you're spewing unreadable attempts at generalities to defend maliciously lying about someone for no reason other than to make yourself feel better, as far as i can tell?
If you're accusing someone of being a pedophile you don't want to just keep that to yourself. Period. Tagged or not this person didn't NOT want the rumor to spread.
Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
Okay. It's one in the morning. I'm sleepy. I can try better.
A), it was not a good thing that happened to John Green. Nobody deserves that.
B), the thing we do is "malicious lying" in as much as me saying that I'm actually some kind of sea monster who kills hundreds of those who go by sea. Not the jokes about pedophilia or whatever, the jokes about this guy complaining about something and then website functions being removed. (the idea that I dislike the guy severely and the idea that he still didn't deserve the harassment are not mutually exclusive)
C), what I also want to know is why this matters to us and not other things. Is it because it's "our" community? If it was, why do we always refer to the community as "tumblr" and not "us" or "we"? Do we want to be attached, but also want to keep our distance, so we can shun it without trouble? This is not something I understand.
the thing we do is "malicious lying" in as much as me saying that I'm actually some kind of sea monster who kills hundreds of those who go by sea. Not the jokes about pedophilia or whatever, the jokes about this guy complaining about something and then website functions being removed. (the idea that I dislike the guy severely and the idea that he still didn't deserve the harassment are not mutually exclusive)
i don't care about the website complaints or whatever, which is why i'm referring to slander and so on,
though calling yourself something clearly impossible is obviously different from calling someone else something remotely plausible
what I also want to know is why this matters to us and not other things. Is it because it's "our" community? If it was, why do we always refer to the community as "tumblr" and not "us" or "we"? Do we want to be attached, but also want to keep our distance, so we can shun it without trouble? This is not something I understand.
baseless accusations of serious crimes with the intent of ostracization matter more than calling yourself a sea monster
it j ust makes me think of w hen i followed person and was exposed to a million jokes about praxis
that let me to read about gramsci and that was one of many moments forming my dislike of marxism
Is this about the prison censor?
eh? no. also sorry i missed this.
There's a common, possibly apocryphal story about how whenever Gramsci wanted to say "communism" in his writing, he would evade the fascist censors in his prison camp by writing "philosophy of praxis" instead.
Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
Like do Wikipedia users say; "I wish Wikipedia (community) wasn't like this?" When we were on TVT, did we refer to TVT in the "third person" or whatever?
What makes us use the thing but not want to be identified as being of the thing?
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
It's not okay to bully people, and Problematic (TM) artists have a right as any other to be called out (although callout culture in itself is, well, that's a subject unto itself); but harassment campaigns are a no-go in my book. That is my very controversial and sure to stir the pot viewpoint.
Part of my problem is that (many but not all) people speaking out on this seem to have an assumption that all social justice-related complaints are equally valid.
I reserve the right to differentiate between genuinely problematic things, like drawing a character of color as white, and asinine complaints like "you're racist because you drew a character's nose in a way I disapprove of."
people decided it was creepy that he was a grown man writing reassuring things for teen girls, so they decided they had a duty to 'warn' people that he was, therefore, probably a child molester
Which is really amazingly stupid because, like...most published authors are adults. It's like accusing Dr. Seuss of having a sexual fixation on kindergarteners because he liked to write for them. It makes no sense.
Like do Wikipedia users say; "I wish Wikipedia (community) wasn't like this?" When we were on TVT, did we refer to TVT in the "third person" or whatever?
What makes us use the thing but not want to be identified as being of the thing?
in my case i *don't* identify with tumblr, in the sense that tumblr is a site i visit occasionally, where i seldom post, whereas TVT was a site i visited daily and posted frequently
(and that didn't stop me feeling irritated with "tropers" from time to time)
It's like the difference between your hometown and a nearby bigger town that you visit sometimes.
Part of my problem is that (many but not all) people speaking out on this seem to have an assumption that all social justice-related complaints are equally valid.
I reserve the right to differentiate between genuinely problematic things, like drawing a character of color as white, and asinine complaints like "you're racist because you drew a character's nose in a way I disapprove of."
it j ust makes me think of w hen i followed person and was exposed to a million jokes about praxis
that let me to read about gramsci and that was one of many moments forming my dislike of marxism
Is this about the prison censor?
eh? no. also sorry i missed this.
