Just as any good comic should be mindful of the ramifications of words while mining dark territory for jokes, good protestors also have responsibilities.
A quote from Gladstone of Cracked. This is at the tail end of a holistic, if not particularly funny, article about rape jokes (tl;dr: one standard for all jokes involving rape is inefficient, the discussion should include all jokes that may be offensive or harmful, and the average audience will reject offensive jokes and send the message that they're not okay)
I think it sums up my thoughts on Social Justice in general. If you're going to be arguing against something, you have to make sure that what you're saying is sufficiently thought-out. You need examples; you need reasoning; you need a complete analysis of the situation. An argument based on reasoning will keep you focused and on the straight/narrow, while arguments based on emotion or status will get mired in feelings.
I would say whining isn't the right word, usually the users tend to rather mature even though most of the time they are satire.
Speaking as someone who regularly posts there, there's a bit of an echo chamber effect. Once I pointed out that a user accidentally posted a satire post and got downvoted because of it.
That being said, it's nowhere near the "worst subreddit", what with r/atheism and r/niggers around. It reminds me of early IJBM 2.0, actually.
I think it sums up my thoughts on Social Justice in general. If you're going to be arguing against something, you have to make sure that what you're saying is sufficiently thought-out. You need examples; you need reasoning; you need a complete analysis of the situation. An argument based on reasoning will keep you focused and on the straight/narrow, while arguments based on emotion or status will get mired in feelings.
More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
Social justice defeats itself. It is sad. For the rest of history, women have to stay in the kitchen and black people can't have jobs and boys can't hold hands in public and there are no ramps for people with wheel chairs. It will match naïve retro-futuristic visions.
Social justice defeats itself. It is sad. For the rest of history, women have to stay in the kitchen and black people can't have jobs and boys can't hold hands in public and there are no ramps for people with wheel chairs. It will match naïve retro-futuristic visions.
Somehow I doubt bad tumblr arguments are going to result in some sort of "white cis hetero male power fantasy".
For that is the realm of fictional book series and fictional video games based on said fictional book series.
(tw for some heterosexist language, this is not how i would word this): “Turing began a relationship with Joan Clarke, a very intelligent young woman who was a member of the code breaking labor force. Turing had remained a closet homosexual to this point, but he found a certain irresistible companionship in Joan. They went on frequent walks and had conversations on everything from botany to mathematics. Their relationship blossomed into a sort of fraternal love, and Turing went so far as to ask her to marry him. Once she accepted, Alan explained his homosexual tendencies to her, but she was undeterred. However, once he explained that he had acted upon them in the past, she struggled to understand, and Alan broke off the engagement.”
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I see them from time to time but it's hard to tell because I pay little attention most of the time
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Yeah, see, at times it's almost hard to tell apart the sponsored posts from the other random crap people tend to reblog.
I'm sure this was intentional on the marketers' part.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
I just took an early morning stroll through tumblrland and saw nothing that I was sure was an advertisement and not, oh, say a tumblr user rebloging Taco Bell or Beyonetta 2 because they like those things. Maybe they toned down the animated gifts in the radar that kept distracting me like a Chihuahua on crystal myth.
oh, I’m sorry a few skulls got cracked and sensibilities offended WHILE WE BUILT THE FIRST WORLD.
Okay, so the fact that I’m not ashamed of my white heritage cost me 7 seven followers. Go ahead and hit my inbox, tell me why we’re such bad fucking people, but leave your race at the end so i can compare and contrast our contributions to society. Goddamn, and I’m not even that racist.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
On the one hand, the original post is patently ridiculous. Of course, it would be foolish to deny that European colonialism happened, but it certainly isn't the only atrocity committed in the history of humanity. The literal "black vs. white" mentality that a certain subset of Tumblr uses betrays ignorance about world history beyond an overly brief summary of what they were taught in school.
On the other hand, that response is completely out of line, and itself also betrays the ignorance of the poster. I think the reason why goes without saying.
okay, so the fact that I’m not ashamed of my white heritage cost me 7 seven followers. Go ahead and hit my inbox, tell me why we’re such bad fucking people, but leave your race at the end so i can compare and contrast our contributions to society. Goddamn, and I’m not even that racist.
someone needs to learn to take a joke and also how to not be a fuckface.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
Considering how a depressingly large number of people in the Tumblr social justice community are, I'm not convinced in the slightest that that's a joke.
It's accurate for anything in the last 300-500 years concerning European/American treatment of anybody who isn't white. And considering that history is rarely discussed in schools unless white people are involved (with the exception of Egypt) I can see why it would be easily adopted.
