Talkin about Tumblrs, man

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  • kill living beings
    maybe i can just block all text posts

    text posts with more than, say, four nested replies

    i'll just whitelist koryos
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    What happened with John Green was that some kid said something in relative privacy, people paraded that statement around like it was proof, John Green's stupid friends started proclaiming it as cyber-bullying, and the situation escalated and now we no longer have certain people with us. Almost everyone involved acted badly.

    I also don't know what is wrong with the "Don't mistake me for a good person" statement. I say something to that effect every day.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Also, I can't get my comment extension to work.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    MachSpeed said:

    I also don't know what is wrong with the "Don't mistake me for a good person" statement. I say something to that effect every day.


    It's not a real excuse. And it's stupid when you say it, too.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    WELCOME TO MY TWISTED MIND
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    If i want someone to stop doing something i don't really care whether they're 'good' or not, if they don't stop doing the thing i'm still gonna be mad.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    No, it isn't an excuse. I say "I'm an asshole" as an acknowledgement of my own defense mechanisms, my own flaws, a prevailing part of my identity and how I function. It's not meant to excuse my bad actions, which are wrong, and are always wrong, even if because of my pride, I refuse to apologize or admit it.
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I wouldn't say it was a "both sides" thing, but I don't really care to argue that at this point.

    I'm also agreed with what Sredni said just now.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    MachSpeed said:

    No, it isn't an excuse. I say "I'm an asshole" as an acknowledgement of my own defense mechanisms, my own flaws, a prevailing part of my identity and how I function. It's not meant to excuse my bad actions, which are wrong, and are always wrong, even if because of my pride, I refuse to apologize or admit it.


    Then apologise! Admit you fucked up sometimes! It is way better for your health and mental well-being than just disliking yourself all the time, believe you me. I already don't like myself a lot of the time; if I didn't at least try to make up for it I would be fucked.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    Sometimes I refuse to apologize. Not all the time.

    I don't think being an asshole is absolutely a flaw, or something utterly deplorable, or morally wrong. I just think that as an asshole, I have a tendency to do the wrong thing.
  • kill living beings
    if you know you did another person wrong and you don't apologize, you're making the other person justifiably mad at you, for no reason but cowardice
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    I wouldn't necessarily call it being an asshole, just stubborn and belligerent. Which unchecked can make a person one, of course, but yeah.

    I dunno. There was a point somewhere here but it's way past us now.
  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    A coward is another thing that I am, yes.

    I guess we have different definitions of "asshole." That's okay.
  • edited 2015-11-02 05:17:22
    Is it me

    Or do DMAB and DFAB trans people largely occupy two separate social spheres on tumblr
  • Sup bitches, witches, Haters, and trolls.
    i get why you're saying it, but man, there's something a little uncomfortable about splitting that way
  • i guess when i see social circles which are mostly/entirely trans people they tend to skew strongly one way or the other
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    It is weirdly divided in some places, but in the outside world, trans* and queer communities tend to be way more mixed. Like, my best friend offline, who is genderqueer, was once in a kind of casual poly thing with a couple consisting of two trans* people of the opposite sex, and apparently that isn't terribly unusual in the circles he runs in.
  • Calica said:

    i get why you're saying it, but man, there's something a little uncomfortable about splitting that way

    That's... understandable really. Thanks for bringing it up.

    Really it's mostly that I really, really don't see many transwomen on Tumblr. I follow a lot of people and the full spectrum of trans identities is represented save for that one conspicuous absence.
  • really?

    i see like, next to no transmen, but i see plenty of transwomen
  • edited 2015-11-02 07:40:13
    “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Really? Half of the forum regulars here are transwomen.

    ^ Oh, the ninjutsu.
  • Well I am talking about Tumblr. The majority of people I follow aren't regulars here.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Still, I have to admit that I have run into fewer transmen than transwomen both online and in the wild. Although the first out trans* person at my school was a guy.

    Had I been aware of my own inclinations at that stage... we had a moment at the one and only GSA meeting I ever went to, and I totally should have asked him out, but I didn't.
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    Oh well. I waited, and that turned out great, so who am I to complain?
  • That might just be a.... hrm, I guess I'd call it a generational gap or something? Because there's definitely a perception on Tumblr that Tumblr has an inordinate focus on transmen and the masculine side of gender-nonconformity.
  • Kexruct said:

    That might just be a.... hrm, I guess I'd call it a generational gap or something? Because there's definitely a perception on Tumblr that Tumblr has an inordinate focus on transmen and the masculine side of gender-nonconformity.

    wow

    we really are like on opposite sides of tumblr or something cuz let me tell you everything i see is quiiiite the opposite
  • edited 2015-11-02 08:00:18
    Of the trans people I know in person at least four (I *think* five but I haven't talked to the fifth in a while) are transmen, two are agender, one is genderfluid, and one is a transwoman.
  • i guess that is the nature of chance
  • “I'm surprised. Those clothes… but, aren't you…?”
    That makes sense in the context of the gay community, perhaps, but society at large likes to pretend that transmen just plain old don't exist much of the time. Transwomen receive more obvious discrimination—although the violence is against both; look up Brandon Teena sometime—but transmale visibility is even lower.

    But I dunno. It's complicated and people should stop squabbling and picking on small fry and start tearing down the capitalist patriarchy outright. Although we kind of already are, in small ways? But it's a messy, dumb process.
  • I totally agree. The spheres which I move around in on Tumblr, however, consist largely of.. well, essentially everyone BUT transwomen and that's really damn odd to me.

    And I know it's not just me. The one space in Tumblr where I do see transwomen represented is radqueer circles, and I have seen a LOT or complaints about Tumblr's supposed focus on masculine trans people.