There's a common, possibly apocryphal story about how whenever Gramsci wanted to say "communism" in his writing, he would evade the fascist censors in his prison camp by writing "philosophy of praxis" instead.
yeah, i remember. what i meant was i started reading some marxist philosophy and decided i didn't like it from there. everyone using "praxis" because of the censoring is silly, but not too substantial
It's not okay to bully people, and Problematic (TM) artists have a right as any other to be called out (although callout culture in itself is, well, that's a subject unto itself); but harassment campaigns are a no-go in my book. That is my very controversial and sure to stir the pot viewpoint.
Part of my problem is that (many but not all) people speaking out on this seem to have an assumption that all social justice-related complaints are equally valid.
I reserve the right to differentiate between genuinely problematic things, like drawing a character of color as white, and asinine complaints like "you're racist because you drew a character's nose in a way I disapprove of."
Aside from that, I totally agree with you.
Yeah, MBNA of the people I've seen from my brief viewing have acted like that, which I disagree with. I was speaking more personally, though, since I've read up on this precisely enough to get the gist and form an opinion, while knowing I don't want to read or seek out more on the matter in almost any capacity.
But ok, it's like the difference between your school, and your friend's school that you visited a few times
that's not such a good analogy, but maybe you see where i'm coming from?
I've been abroad, yeah, and I guess I couldn't call myself "someone from Shanghai" even if I lived there for a long time. Maybe if I lived there even longer.
And like...no. I don't really understand the school analogy either. I went to one school, and then I was homeschooled for the rest of my teenage years, and I didn't have friends either times.
They weren't talking about your personal headspace, but about Tumblr generally. Tumblr is not "the only town in the nation" by any means.
No, but I am a longtime user, so whenever you're speaking of them you're also speaking of me, and that's something I'm struggling with. That you can be submerged in something and be so involved with what it is without identifying as part of it.
and like i can accept that the staff overreacted and people are pissed off
but Green wasn't even the first person to get annoyed at the post editing thing
i distinctly remember Andrew Hussie complaining about it
tumblr users couldn't be trusted not to post edit to remove attribution from pictures. this is worse than john green or @staff being made to say LOLOLOL DISREGARD THIS I SUCK COCKS or whatever
This is a bit off-topic, but relates to something @Klinotaxis said: I actually find Gramsci one of the most sensible Marxists, even if some of his ideas are oddly articulated. For example, his "ideas in context" spiel has little to do with discrediting scientific thought and everything to do with discrediting the orthodox view of Marxism as an objective science, and I can totally get behind that. Also, the notion of political and civil society's mutual complicity in the propagation of cultural hegemony is something that you see literally every day.
A lot of times when I read the better Marxists my reaction is "Okay this guy isn't dumb, and he's learned interesting things from Marxism, but he needs to get over himself"
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
No, but I am a longtime user, so whenever you're speaking of them you're also speaking of me, and that's something I'm struggling with. That you can be submerged in something and be so involved with what it is without identifying as part of it.
I can only speak for myself, but I have a weird sort of compartmentalization thing going on.
When I'm actively using Tumblr, I'm effectively a stereotypical Tumblr user (if a bit older) and I call the community "us"/"we" and I've even called myself a "Tumblrina" because I think it would be hilarious to reclaim that term from Gamergate types.
But when I'm over here, Tumblr seems like kind of a separate thing, somehow.
A lot of times when I read the better Marxists my reaction is "Okay this guy isn't dumb, and he's learned interesting things from Marxism, but he needs to get over himself"
This is a bit off-topic, but relates to something @Klinotaxis said: I actually find Gramsci one of the most sensible Marxists, even if some of his ideas are oddly articulated. For example, his "ideas in context" spiel has little to do with discrediting scientific thought and everything to do with discrediting the orthodox view of Marxism as an objective science, and I can totally get behind that. Also, the notion of political and civil society's mutual complicity in the propagation of cultural hegemony is something that you see literally every day.
I did kinda like the " let's not just say historic inevitability constantly" things
This is a bit off-topic, but relates to something @Klinotaxis said: I actually find Gramsci one of the most sensible Marxists, even if some of his ideas are oddly articulated. For example, his "ideas in context" spiel has little to do with discrediting scientific thought and everything to do with discrediting the orthodox view of Marxism as an objective science, and I can totally get behind that. Also, the notion of political and civil society's mutual complicity in the propagation of cultural hegemony is something that you see literally every day.