But yeah, it kind of ignores the large swaths of history where Europe was doing its own thing and most POC societies' greatest threats were, well, themselves. Aztecs, in particular, were pretty dangerous to each other before Cortes showed up and killed them all with deception and exquisite imported diseased.
^^ Ah, that's a joke. The tone would be different if there was a joke. And more swearing.
^ "I'm not racist, but--" yeah, that never leads to a good conversation.
More people have said that and been killed than there are thorium decay products.
I think it is more common on the internet for someone to precede or follow a racist statement with a statement that they are not racist. "I am not racist but... [racist thing]."
It's accurate for anything in the last 300-500 years concerning European/American treatment of anybody who isn't white. And considering that history is rarely discussed in schools unless white people are involved (with the exception of Egypt) I can see why it would be easily adopted.
But yeah, it kind of ignores the large swaths of history where Europe was doing its own thing and most POC societies' greatest threats were, well, themselves. Aztecs, in particular, were pretty dangerous to each other before Cortes showed up and killed them all with deception and exquisite imported diseased.
The Aztecs ruined the lives of plenty civilizations other than their own. The fact that these (eg. the Olmecs) are never discussed is a tragedy unto itself.
This is without getting into the question of what "white" even is, because that is a question. Not everyone from Europe is equally light-skinned, and even Eurocentric histories tend to focus predominantly on western europe (where people tend to be the lightest) and not so much the eastern, unless they're talking about Russia, which tends to get its incredibly complicated 1000+ year history condensed into a few paragraphs, with a token mention of Ivan the Terrible. Other Slavic, Balkan, etc. countries are lucky to get a mention.
Furthermore, there is this weird idea that people can be classified by race solely based on the region of the world they live in. When one thinks of a stereotypical American, they generally think of a middle aged white guy, even though that's not been a strictly typical American for a long time (for most of the continent's history, a typical American would be a member of one of a number of native nations, which relatedly, calling the native nations "tribes" is fucking absurd). Beyond that, there has always been a large degree of racial mixing throughout the world and throughout Eurasia especially. There are known to have been African populations in Britain in Roman times, and there were Slavs among Temujin's mongol armies.
I don't know where I'm going with this, it's just stuff that's bothered me for awhile.
Remember back in the 50s when they'd record like Elvis singing YOU AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG and then they'd turn the record over and reverse it and it was all NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP NYERP and people were all like, "That is actually the voice of Satan coming from that song."
It's accurate for anything in the last 300-500 years concerning European/American treatment of anybody who isn't white. And considering that history is rarely discussed in schools unless white people are involved (with the exception of Egypt) I can see why it would be easily adopted.
While I feel it should be pointed out that Japanese imperialism during the early 20th century is an exception to this rule, you do make a good point.
Mojave: I have seen some people who don't consider the Spanish, Italians, and Greeks to be white. What are your thoughts on that?
It's accurate for anything in the last 300-500 years concerning European/American treatment of anybody who isn't white. And considering that history is rarely discussed in schools unless white people are involved (with the exception of Egypt) I can see why it would be easily adopted.
While I feel it should be pointed out that Japanese imperialism during the early 20th century is an exception to this rule, you do make a good point.
Mojave: I have seen some people who don't consider the Spanish, Italians, and Greeks to be white. What are your thoughts on that?
it again boils down to the question of what "white" even is.
Spanish people in particular tend to have parts of their heritage come from the various Muslim nations that used to exist in the south of Spain, assuming their particular families have been there a long time of course. With Italians and Greeks I honestly wouldn't know. I know it's not uncommon for Greeks to have Turkish in them though.
I should note that this gross oversimplification applies to other races too. There's sort of an unfortunate tendency to think of Africa as a country rather than a continent, for instance.
I remember the Olmecs. They, the Nazcas and another people took up a good block of 9th grade World History. We actually spent most of that class going over Hinduism because of my teacher's affection for the religion. Never did figure out if she actually practiced it or not.
We had about one or two similarly multicultural teachers for every grade. It made up for the dumb decisions made by the school's largely-white administration.
I still find it amazing that America didn't consider most of Mediterranean Europe to be white until the 1950s.
I remember the Olmecs. They, the Nazcas and another people took up a good block of 9th grade World History.
That's kind of strange considering we know next to nothing about the Nazca.
If Olmecs get mentioned, it tends to be in the context of "The Aztecs conquered them". Because there could only be one notable civilization in central America, you see.
