouldn't go on about that.
well man if you need to talk let me know. I'm usually here on at least a passive basis.
if it makes you feel better it's not like the people you're mad about don't exist. I see them from time to time, just not a lot of them.
This is also a good point, and one I do not disagree with.
Yeah. It's kind of why I don't like going "lol straight people" whenever something fucktarded happens to other LGBT peeps. It's just not a good way to fight oppression and it makes you look like a tool. I understand it's mostly done out of frustration, but it's still upsetting.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
And it's true that I haven't been feeling all that well lately, and I can't say that's not contributing to my frustration at this particular subject. But that's not really the point of this thread, so I shouldn't go on about that.
well man if you need to talk let me know. I'm usually here on at least a passive basis.
if it makes you feel better it's not like the people you're mad about don't exist. I see them from time to time, just not a lot of them.
Thanks for the offer. I really appreciate it.
For what it's worth, I regularly read a lot of Tumblrs that deal with social justice but aren't really part of the Tumblr social justice community. I find they often have valid and insightful things to say.
I have never found a particularly solid social justice community to really exist. SJers seem content to argue amongst themselves for the most part. Sometimes about important things and other times about whether or not My Little Pony humanizations are problematic.
On a related note, does anybody here remember that whole "privilege points" thing that was supposed to satirize the way people treat privilege as a unified cumulative scale and there were all those people taking it seriously?
I don't think I ever saw that. Do you have a link?
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I would be genuinely surprised if anyone ever said aloud anything to the effect of "being oppressed is good".
Sounds like some kind of Calvin's Dad crossed with reverse-Nazism ideology.
not really.
Perhaps I mis-phrased.
Let me put it this way; as a bisexual I find it pretty stupid that I can basically never let any of my friends be aware that I am or else they might think I'm some sort of creeper that's crushing on them. They (assuming they are straight which is not an assumption I am actually making, but for the sake of argument) will never have to worry about this.
I still like my friends, but I really don't like that I have to worry about something that they don't. I don't think it makes me a better or more moral person than them though.
Kexruct I think the problem may be that you follow a handful of really freakin' weird people.
If what you've said before about your tumblr friends is to be believed (and I have no reason to believe that it's not to be), they're not exactly the most average group of people.
calling it a typo would be wrong since that implies a mere misspelling but that's not really what I meant to convey.
Personally, I'm starting to worry about you. You're going on these rants more often and are set off by lesser and lesser things. Is something going on?
realistically speaking most people have some kind of privilege yes.
And of course separating people into categories is basically the root of every -ist and -ism that exists. So you're very right.
Vaguely. I remember we were talking about it with Corporal Forsythe when he was still here.
re my opinions changing: A little I guess? I've become more accepting of "privilege" as a term but other than that I can't really say I feel my opinions on actual social progressivism have changed much. I find SJ bloggers less inherently annoying than I used to but am simultaneously more annoyed by the extremist ones.
I'm also kinda annoyed at how people reblog contradictory stuff all the time. Are you bothered by "all men are pigs" jokes or not? Make up your mind.
I've gotten a tad more religious too but that's really neither here nor there in this situation.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
it was initially satire but some peeps started taking it serious.
I think one of them was that one SJW that got exposed as a troll, so quite possibly not even that many.
well man if you need to talk let me know. I'm usually here on at least a passive basis.
if it makes you feel better it's not like the people you're mad about don't exist. I see them from time to time, just not a lot of them.
Yeah. It's kind of why I don't like going "lol straight people" whenever something fucktarded happens to other LGBT peeps. It's just not a good way to fight oppression and it makes you look like a tool. I understand it's mostly done out of frustration, but it's still upsetting.
I don't think I ever saw that. Do you have a link?
I never said that I say that about things.
relatedly, your-fave-is-problematic is possibly my least favorite tumblr and I would not be shocked if it were exposed as a troll
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
thus sayeth the LORD thy god