I did kinda like the " let's not just say historic inevitability constantly" things
Yes.
Also steering the PCI away from Bordiga's bizarro contempt for "bourgeois democracy" and "pluralist soviets," which... I don't even know what I think of Bordiga. The left communists were for the most part about as crazy as Lenin made them out to be.
Bordiga identified 'dictatorship of the proletariat' and dictatorship of the party and argued that establishing its own dictatorship should be the party's immediate and direct aim.
Bordiga and Gramsci were the ones who led the Communist faction that seceded from the Italian Socialists. Bordiga was very much of the fringe Bolshevik mindset that things like the NEP were evil and that things like political freedom for dissenting viewpoints could only serve reactionary, "liberal," or otherwise ideological impure interests, and thus the dictatorship of the proletariat must reject bourgeois ideas about democracy. Conversely, however, he also considered Maoism and Stalinism to be the culmination of state capitalism and bourgeois personality worship. But that was after he'd long been shunted out of the party (while they were all in prison, no less) and Gramsci had died of pneumonia or whatever horrible thing was afflicting him.
Gramsci, on the other hand, was very big on Trotsky's ideas about democracy and propagating counter-hegemonic intelligentsia within classes and all that jazz which is way better aligned with my own ideas of how socialism should work but yeah.
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
New Xkit's adblocking extension is called "Anti-Capitalism" and that got a chuckle out of me
You are the end result of a “would you push the button” prompt where the prompt was “you have unlimited godlike powers but you appear to all and sundry to be an impetuous child” – Zero, 2022
I don't think I'll ever understand the "don't remove my caption" thing
Maybe it makes sense when the caption is an attribution or whatever, but then you get the posts where they only caption is "don't remove my caption" and it seems really weird?? reblogs of your post are going to have a source link whether your caption is there or not
I don't think I'll ever understand the "don't remove my caption" thing
Maybe it makes sense when the caption is an attribution or whatever, but then you get the posts where they only caption is "don't remove my caption" and it seems really weird?? reblogs of your post are going to have a source link whether your caption is there or not
Eh, the "source" link is pretty minimalized compared to the presence a caption has. Also, usually I think art with no comment (unless it's in the OP's tags as "my art" or something) was probably just taken from another website.
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though calling yourself something clearly impossible is obviously different from calling someone else something remotely plausible baseless accusations of serious crimes with the intent of ostracization matter more than calling yourself a sea monster
after what happened treating him like an acceptable target feels poor taste though
I reserve the right to differentiate between genuinely problematic things, like drawing a character of color as white, and asinine complaints like "you're racist because you drew a character's nose in a way I disapprove of."
Aside from that, I totally agree with you.
Which is really amazingly stupid because, like...most published authors are adults. It's like accusing Dr. Seuss of having a sexual fixation on kindergarteners because he liked to write for them. It makes no sense.
in my case i *don't* identify with tumblr, in the sense that tumblr is a site i visit occasionally, where i seldom post, whereas TVT was a site i visited daily and posted frequently
(and that didn't stop me feeling irritated with "tropers" from time to time)
It's like the difference between your hometown and a nearby bigger town that you visit sometimes.
totally agreed
But ok, it's like the difference between your school, and your friend's school that you visited a few times
that's not such a good analogy, but maybe you see where i'm coming from?
But it's not part of mine, so i don't identify with it in the same way. For me it's Shanghai.
When I'm actively using Tumblr, I'm effectively a stereotypical Tumblr user (if a bit older) and I call the community "us"/"we" and I've even called myself a "Tumblrina" because I think it would be hilarious to reclaim that term from Gamergate types.
But when I'm over here, Tumblr seems like kind of a separate thing, somehow.
Yes.
Also steering the PCI away from Bordiga's bizarro contempt for "bourgeois democracy" and "pluralist soviets," which... I don't even know what I think of Bordiga. The left communists were for the most part about as crazy as Lenin made them out to be.
(I do not know bordiga)
ok cool
Gramsci, on the other hand, was very big on Trotsky's ideas about democracy and propagating counter-hegemonic intelligentsia within classes and all that jazz which is way better aligned with my own ideas of how socialism should work but yeah.
people are complaining about this but good messaging is like the main thing I've wanted on the site for... years, shit