I meant that America essentially decided that Italians and Greeks were no longer to be considered as part of the 'other', as people like the Chinese or Indians are.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
Huh, I haven't seen the Purina one yet.
At least it's pretty blatant about being an ad? Not like the ones that try to pretend to be gifsets of some TV show.
Having known girls that talked exactly like that (and could probably laugh at themselves about it), I found the last comment hilarious. Just, the déjà-vu...
So apparently that one friend I have who is an otherkin has a boyfriend who identifies as a dog, a bat, a universe, oh and also apparently he's also a few Dangan Ronpa characters.
So apparently that one friend I have who is an otherkin has a boyfriend who identifies as a dog, a bat, a universe, oh and also apparently he's also a few Dangan Ronpa characters.
His about page reads like an elaborate parody.
ugh, I'm getting DLC flashbacks. Who wants to bet she turned Kirigiri's stoic detective badassery into ~wacky~ bullshit too!
So apparently that one friend I have who is an otherkin has a boyfriend who identifies as a dog, a bat, a universe, oh and also apparently he's also a few Dangan Ronpa characters.
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Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
I think it sums up my thoughts on Social Justice in general. If you're going to be arguing against something, you have to make sure that what you're saying is sufficiently thought-out. You need examples; you need reasoning; you need a complete analysis of the situation. An argument based on reasoning will keep you focused and on the straight/narrow, while arguments based on emotion or status will get mired in feelings.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
I'm starting to see sponsored posts more and more often and they're becoming more and more annoying.
Especially since fucking all of them seem to be for goddamn Purina.
i get so angry sometimes i just punch plankton --Klinotaxis
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
apocalypsepoet:
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
But yeah, it kind of ignores the large swaths of history where Europe was doing its own thing and most POC societies' greatest threats were, well, themselves. Aztecs, in particular, were pretty dangerous to each other before Cortes showed up and killed them all with deception and exquisite imported diseased.
^^ Ah, that's a joke. The tone would be different if there was a joke. And more swearing.
^ "I'm not racist, but--" yeah, that never leads to a good conversation.
The Aztecs ruined the lives of plenty civilizations other than their own. The fact that these (eg. the Olmecs) are never discussed is a tragedy unto itself.
This is without getting into the question of what "white" even is, because that is a question. Not everyone from Europe is equally light-skinned, and even Eurocentric histories tend to focus predominantly on western europe (where people tend to be the lightest) and not so much the eastern, unless they're talking about Russia, which tends to get its incredibly complicated 1000+ year history condensed into a few paragraphs, with a token mention of Ivan the Terrible. Other Slavic, Balkan, etc. countries are lucky to get a mention.
Furthermore, there is this weird idea that people can be classified by race solely based on the region of the world they live in. When one thinks of a stereotypical American, they generally think of a middle aged white guy, even though that's not been a strictly typical American for a long time (for most of the continent's history, a typical American would be a member of one of a number of native nations, which relatedly, calling the native nations "tribes" is fucking absurd). Beyond that, there has always been a large degree of racial mixing throughout the world and throughout Eurasia especially. There are known to have been African populations in Britain in Roman times, and there were Slavs among Temujin's mongol armies.
I don't know where I'm going with this, it's just stuff that's bothered me for awhile.
they didn't even go that far!it again boils down to the question of what "white" even is.
Spanish people in particular tend to have parts of their heritage come from the various Muslim nations that used to exist in the south of Spain, assuming their particular families have been there a long time of course. With Italians and Greeks I honestly wouldn't know. I know it's not uncommon for Greeks to have Turkish in them though.
I should note that this gross oversimplification applies to other races too. There's sort of an unfortunate tendency to think of Africa as a country rather than a continent, for instance.
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
We had about one or two similarly multicultural teachers for every grade. It made up for the dumb decisions made by the school's largely-white administration.
I still find it amazing that America didn't consider most of Mediterranean Europe to be white until the 1950s.
That's kind of strange considering we know next to nothing about the Nazca.
If Olmecs get mentioned, it tends to be in the context of "The Aztecs conquered them". Because there could only be one notable civilization in central America, you see.
This is what I mean by the question of what 'white' is.
I mean, most Mediterranean peoples, strictly speaking, tend to have a somewhat olivey complexion rather than the paleness you get farther north.
god DAMMIT Purina
Assassin poems, Poems that shoot
guns. Poems that wrestle cops into alleys
and take their weapons leaving them dead
runaeveena:
i don't know if i'm allowed to laugh at this but i did anywayperhaps, Kexruct
it is.