    I also see a lot of posts along the lines of "don't let Tumblr convince you that only masculine people are androgynous/nonbinary/etc., you can like dresses and makeup and stuff and still be androgynous/nonbinary/etc." with the implication that it's referring to (sorry to make this division but it's the only way I can think to state it) DFAB trans people.
  • Also scratch that I know two transwomen in person.
  • edited 2015-11-02 08:34:03

    Kexruct said:

    I totally agree. The spheres which I move around in on Tumblr, however, consist largely of.. well, essentially everyone BUT transwomen and that's really damn odd to me.

    And I know it's not just me. The one space in Tumblr where I do see transwomen represented is radqueer circles, and I have seen a LOT or complaints about Tumblr's supposed focus on masculine trans people.

    I also see a lot of posts along the lines of "don't let Tumblr convince you that only masculine people are androgynous/nonbinary/etc., you can like dresses and makeup and stuff and still be androgynous/nonbinary/etc." with the implication that it's referring to (sorry to make this division but it's the only way I can think to state it) DFAB trans people.

    and I see a lot of posts that say "dont let tumblr convince you that only feminine people can be androgynous/nonbinary/ect.", and i see a lot of complaints about how trans men are marginalized and forgotten about every time laverne cox/trans woman du jour does something noteworthy, and so on

    well at least i used to, ive unfollowed most blogs that reblog text posts on a regular basis and now my whole dashboard is

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  • and i gotta say i prefer it this way
  • of course that is not my whole dashboard there is also NSFW stuff and sometimes vines and music
  • but you get the idea
  • edited 2015-11-02 08:58:21
    I think it might just be a generational difference that happened really quickly because of Internet weirdness.

  • Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I think it might be a demographic thing.
  • iunno if it's generational, just a product of incidence

    i mean, you and i are like what, 2-3 years apart? that's hardly any time at all, and the group that im hanging with ranges from like a bit younger than you to like people in their 30s so
  • Kexruct said:

    that happened really quickly because of Internet weirdness.

  • naney said:

    the group that im hanging with ranges from like a bit younger than you to like people in their 30s so


  • And I'm saying this is a shift mostly occurring in the age range of like 13-19

    I mean I like go think I keep my ear to the ground when it comes to The Discourse, and by your own admission you find said Discourse on Tumblr really irritating
  • (For the record, no, I'm not following anyone who's 13. I just look at the OP of pretty much every post I reblog)
  • We can do anything if we do it together.
    I continue to aspire to a dashboard like Naney's.

    I think I'm close to it now. I just need to unfollow the last few people I still feel like I have to follow and find a few more blogs that post stuff that I like.
  • edited 2015-11-02 14:15:04
    Man is a most complex simple creature: see what he weaves, and how base his reasons for doing so.
    I don't follow blogs that don't post 100% of stuff I love, like, or don't mind.

    Also, I set the blacklist to not even show the posts in any form at all.
  • My dreams exceed my real life
    So who told Tumblr that it is impossible to condemn absurd harassment campaigns without saying it's never okay to criticize art on a political basis?

    Like, I don't think littering is good. If someone wanted to give the death penalty to litterers, I would oppose that. These two things are not opposed.
  • imagei will watch the heck outta this pumpkin patch
    internet arguments seem to incline towards extremes and absolutes

    idk why, nobody wants to be seen as backing down or insufficiently on side, i guess
  • Tachyon said:

    internet arguments seem to incline towards extremes and absolutes

    idk why, nobody wants to be seen as backing down or insufficiently on side, i guess


    I think it's more just, at least when it comes to tumblr and similar social networks, that the extremes are more likely to be reblogged because they aren't as complex, meaning they can be read and digested more quickly, and they are more likely to be reblogged (because reblogging is in large part a form of social signaling).

    So it's sort of Darwinian--the environment selects for more extreme viewpoints.
  • Haven said:


    Tachyon said:

    internet arguments seem to incline towards extremes and absolutes

    idk why, nobody wants to be seen as backing down or insufficiently on side, i guess


    I think it's more just, at least when it comes to tumblr and similar social networks, that the extremes are more likely to be reblogged because they aren't as complex, meaning they can be read and digested more quickly, and they are more likely to be reblogged (because reblogging is in large part a form of social signaling).

    So it's sort of Darwinian--the environment selects for more extreme viewpoints.
    MEMES
  • edited 2015-11-02 22:51:27
    My dreams exceed my real life
    Haven said:


    Tachyon said:

    internet arguments seem to incline towards extremes and absolutes

    idk why, nobody wants to be seen as backing down or insufficiently on side, i guess


    I think it's more just, at least when it comes to tumblr and similar social networks, that the extremes are more likely to be reblogged because they aren't as complex, meaning they can be read and digested more quickly, and they are more likely to be reblogged (because reblogging is in large part a form of social signaling).

    So it's sort of Darwinian--the environment selects for more extreme viewpoints.
    Make this dumber, pad it out to ten to twelve pages, and include random digs at feminists and uppity minorities, and you have a SlateStarCodex article on your hands.


    naney said:

    Haven said:


    Tachyon said:

    internet arguments seem to incline towards extremes and absolutes

    idk why, nobody wants to be seen as backing down or insufficiently on side, i guess


    I think it's more just, at least when it comes to tumblr and similar social networks, that the extremes are more likely to be reblogged because they aren't as complex, meaning they can be read and digested more quickly, and they are more likely to be reblogged (because reblogging is in large part a form of social signaling).

    So it's sort of Darwinian--the environment selects for more extreme viewpoints.
    MEMES
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  • tbf I totally am in agreement with haven't post
  • fuck autocorrect is killing me today
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